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11-11-2008, 04:34 PM
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Wearing Black Does Make You Goth...
...I'm sorry but this has to be said.
There are a lot of fat, ugly, boring fucktards who think that, because they are too frigid to wear black clothes everyday and adorn themselves with cool hair that they can be considered "Goth" with those who do...
I'm sorry, but you're not goth and never will be.
Seriously... Goth is more than fashion (I'll agree with that)... but if it is a lifestyle and a world view, surely an individual would wear something to reflect this.
So-called individuals who are too timid to reflect themselves via their appearance are so utterly worthless at parties; so utterly introverted that they are not worth anyones time or effort. For as start, these so-called "goth without the clothes" individuals will NEVER be seen in clubs... nor at organised goth weekends... it's as though they only exist on the internet.
So they must be closet goths... not to be taken seriously in the slightest.
On the whole the only people who put forward this stupid argument always exist exclusively on the internet. And they are almost always certainly fat, ugly and boring fuctkards. It's as if the goth movement gives these worthless cretins some hope of joining a subculture that will not "judge" them.
You think Goths don't judge? HA - Goths are the bitchiest, most judgemental pricks on the face of the earth.
Since when did Goth become a subculture for fat, ugly boring fucktards?
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11-11-2008, 04:43 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Albany, NY
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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
Seriously... Goth is more than fashion (I'll agree with that)... but if it is a lifestyle and a world view, surely an individual would wear something to reflect this.
Since when did Goth become a subculture for fat, ugly boring fucktards?
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I resent that. I'm not fat.
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11-11-2008, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PinstripesAndPithHelmets
I resent that. I'm not fat.
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... such a valid point...
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11-11-2008, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
Seriously... Goth is more than fashion (I'll agree with that)... but if it is a lifestyle and a world view, surely an individual would wear something to reflect this.
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I don't think its a world view or lifestyle either. Its just a fanclub for goth music.
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11-11-2008, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
... such a valid point...
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No more valid than your original post, my good man.
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11-11-2008, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PinstripesAndPithHelmets
No more valid than your original post, my good man.
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And yet you felt the need to respond to prop up your post count...
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11-11-2008, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Saya
I don't think its a world view or lifestyle either. Its just a fanclub for goth music.
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You are an unthinking philistine.
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11-11-2008, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
You are an unthinking .
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No, I'm just aware that dark thinking, wearing black and being woeful doesn't make one goth if you aren't a fan of goth music. Its like saying you're punk when you don't listen to punk music. The music is first, everything else is trimming.
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11-11-2008, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
And yet you felt the need to respond to prop up your post count...
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Who says it has anything to do with my post count?
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11-11-2008, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Saya
No, I'm just aware that dark thinking, wearing black and being woeful doesn't make one goth if you aren't a fan of goth music. Its like saying you're punk when you don't listen to punk music. The music is first, everything else is trimming.
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Oh what a fucking retarded, former-emo fuckstick you are.
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11-11-2008, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PinstripesAndPithHelmets
Who says it has anything to do with my post count?
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The fact that you felt the urge to respod, regardless of how idiotic you found the thread.
The fact remains - Goth is more than just a musical lifestyle. It transcends beyond musical boundries (and judging from most of your musical tastes, are quite ungoth).
Don't even try and counter this - I was wearing black before any of you, and before it was goth.
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11-11-2008, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
Oh what a fucking retarded, former-emo fuckstick you are.
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I was never a Fugazi fan, sir, and I'll have you know I am not mentally disabled. I don't know exactly what a stick of fuck looks like but I somehow don't think I'm that either.
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11-11-2008, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Saya
I was never a Fugazi fan, sir, and I'll have you know I am not mentally disabled. I don't know exactly what a stick of fuck looks like but I somehow don't think I'm that either.
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You think calling me Sir will give you the air of the pretentious victorian oh-so-goth flare you aspire to express in your sordid little response?
