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Old 03-24-2006, 07:53 PM   #1
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Multiculturalism and socialism

The roots of Multi-culturalism and many other dominant PC (politically Correct) ism's come directly from Socialism and Communism.

What we call “political correctness” actually dates back to the Soviet Union of the 1920s (politicheskaya pravil’nost’ in Russian), and was the extension of political control to education, psychiatry, ethics, and behavior. It was an essential component of the attempt to make sure all aspects of life were consistent with ideological orthodoxy – which is the distinctive feature of all totalitarianisms. In the post-Stalin period, political correctness even meant that dissent was seen as a symptom of mental illness, for which the only treatment was incarceration.

In the 1930s, collective guilt justified murdering millions of Russian peasants. As cited by Robert Conquest in The Harvest of Sorrow (p. 143), the state’s view of this class was, “not one of them was guilty of anything; but they belonged to a class that was guilty of everything.” Stigmatizing entire institutions and groups makes it much easier to carry out wholesale change.


The wisdom of the oppressed.
This, of course, is the beauty of “racism” and “sexism” for today’s culture attackers – sin can be extended far beyond individuals to include institutions, literature, language, history, laws, customs, entire civilizations. The charge of “institutional racism” is no different from declaring an entire economic class an enemy of the people. “Racism” and “sexism” are multiculturalism’s assault weapons, its Big Ideas, just as class warfare was for Communists, and the effects are the same. If a crime can be collectivized all can be guilty because they belong to the wrong group. When young whites are victims of racial preferences they are to-day’s version of the Russian peasants. Even if they themselves have never oppressed anyone they “belong to the race that is guilty of everything.”

The purpose of these multi-cultural campaigns is to destroy the self. The mouth moves, the right gestures follow, but they are the mouth and gestures of a zombie, the new Soviet man or, today, PC-man. And once enough people have been conditioned this way, violence is no longer necessary. We reach steady-state totalitarianism, in which the vast majority know what is expected of them and play their allotted roles.

Multiculturalism has the same ambitions as Soviet Communism. It is absolutist in the pursuit of its various agendas, yet it relativizes all other perspectives in its attack on its enemies. Multiculturalism is an ideology to end all other ideologies, and these totalitarian aspirations permit us to draw two conclusions: First, multiculturalism must eliminate all opposition everywhere. There can be no safe havens for counter-revolutionaries. Second, once it is established the multicultural paradise must be defended at all costs. Orthodoxy must be maintained with all the resources of the state.
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Since you appear to be planning on staying..

Please at least do the courtesy of going to the Introduction Forum and introducing yourself to the Board.

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Old 03-24-2006, 10:39 PM   #3
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Since you appear to be planning on staying..

Please at least do the courtesy of going to the Introduction Forum and introducing yourself to the Board.

Thanks.
No probs by the way though you may not know it I have learned alot from the people here and have changed things that I believed in before I came here. This has been probably the most interesting places I've been too and I've been surprised on a daily basis.

I'll go ahead and do what I probably shouldve done in the first place.

Thanks for keeping me in check.
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Old 03-24-2006, 11:17 PM   #4
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Right on.

Though I may not agree with most of your opinions, I do appreciate your efforts to remain respectful to our members. Which is more than you can say for most of the other people who meandered over here from that other site.

This is a wonderful place, and it is full of wonderful people.

Some of the brightest minds I know, circulate these forums.

I have learned a wealth of knowledge from many of them.




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Old 03-24-2006, 11:53 PM   #5
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Right on.

Though I may not agree with most of your opinions, I do appreciate your efforts to remain respectful to our members. Which is more than you can say for most of the other people who meandered over here from that other site.

This is a wonderful place, and it is full of wonderful people.

Some of the brightest minds I know, circulate these forums.

I have learned a wealth of knowledge from many of them.




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You know I have to agree. There are some really great minds here and I have learned alot. I really am going through a process right now and Im learning alot. Im finding this place very interesting and am spending more time here then anywhere else. I dont seem to be posting anywhere else anymore and am trying to branch out more on the forum.

Its a good place. I dont know if you guys would like it but if I get the chance I'd like to let others know about this place. I mean like if there are some interviews in open situations like radio stations etc. Im getting the buzz that might happen so if it comes up in normal conversation I would like to say that I find good debates with the Goths at Goth.net but if you like keeping it real and underground I understand.

You know you peeps have changed my views on things. Im really in a phase where I want to explore and find out whats really going on. I was lied to for many years by different groups and I accepted those lies. Realising that I could be fooled was humbling to me in an extreme way and makes me carefull of myself. I try and test my beliefs as much as possible.

