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Politics "Under democracy, one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule -and both commonly succeed, and are right."
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02-20-2006, 05:40 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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np: Throbbing Gristle -10 Pence
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Originally Posted by CptSternn
Even funnier are bands like Metallica who have various albums chocked full of songs they didn't write or pay rights for (ie. Whiskey In The Jar). As mentioned before, yes, they did take a Thin Lizzy cover, but they never paid shite fer it. It's a public domain song, and has been for a few decades.
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Actually, not decades, centuries. It's thought to date from the 18th century (you did mean Thin Lizzy covered it, I hope)?
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02-20-2006, 06:39 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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Exactly. Thin Lizzy covered it, Metallica claimed they covered Thin Lizzys version, they did, but in the end, no royalties were paid. Of course now Metallicas version is protected and trying to cover it will cost you a few hundred thousand, and getting caught downloading it will get you sent to prison, and under new copyright laws enacted under gw, isn't it 200 years after the author dies the song goes into public domain? 200 years? Something like that.
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02-20-2006, 09:23 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
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Not to mention Metallica took one of my favorite Irish Folk songs and Anally Violated it beyond Recognition..
*sniffle*
There ought to be a Law against Metallica fucking it up for pretty much everyone else in the Free World, if we're making stupid fucking laws.
Go Lars!!!
Friggin Tool.
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02-20-2006, 09:53 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: I own Pitseleh!!
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I'd loved the song before Metallica beat it to a pulp. Shitheads.
Go Lars and James too, for ruining a beautiful song.
I just think it's hilarious that you can go to jail IN THE STATES for downloading a bastardized version of an IRISH FOLKSONG.
Where does it end?
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02-20-2006, 10:34 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Cimmeria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CptSternn
Exactly. Thin Lizzy covered it, Metallica claimed they covered Thin Lizzys version, they did, but in the end, no royalties were paid. Of course now Metallicas version is protected and trying to cover it will cost you a few hundred thousand, and getting caught downloading it will get you sent to prison, and under new copyright laws enacted under gw, isn't it 200 years after the author dies the song goes into public domain? 200 years? Something like that.
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I think it might be 50 years after the Artist passes away, that some music goes into the public domain, other wise alot of contempory music (twentieth century onwards) could not be re-produced royalty free....I think
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02-20-2006, 10:41 AM
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A copyright in the U.S. in most cases lasts the life of the 'author' (artist, writer, songwriter etc.) plus 50 years, before the work becomes public domain, in which case it is available for unrestricted use by anyone. Once a work falls into the public domain it can never be recaptured by the owner.
You can find all of the nuances for Public Domain here;
http://www.pdinfo.com/faq.htm
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02-21-2006, 04:40 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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http://www.arsny.com/basics.html
Life of the artist + 95 years - so if yer man wrote the song when he was in his 20's (lets say 24), and lives to be say 84, then yer looking at close to 160 years.
Unless it's a work for hire, then it could be 120 years (making it closer to 200 years approx.), and work done while under contract for a record company counts as work for hire.
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02-22-2006, 04:29 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sheridan
Well, when we stop getting terrorist attacks because of things that the USA has done, then we'll stop obsessing about its high-and-mighty attitude in world affairs.
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If you bothered to read around you would've realized that the comment wasn't pointed at you.
But since you feel the need to take it out of context, let's begin.
What attacks have you suffered at the hands of the US?
And when you talk about the high-and-mighty attitude of 'the US', are you speaking of the American government? The American people? All of them? Some of them? Where are you going with this one? Does it even enter your brain that all Americans may or may not support their government's foreign policy?
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