Eat Me, Drink Me
 

Ok I'm new so I'm probably gonna get seriously flamed for this.
Is it just me, or does Marilyn Manson's latest album suck? His other albums were awesome. What the fuck happened?

He made a new album.

Wow, great first post.

Marilyn Manson was never awesome.

Marilyn Manson is a horrible icon for the gothic subculture.

He sucks - period.

I like some of his old stuff, I tried listening to some new songs but I got bored. Maybe thats it. He's not pushing any buttons with this album, just trying to bring attention to his relationship with whatsherface. Its just all boring love songs, which if I want I'll just listen to another band who has a half decent singer.

I occasionally enjoy his music, despite the 100 or so demerit points on my goth license, but I agree that his new stuff is pretty awful.

God fucking damn it. He's NOT a fucking icon of the goth "subculture" in the first place. To say that he's a BAD icon for it gives undue and incorrect credence to the man and his art as something that's goth.

Jesus jumped up in anal, those who claim he's a terrible goth artist is WORSE than those that simply think he's a good artist and doesn't know any better.

Not to mention he never ruddy called himself goth, the media did. He said he was influenced by Goth artists of the 80s, he also said he was influenced by Skinny Puppy.

I would definitively say that EMDM was his most goth album ever, musically (even though I still wouldn't call him goth). though, his lyrics were pretty poor in that album.

another of his greatest influences is david bowie.

im not much of a manson fan but from his old album i liked 2 songs.
i havent heard his new one yet

Manson sucks. End of story.

He's not goth, he's just marketing himself. That's all.

Oooooh, spoken like a true idiot. Instead of telling distain for his music by it's merits (or by oppinion, lack thereof) why not jump on the band wagon by saying: "He's not goth, so he sucks"
Music is music and to everyone their own, but next time try to communicate as to why without looking like a moron.
End of story.

And don't forget Alice Cooper, stealing all his stage show ideas and such.

well, looks like I did, I'm glad you reminded me

I don't think that it sucks I like it but then again I love Manson...
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He is not goth, he is just wierd.

Though I don't mind a couple of the songs on "Eat Me, Drink Me" I found it hard to listen to from start to finish and couldn't get into it like I did with his previous efforts. I felt that it lacked punch and it didn't have any memorable songs on it, like how Anti-Christ Svperstar and Mechanical Animals did.

I used to really be into Manson when I was younger. It was a phase. I had all his cds, several shirts, his autobiography. Then I grew up a little and realized while he's not the worst artist out there, he's nowhere near the best. Eat Me, Drink Me I bought for old times sake and killed the last lingering bits of my obsession.

They divorced to my understanding because their relationship became strained and he fell in love with Evan Rachel Wood.

They both say different things I do believe, I never got her side of the story, and all he really said was that he was so depressed until Evan Rachel Wood came along, he never really said he cheated I don't think, but apparently he did.

You wanna watch the Tainted Love video he did?
Look closely. What does it say on the front of his car?
GOTH

Fail.
Even if he was just using it as an image thing for that clip, he still called himself goth.