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Alan 08-21-2013 07:32 AM

The worst thing in the world
 
Self-described leftists who say they admire Hitler.

We need a new gulag.

Versus 08-21-2013 08:36 AM

At least they don't do shit.

Alan 08-21-2013 10:04 AM

Except piss me off.

Saya 08-21-2013 01:45 PM

Ever just back up sometimes, look at leftists, and think "this is why we can't have nice things?"

MissCheyenne 08-21-2013 03:20 PM

wait, people ACTUALLY admit to admiring Hitler?!?! It's bad enough to admire him but to publicly admit to it?! WTAF

Solumina 08-21-2013 05:07 PM

I know self described leftists who admire Stalin but not Hitler

BourbonBoy 08-21-2013 06:55 PM

Wait, what? How could anyone admire a man who led to the ruin of a continent and the deaths of millions?

ape descendant 08-21-2013 10:29 PM

Holy shit-balls, that's a thing?

Solumina 08-22-2013 01:38 AM

Yup it's a thing, people are terrible

Joker_in_the_Pack 09-21-2013 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solumina (Post 807080)
I know self described leftists who admire Stalin but not Hitler

It's because Hitler killed people next door. Stupid man.

Saya 09-21-2013 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joker_in_the_Pack (Post 807506)
It's because Hitler killed people next door. Stupid man.

I finally have a use for the Eddie Izzard "Hitler never played Risk as a kid" gif and I can't fucking imbed it because it can't be done in Whining.

HumanePain 09-21-2013 04:06 PM

I'm with Versus, there are worse things like Republicans who try for the forty-fuckin-first time to repeal ACA and waste more taxpayer dollars with these futile attempts than they purport to save by repealing the people's will.

They are doing real damage, the Hitler wanna-be's are just making noise. Now if they were Republicans we would have a contender...oh wait...



EDIT: Sorry, didn't mean to thread jack.

AshleyO 09-23-2013 02:01 PM

I don't hate Stalin. Someone give me a good reason why I should hate Stalin and NONE of that great man of history liberal bullshit. I agree with Alan. Sometimes you just need a gulag. I'd expect that the only person actually qualified to give me a reason would be Alan. But I'm curious if anyone here would be able to surprise me.

AshleyO 09-23-2013 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BourbonBoy (Post 807082)
Wait, what? How could anyone admire a man who led to the ruin of a continent and the deaths of millions?

Today we learn that Stalin is super god damned human.

Saya 09-24-2013 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AshleyO (Post 807535)
I don't hate Stalin. Someone give me a good reason why I should hate Stalin and NONE of that great man of history liberal bullshit.

Why not hate both?

Versus 09-24-2013 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HumanePain (Post 807509)
I'm with Versus, there are worse things like Republicans who try for the forty-fuckin-first time to repeal ACA and waste more taxpayer dollars with these futile attempts than they purport to save by repealing the people's will.

They are doing real damage, the Hitler wanna-be's are just making noise. Now if they were Republicans we would have a contender...oh wait...



EDIT: Sorry, didn't mean to thread jack.

I didn't mean anything more then to point out a positive.

Alan 09-24-2013 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Versus (Post 807551)
I didn't mean anything more then to point out a positive.

wut? wwut

AshleyO 09-25-2013 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saya (Post 807549)
Why not hate both?

Because NO. That's why. The Nazis sought to wipe out an entire race of people. The Soviets were fighting those facist brats, saved Europe, and tried to prevent insurrection within Russia's revolution. Notice how I don't bother to hinge my opinion of those two men based on what these two states and governments did? Hitler was a racist asshole who happened to be put into a high office of the German government who issued these orders that EVERYONE ELSE GOD DAMNED FOLLOWED. The Soviets had their own experience with Stalin. They could have ignored his orders any time. Both countries had enough people in their ranks that agreed that the policies that were declared was the proper road to further developing their causes. These two assholes weren't super human.

Saya 09-25-2013 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AshleyO (Post 807557)
Because NO. That's why. The Nazis sought to wipe out an entire race of people. The Soviets were fighting those facist brats, saved Europe, and tried to prevent insurrection within Russia's revolution. Notice how I don't bother to hinge my opinion of those two men based on what these two states and governments did? Hitler was a racist asshole who happened to be put into a high office of the German government who issued these orders that EVERYONE ELSE GOD DAMNED FOLLOWED. The Soviets had their own experience with Stalin. They could have ignored his orders any time. Both countries had enough people in their ranks that agreed that the policies that were declared was the proper road to further developing their causes. These two assholes weren't super human.

Who thinks Hitler or Stalin personally killed every Jew or Roma or gay person themselves?

Ryukil 11-02-2013 11:01 AM

Wait, why would leftists admire Hitler? If these people do exist (which I'm sure they do, because you can find at least one person with just about every view), they must be a very small group. Hitler wasn't on the left.
Anyway, to demonstrate my point that just about every view exists...have you ever heard of the Libertarian National Socialist Green Party?

Alan 11-04-2013 09:24 AM

There are two types of people that fall into this category.

The first type is the type that made me rant about this, but it's not an isolated incident, yet most times it happens it's in Mexico. Over here, the history classes don't go that much into detail on WWII. Yes, they go over the basics, but there was just not as much emphasis as to just how much the Nazis were bad guys as when I moved to an American high school.
So people know that Hitler was a bad guy, but they don't feel it the same way Americans and Europeans do. It's similar to how in the other side of the spectrum there are still many communists in this side of the hemisphere who like Stalin; they hear how many people died but it's easy to tune it out without having suffered the historical context.

The other type of person, and I'm sure many of you have faced them at some point or the other, is the person who will argue that they know Hitler was a bad guy, but that they admire how much of a leader he was, or that he solved Germany's economy, or that he was some form of Machiavellian mastermind that unfortunately used his powers for evil. They argue that they don't like Hitler, but damn he was impressive, and that's all bullshit. Neither Hitler nor fascism overall can claim to be more efficient at anything. The saying that 'Mussolini at least ran the trains of time' is a myth.
These people think they're 'being objective' but really they're just letting themselves go for the myths about Hitler.

Delphina 11-16-2013 02:32 AM

What you are saying seems plausible Alan but is it true?

Can you prove that it is true?

History is a story we tell ourselves about how we came to be where we are

Science, and religion

Belief is the matter

Miss Absynthe 11-16-2013 07:23 AM

Oh dear....

Alan 11-17-2013 12:24 PM

... are you asking if my existence and things around me a provable?
Well, I'm here. Q.E.D. I guess?

Versus 11-17-2013 12:58 PM

Alan doesn't fall for it...? The end times are surely upon us... I need to start packing. And booty. Gonna get me a lotta booty.


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