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Old 04-11-2006, 02:06 PM   #26
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My Girlfriend is crying in pain and we dont know what to do. I promised I wouldnt post but Im left with no out let. She is in serious pain and is wondering how serious this is. Are choices are bad. I can take her to the hospital where she will wait for 11 hours or more (we've been there and know that) or call an ambulance which means several thousand or try and hope its not something really serious.

Flame me all you want but the bottom line is 80 hospitals closed due to illegals and yes I blame this fu#ed up night on them as I know we wouldnt have nearly a tough decision if there werent so many of them here. Yeah I'm pissed as hell and worried. When it comes down to people you love you get angry and dont care about the argument you care about what you've lossed or could lose.

I'm scared and so is she. We dont know what to do.


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Old 04-11-2006, 03:55 PM   #27
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Binkie-no, he hasn't made a remark denoting a specific group of illegals, but something he told me might clarify this a bit.....when I made my offer for one of the White Supremacists/White Priders to write an article for my magazine (I guess I should stop calling it "my magazine" since I don't actually own it.....sorry, it's habit) he said something to the effect of "I don't neccesarily look down upon other races. I just think the white race should start fighting back". So whenever he posts, keep this thoughtline in mind. Whether he wants to admit it or not, he does view things through a prism of race.

In many ways, his seesawing reminds me of Asurai....except not as cogent....or as close to cogent as Assurai could ever get...
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Old 04-12-2006, 01:30 AM   #28
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You must have missed it, Binks. There is this White Supremacist forum online and they made a thread about how we were dissing Lynx and Lamb (the Prussian Blue girls) and how they should all come and troll us. That's where 4mytribe came from. From a White Supremacist site.
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:04 AM   #29
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No, it's not just you Pinstripes..

But that one is a lost cause..

Here is the PM he felt the need to send me when he created this thread;

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Yeah it does get personal
I hear you on your story and how the immigration issues hit you but it hit me tonight. And tonight I dont give a flying fuck about you or your family I care about mine. My family wouldnt have to make potentially life threatening decisions tonight if it werent for illegals. We had to make that choice and hopefully we made the right choice. This is where it does get personal. When it comes down to you or me ..... then fuck you.

I want whats best for and mine first as do you so in the end there will likely be conflict as the two sides are already at extreme odds.

Its nights like this when it gets cystal.


Who needs a Laxative when you have people like this slithering around?

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Old 04-12-2006, 04:17 AM   #30
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Your point is? Illegal aliens in this country come in all different shapes, sizes, ages, races, and creeds. Equating them all into being "Mexicans" is an ignorant stereotype.
Once again, go back and read the other articles. White supremacists from the Storm Front website tend not to care about say white East German immigrants living in their neighbourhood.

Also, thanks for re-interating my point about illegals being from all over.

I have said that, in multiple articles, which you have responded to - and thanks for taking my exact words and trying to use them against me.

https://www.gothic.net/boards/showpo...3&postcount=53

And, that arguement about their being many other types of illegals is my argument - you can feel free to copy and paste it from there if you want. I mean, you did read it first when I said it. Just please, give me credit before you take my throughts and ideas and post them here.

Also, if you haven't lived in California, then you really have no frame of reference on this. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of other illegals there. I lived with a bunch of illegal Irish lads in LA for a while, but comparatively to the Mexcian population, who DO prefered to be called Mexcian, NOT Latino, as they signifies a Mexcian born in the states, its NOT a racist statement. Much like my previous statement about Africans prefering to be called 'coloured' instead of 'black'.

But, unless you have lived there and actually met these people and experienced these cultures you wouldn't know that.


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He's blaming it on illegals. The illegals he's talking about can be Caucasians from Canada or Eastern Europe for all you know. He never mentioned race.
Ater these post(s), I'm thinking that Eastern Europeans don't bother him too much as opposed to Mexicans.

https://www.gothic.net/boards/showth...491#post114491

Just scroll through those if ye missed 'em.
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Old 04-12-2006, 08:14 AM   #31
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I just love it when somebody says that somebody else forced them to do something:

i.e. "Omigod! I couldn't take my girlfriend to the hospital because of all the illegals!"

