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Old 05-07-2012, 10:34 PM   #13
AshleyO
 
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Originally Posted by emeraldlonewoulf View Post
But see, the Christians you speak with will come up with something like " Judas hung himself but the body rotted and THEN fell headlong and the intestines fell out. And, seeing as it was his money that bought the field, he basically did buy it, because he completed the work the money was paid for, even if he was remorseful afterwards and tried to give it back."
Oh I fully expect that kind of explanation. However, that's more hearsay than even the bible is. That is just flat out making shit up. It even makes sense. But it's not up to the apologist to fill in the gaps because they technically can't because their explanation would be just as relevant as mine and both equally true. I could insist that the angel of death decided to drag his corpse back into the temple, and his dead body took the silver and bought the field. It's just as likely as talking snakes, magic apples, virgin births, and talking burning bushes. It's just as weird.

We could even say that the priests indeed bought the field with Judas's money so he bought it by proxy. But you see, that's silly. If I'm dead and one takes my money and buys a car with it. It's not like I was responsible for making the purchase.

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Just sayin'. There's always an explanation when you are dealing with a text full of contradiction and different, incomplete perspectives, that has gone through multiple translations and about 2k years dealing with gospel written third hand in the first place. ANY story would have multiple tellings with differing details put through all of that. Add in that the people who believe it implicitly are LOOKING for every item that could support their perspective and happily discard anything that looks as though it would interfere, and you have an uphill battle.

Realize when you get into discussions with Christians that you are dealing with a brainwashed mindset that, in most cases, has been instilled since birth. I wish you the best of luck.
Nah, I get you with that. I rarely argue with them, so I kind of go after the authoritative source material quite a bit. I understand the bible has a lot of problems. But it's not enough to say that, it has to be shown. If you can show it, it makes it harder to believe. Then again, some people are crazy.
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