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No Jail Time For Rapist Because Victim Wanted To Party
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Its bad that part of me wants to just count our blessings that he was convicted at all, isn't it? Just so we're clear, he was convicted, that the victim gave no consent is a total non issue. What he's saying is that this **** isn't so bad because she was dressed a certain way and consented to kissing. Its also disgusting that he says this isn't a typical case, when many cases that go unreported do so because people think "well, I agreed to ____, I was wearing ______, I was doing ____, so no one is going to believe me that I didn't consent to sex." ETA: The victim spoke out and is very unhappy with the sentence: http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bre...116904078.html |
Well, I might be cruicified for this, but...
Honestly, You invite a guy to go into the woods and skinny dip with you. You make out with him. You and him are (presumably) naked, I may be wrong on this, and if I am, then you may disregard my entire argument. Usually when I'm laying down, and slopping spit with a naked chick, I kind of assume that she must want sex. Is that wrong? That must be wrong. Unless she outright said, "No, get off me, I don't want to have sex with you", or struggled, or something, just *something* to let the guy know she really didn't want sex, then, well, I agree with the judge. I have never, before engaging in sex, actually asked, "Would you like to have sex with me?" This just seems like one of those times when the girl was upset with herself and wanted a way out. Now, keep in mine, I wasn't there, and the article didn't really go into detail, so I may easily be wrong and this may be legit r@pe, but that's just my two cents. I'm gonna start getting signed written consent forms from now on when I get lucky enough to have a one night stand. |
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You may not have explicitly asked "do you want to have sex?" But consent isn't necessarily verbal, and may I say that you're walking a dangerous line if you just assume consent. If a person is not willing, and communicating that verbally and physically, pushing you away, saying no, I hope its clear to you that consent is not given. Silence isn't consent, No isn't consent. And if you read the second article, she has a scar from when he got violent with her, its not a "oh she's upset with herself" situation. Why would you even assume that, especially in a case where he is convicted? The false accusation rate for r@pe is no larger than any other crime. |
Holy shit this judge is a disgusting human being.
It makes me sick that a man who obviously thinks women can be "asking for it" is not fit to be a judge. Quote:
#2 No matter what you do with a guy, that never guarantees him sex and it is never an excuse to **** somebody. Quote:
Not only that, but it's not just "no" that means "no". You don't have sex with somebody unless the explicitly say "yes". A lot of people think that if a girl doesn't answer at all, that means it's ok to have sex with her. Some also think that if a girl is so intoxicated that she can't respond, this means it's ok. It's not. Quote:
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Its infuriating that in a case where the law agrees it was rrape, this judge agrees it was ****, the first post makes the assumption that she was just feeling guilty and it wasn't rrape. Its precisely these kinds of attitudes that contribute to rrape culture.
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Man, if you're convicted of **** you should be freaking sent to jail.
Though, honestly, accidental **** is something that worried me back in college I saw this really crappy PSA play about a girl who was ***** by a guy by accident: they had had sex before, he was kissing her, she said no...he stopped then she kissed him because she felt bad, they started making out, and then she "froze in fear" and the guy proceeded to **** her without realizing it. Not a normal situation of course, but man did it scare me...not off sex mind you, I was just certain I was uncomfortablely communicative with my various partners: "I hearafter referred to as "the driller" shall now proceed to engage in sexual intercourse with you, hearafter referred to as "The fur-burger" until such time as we are both satisfied, or I am satisfied first...do you find these terms acceptable? Sign here here and here. |
I Did A Paper On This For One Of My Classes A Few Semesters Ago. Here Are The Statistics....
According to Cease, statistics show that 1.3 women are ***** a minute, 683,280 rapes a year, and one in three Women will be *****. Only 16% of rapes are reported to the police, and that America has the highest rate of **** in the entire world (Cease). I Agree With Probably Most Of The Women In The World When I Say This, But It's Not What You Wear. The Is No Such Thing As "Sex In The Air." To Me That Seems Like Its Just Giving Other Attackers The Green Light Just So They Can Say "Well, I Thought It Was In The Air." I Say Bullshit! |
After reading the second article, I retract my previous statement. From what I understood, this is how it went down
Girl invites guy to skinny dip Girl makes out with guy while naked Guy engages in intercourse Girl screams **** However, I now see that there was violence involved, and that she did let him know that she was not consenting. I was mistaken. However, I'm still writin' up contracts. |
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I get what you're saying, but its a ridiculous fear. Seriously, do none of you ask your partners, "Does this feel good/Do you like that?" "What would you like me to do?" There are sexy ways to get consent! Is it normal to have sex with a person who isn't speaking or moving, obviously not into it, just lying there and taking it? What you said was still infuriating, KMD, and we can now assume you're a lousy lay. |
I completely understand KissMeDeadly, but you just made me think that the idea that there can be a misunderstanding of consent only works if the guy is ok that there's no communication (or movement for that matter) during sex.
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Pretty much what I'm trying to say. And if you do that, you're settling for some really bad sex, and sex for sex's sake. If you value your pleasure and your partner's pleasure, there's little room for miscommunication.
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There's a lady who invented an "anti-****" device... not sure what to think about it, myself... but hell.. use what works.
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One thing about it that concerns me is what if something shifts around or breaks and you end up with a jagged bit of metal inside your cunt? Not exactly the best place to get a sharp object stuck in, especially if it really digs in. Many of the places where this would find high use in are poor, so I would think some women would reuse the same ones over and over again, and I doubt they are capable of handling extended usage. Just look at all the problems non sharp objects that surgeons leave behind in people sometimes cause. |
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Just an update, the judge has been limited to a smaller case load and is no longer allowed to preside over sexual assault cases. Apparently, last summer he got into shit for acquitting a man who assaulted a little girl, but I can't find much more info.
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Crime/20.../17418356.html Protesters are trying to get him fired. Also, apparently the Crown is contemplating appealing the sentence so the man will receive jail time, which I didn't know we could do. I really need to learn more about Canadian criminal law. The government also lodged a complaint, so he might get fired. http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bre...117223298.html |
I found more info. Last year he found a man not guilty of ****** a little girl because the little girl didn't put enough effort in avoiding him, apparently.
http://winnipeg.ctv.ca/servlet/an/lo...b=WinnipegHome Why wasn't he investigated after that case? |
He dismissed the case because the victim didn't act logically, because of course sexually abused kids never fail to act logically. Shit like this makes me feel sick. I wonder if there are any other cases he has mishandled.
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That's disgusting. Plain disgusting.
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