Thanks for the interesting stuff
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Old 03-24-2006, 11:57 PM   #6
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I would like to say that I find good debates with the Goths at Goth.net but if you like keeping it real and underground I understand.
Just plug it right..

We're www.Gothic.net

Not Goth.net



That's another site altogether..
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Old 03-26-2006, 04:37 AM   #7
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i have a request.

if the initial post on this page is your own, more power to you. if it belongs to someone else, please give credit where credit is due. after all, we wouldn't want an inappropriate 'renaissance' here, would we?

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Old 03-26-2006, 01:06 PM   #8
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Why base your ideas on multi-cultralism on soviet Russia? Why not look at various governments and societys present in thodays world? I will again use Ireland as an example. We have a very small population of people from outside our country who reside here, but the number grows every year. We embrace it as our culture tells us to help out others. Tis why our social welfare system doesn't run out. Yes, people can take advantage of it, but the percent of those who do take advantage is very small (under 4%) because our culture tells us it's wrong. Outsiders coming in might hold different values, but once adapted to our culture, they retain many of the same values we have.

And we are a socialist government.

Of course the best part of living in a multi-cultural society in my opinion is the FOOD. Nothing like being able to partake in dishes that normally you can only see on the discovery channel. Same goes for various cultural celbrations, clothing style, and holidays. I spent two Christmas celebtrating with mates from Poland in a traditional polish Christmas event. It was much different from many western style celebrations.

Last Christmas I spent with mates from Russia. They too have different ideas, traditions, and many fun and exciting things they do on Christmas eve that I had never even heard of.

The best part of all Eastern European celbrations is of course, vodka.

Open a present, drink some vodka. East some food, drink some vodka, dance, drink some vodka. Sing some songs, drink some vodka. Well, you get the idea.

I also learned another important Russian word - 'bianasit' (sp?)

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Old 03-26-2006, 02:01 PM   #9
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One of the best features that I love about Australia, particularly the city Melbourne, is for it's strong multi-culturalism. Well, I remember at the age of four, multi-culturalism wasn't was obvious or as dominant as it is now. Multi-culturalism definitely has grown greatly within Australia for the past ten or twenty years.

Also, I love food here in Oz and I love the fact that there's an immense range of food stemed from various countries.
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Old 03-26-2006, 05:39 PM   #10
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I agree with E_E, this should be linked to a source. Whoever wrote this seems to still be living in the McCarthy era.
It's a large article with many points you have there so for now I'll just address what I think the main point is.

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The charge of “institutional racism” is no different from declaring an entire economic class an enemy of the people. “Racism” and “sexism” are multiculturalism’s assault weapons, its Big Ideas, just as class warfare was for Communists, and the effects are the same.
Class distinctions were used to inflict some horrible attrocities on the Russian people and the people in the former Eastern Bloc. There is no lie in that. Racism too has been the cause of numerous attrocities, throughout the globe.

The problems of racism and class distinction are similar. However I think that, to say that racism and the belief that racism exists is directly linked to some form of mind control, is... well... stupid.
Both of these problems are based on ignorance and paranoia. One is scared that the peasants will one day rise up again and destroy the leaders, the other one is scared that the other 'lesser' races will rise up and take power from us white people. Both are possible, don't get me wrong. But then it all depends on the PEOPLE who are in power, not the 'race'. The leaders of every 'race' on earth are capable of horrendous acts. Everyone knows that. It doesn't matter what colour they are. Our job is to ensure that the best people for the top jobs are in power. That is easier said than done, but that's another story.

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And once enough people have been conditioned this way, violence is no longer necessary.
Whoever wrote this can go play humungous army battles in his/her sandpit then. Wouldn't that be grand!
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Old 03-26-2006, 06:24 PM   #11
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Sorry I didnt post the link I'm just getting back to you guys after some studio time and stuff and am getting ready for a release of some new music in about 6 hours. I'll post the link - gotta find it I think I got it off of AMren but not sure as I'm all over the place.

