Anti-Semitic Trolls on Gothic.net
 

Okay, for the past few months I've really been noticing an undercurrent of anti-Semitism on this site.

Originally I thought it was simply because we have some ardent Atheists, and a couple of very outspoken radical leftists, (Israel is a popular target for those who are against Bush and the "war on terror") but I'm starting to think this may run deeper than socio-political posturing.

For those of you who know me, I'm very liberal. I am all for free speech and extremely opposed to censorship. It's also pretty difficult to offend me, so when I tell you that I am honestly disturbed by some of the stuff which has been linked here, I want you to understand my full meaning.

Now I'm not sure what, if anything, should actually be done about it (at least at this point) I just really don't want to see these forums become a haven for hate-speech like Dev.iant.art. I'm sure the site owners agree with me, since they go through so much trouble to censor words referring to groups like the K.K.K. (a practice which I have criticized in the past, and no doubt will continue to criticize).

I'm not saying we can't talk about the political policies of Israel or Zionism, and I'm certainly not saying we can't criticize a religion. I'm just saying, is this really the direction we want to take as a web-community?

What are you fucking talking about?

Eclipsing The Son has taken to trolling on how evil Jews are but made a thread just like this one saying we are too hard on Mormons.

Well, I wasn't going to name names because they've shown themselves to simply be trolls, but I'm talking about Eclipsing the Son (scroll down to the bottom of the page, and check out the next page).

Though at first I thought he was just a hardcore racist, looking at his and Helpmann's posts, I can tell they're both just trolling, and found that racism has struck a nerve with some members.

Basically I would've PM'd this but once again, I can't send PMs, so I brought it to the community.

I'm not a racist as much as I'm against the tactics of the Jewish culture to twist the completely harmless religious rites of other cultures into some kind of legal wrong doings. I do not appose the race of the Jewish people but I am against many of the extremely disrespectful beliefs and practices they take part in.

Legal wrongdoings? They didn't take any legal action whatsoever, just said "We're peeved, you guys lied to us."

No, you and Helpmann are obvious trolls attempting to toe the line so you can continue to post inflammitory material without getting banned. You're using racist lingo because it provokes a reaction.

Originally I thought you were just stupid; now I can see that I was half-right.

Saya: They're trolls. Ignore them.

So...this is a pointless thread, then?

No, it's not.

I'm not exactly sure what, but if these forums replace K.lu K.lu K.lan with Mickey Mouse Klub, and Censor out r@pe and lo.li they should goddamn well do something when trolls are being blatantly racist, and linking youtube videos title: "This is why People HATE Jews" with comments on them about Hitler being a great man responding to Jewish aggression.

The forum isn't going to turn into a haven for racists, chill out.

This isn't the first time this has happened.
Plus--if people here are racist, who the fuck are you to say they shouldn't be? I don't agree with it, but it's not my business to tell them they can't be or that they can't talk about it.

I have plenty of reason and justification to tell off some racist fucktards if I so choose, and If I have to put up with getting Asterixed out every time I use a word regardless of the context, you can bet your ass I should at least be spared the pain of some mindless racist trolling.

That's nice. I'll let you know if I see any.

You "should" be?

What's your problem?

I think I've pretty obviously spelled out what my problem is. What I'd like to know is what's got your panties in a wad so often?

Wow, where do I start?
Morons.
People who aren't morons but insisting on pretending.
Feelings of entitlement.

So essentially you're just pissed off all the time? That's about what I figured.

If you're not angry, you're just stupid.

I'm totally imagining you sitting at your computer squeezing a stress ball for all it's worth right now.

Seriously Underwear, In the time I've been here, I've only seen like, 2 posts of yours where you're not being a wet blanket. If anyone needs to chill around here it's you.

I support freedom of speech, so I really can't say anything about people expressing racist views on the internet. I despise racism and always will. In my opinion, people can say what ever they feel like at the time. If EtS feels like it, then he can do so. Just like any other forum user can choose to be an irrational idiot.

That would be great, except Gothic.net obviously does not feel the same way.

I'm saying if we have to put up with all this regulation from the site when it doesn't matter, we should at least get the benefit of that regulation when it does.

otherwise we're just getting fucked from both ends.

Shut your filthy fascist mouth this instance. Who do you think you are to decide what Gothic.net feels?

Then I guess you're not around much.

You may be right. Even if you are, I'm going to sit back and watch how it all pans out. I really don't mind if the two imbeciles try to wreck the place. Eventually everything will be back to normal.

That's the stupidest fucking thing I ever read.
(oh now, I'm sure I'll get an "out of the blue" IM after this)

Being a happy person doesn't make you ignorant or stupid. In fact, it's kinda dumb to just go around being angry all the time.
I mean, shit...if you are angry, whatev...we all have human emotions, but why not do something about your anger (maybe you do, I don't know your life) instead of just bitching and being moody?
I mean, I can't imagine being angry all the time would make anyone feel good.
Anyway, is life really that bad that you gotta be constantly angry?

Also, I'm not trying to have a huge argument so you can forget those balls.

I agree with that . If you don't like this forum , go somewhere you feel more comfortable .