I read a second line into this - "Because they were piling up against all the doors and windows and cut my phone line and ***** my dog and left chimichangas all over the driveway, thus hindering my escape!"

Riiiiiight.

*drips sarcasm*

I prefer it when people take responsibility for themselves and don't blame things on other people, especially when they're discriminating against someone because of something they can't, and shouldn't have to, change about themselves.
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Old 04-12-2006, 10:53 AM   #32
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I just love it when somebody says that somebody else forced them to do something:

i.e. "Omigod! I couldn't take my girlfriend to the hospital because of all the illegals!"

I read a second line into this - "Because they were piling up against all the doors and windows and cut my phone line and ***** my dog and left chimichangas all over the driveway, thus hindering my escape!"

Riiiiiight.

*drips sarcasm*

I prefer it when people take responsibility for themselves and don't blame things on other people, especially when they're discriminating against someone because of something they can't, and shouldn't have to, change about themselves.
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Old 04-12-2006, 01:35 PM   #33
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Binkie-no, he hasn't made a remark denoting a specific group of illegals, but something he told me might clarify this a bit.....when I made my offer for one of the White Supremacists/White Priders to write an article for my magazine (I guess I should stop calling it "my magazine" since I don't actually own it.....sorry, it's habit) he said something to the effect of "I don't neccesarily look down upon other races. I just think the white race should start fighting back". So whenever he posts, keep this thoughtline in mind. Whether he wants to admit it or not, he does view things through a prism of race.

In many ways, his seesawing reminds me of Asurai....except not as cogent....or as close to cogent as Assurai could ever get...
True, Loy, but he also claimed there were "embarassments" (i.e. people) to his race. He has made that concession, so it's not entirely out of the question that this may not entirely be a race issue.

I'd like him to come back at some point and clarify, but I somehow get the impression that he's lost interest in debating/arguing/whatever on this forum, which is all fine and dandy too.
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:10 PM   #34
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Once again, go back and read the other articles. White supremacists from the Storm Front website tend not to care about say white East German immigrants living in their neighbourhood.
Maybe you didn't read some of his statements regarding other races. He has said several times that he doesn't think of other races as inferior. That would make him NOT a White Supremacist. He views everything through a "racial prism" (Loy phrased it perfectly), yes, but that doesn't make him a White Supremacist.

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I have said that, in multiple articles, which you have responded to - and thanks for taking my exact words and trying to use them against me.
WTF are you talking about? I didn't respond to any of those posts, that thread, or even that topic until this crap (this thread) came up and you came at me saying, "Well you don't see Eastern Europeans out there going on about illegal immigration." As I said before, what is your point? It doesn't discount the fact that illegals encompass a vast majority of races, so why even make a point out of that? If you weren't trying to say that Eastern Europeans aren't illegals, then why mention that, "most of them folks you see on the boob tube are Mexicans/Hispanics?"

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AH HAHAHA! You think that by somehow stating common knowledge and statistics is somehow YOUR original idea/thought? Don't flatter yourself, Sternn. It's not "underground knowledge" you're exactly citing here, big boy. Especially if you've stayed in Cali or along the East Coast. This is akin to you saying, "But I said Iraqis are dying FIRST! It was MY idea and thought!"

R-i-g-h-t.

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Also, if you haven't lived in California, then you really have no frame of reference on this. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of other illegals there. I lived with a bunch of illegal Irish lads in LA for a while, but comparatively to the Mexcian population, who DO prefered to be called Mexcian, NOT Latino, as they signifies a Mexcian born in the states, its NOT a racist statement. Much like my previous statement about Africans prefering to be called 'coloured' instead of 'black'.