And don't try and be clever with my posts; you're a semi literate who hasn't even finished school yet.
Case dismissed.
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11-11-2008, 05:00 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cumbria, United Kingdom
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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
Since when did Goth become a subculture for fat, ugly boring fucktards?
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Since 'December 2007'. Couldn't resist.
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11-11-2008, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
Don't even try and counter this - I was wearing black before any of you, and before it was goth.
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So were priests. They wore black way before any of us, so they must've been so goth that they... administered the host? Wait... what?
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11-11-2008, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
The fact that you felt the urge to respod, regardless of how idiotic you found the thread.
The fact remains - Goth is more than just a musical lifestyle. It transcends beyond musical boundries (and judging from most of your musical tastes, are quite ungoth).
Don't even try and counter this - I was wearing black before any of you, and before it was goth.
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I'm not sure how I feel about the idea that the person who allows 'goth' to describe only his or her taste in music is more the unthinking philistine than the person who grounds his or her lifestyle and worldview in wearing black and being mopey.
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11-11-2008, 05:02 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
You think calling me Sir will give you the air of the pretentious victorian oh-so-goth flare you aspire to express in your sordid little response?
And don't try and be clever with my posts; you're a semi literate who hasn't even finished school yet.
Case dismissed.
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I graduated high school years ago if thats what you're implying, although granted I'm not finished my degree yet. And you have "sir" in your name, so I don't think it was out of place.
And you are the pretentious one who thinks wearing black somehow makes you special, especially since you've been doing it before it was goth, yet somehow wearing black makes you goth, so you were always goth, even before goth came?
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11-11-2008, 05:03 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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Originally Posted by PinstripesAndPithHelmets
So were priests. They wore black way before any of us, so they must've been so goth that they... administered the host? Wait... what?
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Oh here he goes Ladies and Gentlemen; off to fight the "good fight"... to defend his internet integrity for the amusement of like-minded morons who might actually take into consideration the sordid and overtly stupid comparisons he may muster.
You thought about this subect for a whole five minutes and think you've come to some interesting conclusions?
I don't give a toss for your internet assembled philosophies on the subject.
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11-11-2008, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Saya
I graduated high school years ago if thats what you're implying, although granted I'm not finished my degree yet. And you have "sir" in your name, so I don't think it was out of place.
And you are the pretentious one who thinks wearing black somehow makes you special, especially since you've been doing it before it was goth, yet somehow wearing black makes you goth, so you were always goth, even before goth came?
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Seriously, you need to get out more.
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11-11-2008, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
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I don't give a toss for your internet assembled philosophies on the subject.
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Then why make a post assaulting what you think to be an affront to your "goth" sensibilities?
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11-11-2008, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PinstripesAndPithHelmets
Then why make a post assaulting what you think to be an affront to your "goth" sensibilities?
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What is this trashy excuse of an argument? Are you seriously trying to turn the argument aroud in the vian hope you will "catch me out", turning the subject around to an issue you are well versed in?
I stand before you with 4,000 years of academic history behind me to back up my arguments... and frankly I don't think you've lived a life worthy of my attention.
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11-11-2008, 05:10 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
I stand before you with 4,000 years of academic history behind me to back up my arguments... and frankly I don't think you've lived a life worthy of my attention.
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Oh Christ, he's one of those people who thinks they are immortal vampires.
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11-11-2008, 05:10 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
What is this trashy excuse of an argument? Are you seriously trying to turn the argument aroud in the vian hope you will "catch me out", turning the subject around to a subject you are well versed in?
I stand before you with 4,000 years of academic history behind me to back up my arguments... and frankly I don't think you've lived a life worthy of my attention.
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Actually, I was hoping for an honest answer to my question.
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11-11-2008, 05:10 PM
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What if I'm a fat, ugly, boring vampire?
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11-11-2008, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by gothicusmaximus
What if I'm a fat, ugly, boring vampire?
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Then you totally will not be featured in the next Anne Rice novel.
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