A few more recent links -
Last month at the Dublin 'horse fair' which is nothing more than a bi-monthly event where travellers get together and sell horses to each other, there was a shoot out.
http://www.independent.ie/national-n...r-2568364.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPDc5fMSFZY
Two families that didn't get along decided open fire in crowds of women and children. They had explosive devices and machetes.
The whole thing is caught on film. Have a look and tell me you support that sort of thing.