Some other thoughts:

I think the idea that the "Race card" is used for control is valid. Right now in LA we are experiancing serious conflict on a scale I have never heard of. There were 500,000 pissed of people demonstrating that they dont want limits on the boarder or with Illegals. This is exactly what happens when you have a Multicultural society. Competing tribes and people want things that are in conflict with each other. The "race card" is used by each group to get what they want untill each group no longer bows to trick. Then it becomes all out conflict. Sadly where I'm at is ready to implode. We had race riots in the schools again this week and some students were stabed. Hundreds of students involved sadly and then there was the half million downtown that totally crushed traffic and pushed back my studio time by 3 hours cuz my tech was in the middle of the traffic. This is not going to get better because one group of people is getting much stronger (illegal aliens) and are stepping on another group (Americans) and both groups are getting to the point where they no longer want to back down. This is how Multiculturalism eventually plays out sadly - everybody doing there best to get everything they can for their group and as long as the domminant group is willing to give this can work and also if you have enough recourses to keep everyone happey but once the dominant group doesnt want to play along or their or not enough resources forcing all groups to compete on an aggresive level you will have aggression.

I have talked to many of my latino friends in the neighborhood and at first they had deffiant anger about the issue based solely on their side of the argument untill I gave them that arguement. They then were like me and were saddened by the fact that there is not much that can be done. You can blame one side but in the end both sides are doing whats best for them and both's sides best interests are in conflict so there will be conflict. Once it was put to them like that they agreed and we are all fearfull at this time.

We know we are in ground zero and are hopefull that when things get really crazy that we are spared.
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Old 03-26-2006, 06:46 PM   #12
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Another thought is that Multiculturalism is one thing when it is 4% of the population but when it is 40% as it is on course to become in almost all White countries then it becomes another thing entirely. When 4% of the population is different then they can assimilate because they have to. When they are 40% of the population then they dont have to and they will begin making demands like they are in many parts of many white countries. In many cases when they become 90+% non-white areas they can then make the demand that this is our land and this is a no-go area for anyone that is not of our tribe as is the case in almost every white country that has communities that are 90+% non-white.

Remember that whites are the only tribe on the planet practicing this religion. No other tribe at all is practicing this, not one.

That FACT should make you pause.

Lets also look at future demographics. The multicultural areas you guys are talking about have majority white populations. But history and current birth trends would suggest that Whites will flee at some point and non-whites will dominate through explosive birth rates and immigration policies. So you will like these areas just as much when whites are pretty much replaced? This would suggest bias to me in that whites are simply not that interesting or worthy of being their in the first place at least not in their current numbers. If you respected the white demographic then you would want to hault non-white immigration as white birth rates cannot compete and so left to its own right now the white demographic will be obliterated due to nature.

Many of you will say so what we will be a grey race over time. I say no the white nations may be grey over time but the black, asian, Indian nations will be intact as they want no part in this experiment.
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Old 03-26-2006, 07:01 PM   #13
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Here is a song for you 4mytribe, it's called PARANOID by Black Sabath.

Finished with my woman 'cause she couldn't help me with my mind
people think I'm insane because I am frowning all the time
All day long I think of things but nothing seems to satisfy
Think I'll lose my mind if I don't find something to pacify

Can you help me occupy my brain?
Oh yeah

I need someone to show me the things in life that I can't find
I can't see the things that make true happiness, I must be blind

Make a joke and I will sigh and you will laugh and I will cry
Happiness I cannot feel and love to me is so unreal

And so as you hear these words telling you now of my state
I tell you to enjoy life I wish I could but it's too late


Don't be paranoid, ok?
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Old 03-26-2006, 07:14 PM   #14
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The "white nations" being the ones where the white people you are so proud of took over and attempted to annihilate the native peoples? Cuz that's what America is, as well as Australia.
What about Sweeden and Iceland or Germany or France. All white countries now have Multicultural Institions but no non-white countries. How odd. I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. When I refer to a white nation I refer to a white majority nation as all tribes have killed and gone to war over land.
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Old 03-26-2006, 07:17 PM   #15
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Here is a song for you 4mytribe, it's called PARANOID by Black Sabath.

Finished with my woman 'cause she couldn't help me with my mind
people think I'm insane because I am frowning all the time
All day long I think of things but nothing seems to satisfy
Think I'll lose my mind if I don't find something to pacify

Can you help me occupy my brain?
Oh yeah

I need someone to show me the things in life that I can't find
I can't see the things that make true happiness, I must be blind

Make a joke and I will sigh and you will laugh and I will cry
Happiness I cannot feel and love to me is so unreal

I used to play that song on the drums. Paranoid? Try having half a million pissed off people demonstrating in your town and tell me how confident you feel? Or the race riots yet again this week in the schools or the fact that most of my neighbors are worried irregarless of their race. We just want our neighborhood safe and are hopefull.


And so as you hear these words telling you now of my state
I tell you to enjoy life I wish I could but it's too late


Don't be paranoid, ok?

