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Creed of Heresy · 10-26-2013, 04:22 AM

Yes, I am quite aware that being a woman is difficult. Last I checked, women make like 75 cents to the dollar compared to men on average. But the reasons for that aren't what you think they are: http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2012/10...less-than-men/ There is also the sexual assault thing, but...read the bottom of the post about that. Now, you seem to imply that being gay and a woman gains you the same kind of amount of hate whereas that for being irreligious does not. I have a very, very, very hard time believing for even a moment that being a woman is gaining you equal hatred to being either irreligious or gay. ESPECIALLY gay. Women are not nearly as hated as either atheists or gays, don't even try to tell me that bullshit. As for systematic oppression, did you miss the part where I mentioned that in eight states YOU CANNOT HOLD PUBLIC OFFICE IF YOU ARE OPENLY ATHEISTIC? How about the fact there is one single openly atheistic member of congress, and none in the senate? Heck, Tammy Baldwin is from Wisconsin, she was openly lesbian before she was even elected; there's several gay members in office. Am I saying being gay is easy? No, not even slightly, I am highly aware of what discrimination and bigotry they have to endure. Am I saying sexism doesn't exist? No, I am aware of what women have to deal with in many ways. But you are the one saying that being one or the other makes you more likely to be murdered and/or sexually assaulted. "Does not put at risk for being murdered..."

Hm. So what you're saying is, when I was assaulted by that group, even if they had not scattered when a car went driving by, they would have probably stopped on their own, right? You know this for certain? I mean, clearly they are rational, restrained individuals, attacking one single guy who has done nothing to them because he's one of THOSE kinds of people. And, really? It doesn't put you at risk? I beg to differ.

http://vassleer.newsvine.com/_news/2...ing-an-atheist

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/1...ieving-in-god/

Those two are the only links I've bookmarked on the topic that are still up, the rest were all broken or missing, probably archived on the sites they were once hosted on. There was one about a Christian man taking a lumber axe to two of his friends when he discovered they were atheists. It happens more than you would think.

There was also that business with Madalyn Murray...

Upon this, to kill someone for being an atheist does not constitute a hate-crime. Look it up. They will not add hate-crime to murdering someone for being an atheist.

And terribly unreliable and biased? No worries, the one I have is quite reliable and unbiased.

http://thesocietypages.org/files/201...an-Society.pdf

This is a study by a social sciences group with no affiliation with any group of any kind; they focus on religious and ethnic diversity within the US. Those who did the study had thought that muslims would most likely come up the most reviled, but, nope.

And we are not going to discuss sexual assault and gender. For a few very glaring, personal reasons. If you really feel we must, send me a PM, otherwise, no.

10-26-2013, 04:22 AM	#21
Creed of Heresy Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 18	Yes, I am quite aware that being a woman is difficult. Last I checked, women make like 75 cents to the dollar compared to men on average. But the reasons for that aren't what you think they are: http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2012/10...less-than-men/ There is also the sexual assault thing, but...read the bottom of the post about that. Now, you seem to imply that being gay and a woman gains you the same kind of amount of hate whereas that for being irreligious does not. I have a very, very, very hard time believing for even a moment that being a woman is gaining you equal hatred to being either irreligious or gay. ESPECIALLY gay. Women are not nearly as hated as either atheists or gays, don't even try to tell me that bullshit. As for systematic oppression, did you miss the part where I mentioned that in eight states YOU CANNOT HOLD PUBLIC OFFICE IF YOU ARE OPENLY ATHEISTIC? How about the fact there is one single openly atheistic member of congress, and none in the senate? Heck, Tammy Baldwin is from Wisconsin, she was openly lesbian before she was even elected; there's several gay members in office. Am I saying being gay is easy? No, not even slightly, I am highly aware of what discrimination and bigotry they have to endure. Am I saying sexism doesn't exist? No, I am aware of what women have to deal with in many ways. But you are the one saying that being one or the other makes you more likely to be murdered and/or sexually assaulted. "Does not put at risk for being murdered..." Hm. So what you're saying is, when I was assaulted by that group, even if they had not scattered when a car went driving by, they would have probably stopped on their own, right? You know this for certain? I mean, clearly they are rational, restrained individuals, attacking one single guy who has done nothing to them because he's one of THOSE kinds of people. And, really? It doesn't put you at risk? I beg to differ. http://vassleer.newsvine.com/_news/2...ing-an-atheist http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/1...ieving-in-god/ Those two are the only links I've bookmarked on the topic that are still up, the rest were all broken or missing, probably archived on the sites they were once hosted on. There was one about a Christian man taking a lumber axe to two of his friends when he discovered they were atheists. It happens more than you would think. There was also that business with Madalyn Murray... Upon this, to kill someone for being an atheist does not constitute a hate-crime. Look it up. They will not add hate-crime to murdering someone for being an atheist. And terribly unreliable and biased? No worries, the one I have is quite reliable and unbiased. http://thesocietypages.org/files/201...an-Society.pdf This is a study by a social sciences group with no affiliation with any group of any kind; they focus on religious and ethnic diversity within the US. Those who did the study had thought that muslims would most likely come up the most reviled, but, nope. And we are not going to discuss sexual assault and gender. For a few very glaring, personal reasons. If you really feel we must, send me a PM, otherwise, no.