But, unless you have lived there and actually met these people and experienced these cultures you wouldn't know that.
First off, since you like to make assumptions, I was in Cali for a while back in the 90s. Another member of this board that lives there knows this so don't make yourself look stupid by trying to say that never happened (like you have any fucking room to anyways). Second off, what equated to a "racist" move was you immediately jumping on this guy's case when he mentioned "illegals," and your subsequent response being about nothing but racial minorities as though there are no illegal aliens that are white in either Ireland or the US.

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Ater these post(s), I'm thinking that Eastern Europeans don't bother him too much as opposed to Mexicans.

https://www.gothic.net/boards/showth...491#post114491

Just scroll through those if ye missed 'em.
Oh I didn't miss them. He reiterated the same thing in this post:

https://www.gothic.net/boards/showpo...&postcount=421

Then went on to explain that his race has produced some "pure trash" in terms of people. Perhaps you missed that post.
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:26 PM   #35
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All of this aside - how's the girlfriend bearing up?
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Old 04-12-2006, 11:23 PM   #36
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I wonder................

if this was all some idiotic prank to see what our reaction would be?


Also, to clarify: Earlier I was not implying his lack of fucktardedness ( I don't think that is actually a word) , or that his views weren't screwed up. I just think that if his judgement is so messed up, he needs help of some sort. and that I hope his girlfriend is doing better.

on another note, what the hell is up with simultaneously PMing people crap like that when he obviously has a sick loved one to tend to? one more thing that kind of makes me think he did this solely for entertainment.
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Old 04-13-2006, 03:17 AM   #37
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Bink -

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Old 04-13-2006, 02:43 PM   #38
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I saw, I responded with information that contradicted your own points. You failed to produce a counter arguement.
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Old 04-14-2006, 09:46 PM   #39
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Binkie-everytime I read something of yours I wanna just blow kisses in your general direction...after I pick nyself up from the ground from laughing so hard. But then people would think I respected you, and you know, me being a male, I couldn't EVER do that.
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Old 04-15-2006, 02:36 AM   #40
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It's ok, Loy. Your secret is safe with me. ;)
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Old 04-26-2006, 01:27 AM   #41
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I hope your girlfriend is better.
I may get to the xenophobia later, but for now, I just hope your girlfriend gets better.
Thank you she is much better and it was a heart condition and they have her on meds and a strict diet that she is complying to.

Thank you for your concern.
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Old 04-26-2006, 01:29 AM   #42
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The xenophobia is really uncalled for. As mentioned, it's not about color or race - it's about money.

In Ireland we have very few colors, yes here they call themselves colored and if you say black it's offensive. Africans call themselves colored people. In the states, that has a different meaning I know because of the history there, but the rest of the world black people prefer to be called colored.

So we have few here. However, we still have bad neighborhoods where cops/fire brigrade/ambulances won't go after dark without a police escort. Everyone in those neighborhoods is white. Poor, white, and just as violent and cause the same problems.

Blaming it on a 'race' or the color of ones skin is a cop out to avoid the real issue - poverty and elitism.

By keeping you at odds with your neighbors, and keeping you ever vigilant fighting against these other races, you never will rise above where you are now. Because your fighting the wrong person and getting involved in the wrong battles (ie. you will hand out petitions for say immigration reform but will abstain from helping with any living wage reforms), you shoot yerself in the foot and the upper class wins.

Tis the doctrine of Stalin. Make the rich more rich, and the poor more poor, then put the middle class in a tight spot and grind them down until there are only two classes - the ruling class and the masses.

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I would tend to agree with alot of what you say in that this about economics more than anything and when it comes to the elites we are all peasants that they want to stomp on.
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Old 04-26-2006, 01:32 AM   #43
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Did you miss the whole prussian blue thread. He claimed mexicans. Correct me if I am wrong 4mytribe, but you distinctly said people of the latino perssuasion on more than one occassion?

And watching the world news today and yesterday, all the protests over the illegal immagrant laws, didn't see many Eastern European groups out there? I mean, I'm sure they are they, I know many in NYC, but not hundreds of thousands, especially those out there.
Dont know exactly what post your talking about but here in souther Cali yes of course its mostly Latino's but what goes for here goes for many countries with different groups of people. The truth is the USA is being over run population wise and it will be a problem that will brake it. ITs just numbers. In my neighborhood its Mexicans in another country it could be whites.