500,000 demonstrators and race riots yet again in the schools. yeah Im scared
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Old 03-26-2006, 07:19 PM   #16
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I see... And South Africa would be...?
Majority non-white and now firmly taken over by the majority which is natural. If one looks at the Government it is virtually 100% black as is only natural.
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Old 03-26-2006, 07:30 PM   #17
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You really piss me off, so I'm just gonna go ahead and stop responding.
I appologize and that is not my intension. I really like your posts as you have the best arguments. I will miss your posts.
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Old 03-26-2006, 07:50 PM   #18
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I just meant for now. I'm pretty hormonal. And crabby as fuck.
Me too

Its cool I respect you and this board and actually I feel more comfy here than anywhere else and dont wanna get kicked

Hey on another note I'll be releasing a song in about 4 hours if thats too late for you PM me if your interested and I can email it to you. Im am concerned about this release because this is the first song in 3 years that I have gone into studio and it begins my new sound. In addition the first cut makes me nervous as I find flaws but there where so many problems going in but studio tech is mastering some more right now and may be done in about a couple hours so dunno.

Plus I never trust myself 100%. I trust the listeners. They know the best

I do know this that the sound I'm looking for is a quest and will be my own and will not happen right away. We did our best under the circumstances (there were some demonstrations and stuff in LA that really threw off our plans).

I hope that people will like it. It will get better from here for quite awhile as we feel it out and tune into exactly what it is that I'm going for.

Dont stop posting as you make me think and question.

besides like most people here your fun.
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Old 03-26-2006, 08:25 PM   #19
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Its cool I respect you and this board and actually I feel more comfy here than anywhere else and dont wanna get kicked
you're in no danger of being "kicked", 4mytribe - not as long as your words force us to face our inner demons. after all, when words inspire anger, what does that mean? that perhaps we, as a people, are seeing pieces of ourself we don't want to face? that we are seeing pieces of the world we know are separate from our belief system? that we are being exposed to pieces of modern thought we don't want to admit to inside of ourselves?

diversity of opinion, diversity of thought, diversity of existence - it's all as important as diversity of a people, in my opinion. i dig your posts, whether or not i agree with the content.

and your initial post comes from an amren.com article.
http://www.amren.com/9911issue/9911issue.html

please make sure you cite your cources in the future. do not adopt the words of others as your own. that is frowned upon here, just as it is in the real world.
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you're in no danger of being "kicked", 4mytribe - not as long as your words force us to face our inner demons. after all, when words inspire anger, what does that mean? that perhaps we, as a people, are seeing pieces of ourself we don't want to face? that we are seeing pieces of the world we know are separate from our belief system? that we are being exposed to pieces of modern thought we don't want to admit to inside of ourselves?

diversity of opinion, diversity of thought, diversity of existence - it's all as important as diversity of a people, in my opinion. i dig your posts, whether or not i agree with the content.

and your initial post comes from an amren.com article.
http://www.amren.com/9911issue/9911issue.html

please make sure you cite your cources in the future. do not adopt the words of others as your own. that is frowned upon here, just as it is in the real world.

Thanks man I forgot where I got it from and I replied about that to you cuz I was doing alot of studio work and stuff but thats the site I thought I got it from.

I really didnt mean for it to sound like that was me but then if anyone has read my posts they should know that my grammer and such isnt enough to do that so I didnt think anyone would ever mistake me for whoever did that. As is the case.

About an hour more and I get a copy from the studio.

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Old 03-26-2006, 09:40 PM   #21
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... but then if anyone has read my posts they should know that my grammer and such isnt enough to do that ...
that's not a valid argument for not citing sources.

if i copy your work from the studio and put in on my website without identifying you as the creator, is that ok simply because i believe others will understand i couldn't possibly be the one to have made it?

you're intelligent enough to know your argument was faulty. i trust it won't happen again.
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Old 03-27-2006, 02:03 AM   #22
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All white countries now have Multicultural Institions but no non-white countries. How odd. I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.
That's not true. Every foreign country (I'm Australian, but have travelled extensively throughout Asia) I have ever been to has a number of institutions that are geared towards multiculturlism and/or cultural exchange. I can post websites if you'd like.
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Why is communism blamed for everything?

And I hope I can say with some certainty that guilt did not start with Soviet Russia.
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Communism is just one of those things that looks good on paper, but doesn't work in real life.
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Xng -

Thats soooo 80's. Get with the double 0's! Now it's those damn Muslims! Build yerself a bomb shelter as they are soon going to have nukes and no one will be safe! Duck and cover!
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