Whatever we all suffer and bleed the same.
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That's a pretty weak excuse to not take someone you supposedly 'love' to the hospital!

If you really cared about her you would've been at the hospital and not posting on a messageboard.
Maybe you should go back to what I posted and read it again. In the end we went for the several thousand dollar ride to the hospital to be safe. Keep in mind when I was posting I didnt have time to keep you up to date and in the end we played it safe.
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You must have missed it, Binks. There is this White Supremacist forum online and they made a thread about how we were dissing Lynx and Lamb (the Prussian Blue girls) and how they should all come and troll us. That's where 4mytribe came from. From a White Supremacist site.
When I release my music I have 5 sites that I go first 2 of them are black sites and this is another. As far as the White site that your referring to its not even in the first 5 sites I release to. And yes I did come from that site but my question would be what sites have you visited that dont conform to your views 100%?

If I visit this site does that mean that I agree with everyone on this site?

I march to my own drum and thats that.
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Yeah, but he being racist will obviously refer to mexicans as illegals more than anything
Whatever

Tell that to my 80% Mexican loved ones

hahahahaha

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Old 04-26-2006, 01:47 AM   #47
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*puts hand to forehead*

It's not my fault I can't get a job - it's the illegals!

Uhh...the fact that I'm uneducated is the fault of...free public education provided by THE MAN!

I...am a hopeless victim of...the SYSTEM!

NOOOOooooo...

You are lazy. You are stupid.

And it's all your own fault.

Get a job.
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Old 04-26-2006, 01:50 AM   #48
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Forgive me if this has already been addressed, but if this fellow's woman was in such dire straits why the FUCK was he posting about in on the interweb? Jesus, he even did little status reports. "She passed out? Dear lord! To the internet! I must alert the forums!" No, you must alert the PARAMEDICS. Am I the only one who finds this idiotic lack of prioritization more disturbing than his prediliction for racist tripe?
Her Adopted mom is a doctor and she was seeking advice while I was pacing the floor on the internet. It was a way for me to vent.
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Old 04-26-2006, 01:52 AM   #49
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Wow you would actually betray trust and release a private conversation. Thats a new one as I havnt seen yet. This is really amazing to me. Ive never actually had this happen to me where someone would do that.

Interesting.



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No, it's not just you Pinstripes..

But that one is a lost cause..

Here is the PM he felt the need to send me when he created this thread;

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Yeah it does get personal
I hear you on your story and how the immigration issues hit you but it hit me tonight. And tonight I dont give a flying fuck about you or your family I care about mine. My family wouldnt have to make potentially life threatening decisions tonight if it werent for illegals. We had to make that choice and hopefully we made the right choice. This is where it does get personal. When it comes down to you or me ..... then fuck you.

I want whats best for and mine first as do you so in the end there will likely be conflict as the two sides are already at extreme odds.

Its nights like this when it gets cystal.


Who needs a Laxative when you have people like this slithering around?

*sigh*
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Old 04-26-2006, 01:57 AM   #50
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Wow I can't believe that people would just put personal conversations out like that I am really dissapointed. Those were personal conversations that I gave you in confidance out of friendship and you spit on me. And you didnt even give the decency to quote me full but to put me in the worst light. I'm not even known yet and this is how it is. Well now I know I can trust no one.

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Binkie-no, he hasn't made a remark denoting a specific group of illegals, but something he told me might clarify this a bit.....when I made my offer for one of the White Supremacists/White Priders to write an article for my magazine (I guess I should stop calling it "my magazine" since I don't actually own it.....sorry, it's habit) he said something to the effect of "I don't neccesarily look down upon other races. I just think the white race should start fighting back". So whenever he posts, keep this thoughtline in mind. Whether he wants to admit it or not, he does view things through a prism of race.

In many ways, his seesawing reminds me of Asurai....except not as cogent....or as close to cogent as Assurai could ever get...
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