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03-31-2009, 11:59 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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I like musicals...but I have to be in the mood for them...which only happens once in a blue moon.
So yeah.
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04-01-2009, 12:33 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Australia
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Originally Posted by HavelockV
Oh, come now, Les Miserables is not all that bad. After all, you could be forced to watch Wicked, instead. Now there's a fine example of a musical travesty.
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Well you know, the show I saw of Wicked was fucking amazing, it achieved everything it set out to achieve, which was to be catchy, fun, and memorable.
Of course the best show I've ever seen wasn't a musical, it was an opera of Through the Looking Glass.
If I can ever manage to see the Nibelung Saga then I'll be content.
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04-01-2009, 06:31 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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I like musicals.
I can sorta see why people would hate them, but I don't. Even really awful ones are fun to see at the theatre, methinks. There's just so much energy. The general atmosphere's always nice.
As for Sweeney Todd, I've only seen videos of the Broadway performances. I intend to see a version of it one of these days.
Operas are better, but still.
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04-01-2009, 06:41 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: the concrete and steel beehive of Southern California
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Phantom of the Paradise!
and yeah, JC Superstar, Guys and Dolls, West Side Story...there are a lot of great musicals which were enjoyable, as Havelock said, because of the abilities of the actors.
Marlon Brando actually wasn't that bad of a singer.
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04-01-2009, 06:57 AM
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#30
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Australia
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they're ok.
I was surprised with sweeney todd.
I couldn't get over how happy it made me feel. the outfits and certain lines...
just the way he said ' AND THE TOWN WAS FULL OF SHITTT!'
(:
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04-01-2009, 07:19 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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"There's a hole in the world like a great black pit, and it's filled with people who are filled with shit", perhaps?
Haha.
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04-01-2009, 07:25 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Bangkok
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Quote:
Originally Posted by girasol
they're ok.
I was surprised with sweeney todd.
I couldn't get over how happy it made me feel. the outfits and certain lines...
just the way he said ' AND THE TOWN WAS FULL OF SHITTT!'
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Loved that movie!!
Burton rules !!!!!
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04-01-2009, 07:48 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,687
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Originally Posted by Saya
I've read the play, and sadly there was no mention of a musical number at the end.
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There are no stage directions in any of Shakespeare save for exits and entrances, however scholarship has determined which plays contained songs.
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Please tell me there was one also at the end of Macbeth. With jazz hands.
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Actually, the Hectate scene in Macbeth is musical, but it's an addition not authored by Shakespeare, widely accounted to Thomas Middleton, possibly an excerpt from his play The Witch. In short, the most widely read text of Macbeth is a version edited to be more 'fun' by a theatre director who might have, in another time, worn pink nail polish.
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Originally Posted by LC
Was Lestat a musical when it was on Broadway?
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I actually saw it. It was hilarious, but not as hilarious as Frank Wildhorn's Dracula musical, which featured the count plodding across the stage screeching "FRESH BLOOOOD! I NEED FRESH BLOOOOOOD!"
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04-01-2009, 08:42 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: New England
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Originally Posted by gothicusmaximus
I actually saw it. It was hilarious, but not as hilarious as Frank Wildhorn's Dracula musical, which featured the count plodding across the stage screeching "FRESH BLOOOOD! I NEED FRESH BLOOOOOOD!"
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Oh Wow. I'd probably burst out laughing at that point... that's horrible!
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04-01-2009, 08:50 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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I laughed pretty consistently through the entire first act.
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04-01-2009, 08:52 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: United States
Posts: 340
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Originally Posted by HumanePain
Phantom of the Paradise!
and yeah, JC Superstar, ... there are a lot of great musicals which were enjoyable, as Havelock said, because of the abilities of the actors.
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You mention two excellent musicals which I am fond of. My compliments on your taste. *hat tip*
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Well you know, the show I saw of Wicked was fucking amazing, it achieved everything it set out to achieve, which was to be catchy, fun, and memorable.
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Generally speaking I am not very fond of shows that are reminiscent of a Disney theme park attraction, which is how I perceive Wicked. I confess that the constant and pervasive frequency with which the drama students at my university would suddenly burst out singing 'Popular' and 'Defying Gravity' during social gatherings did little to improve my view. But again, here is a question of personal preference.
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04-01-2009, 09:09 AM
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#37
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: New England
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Originally Posted by HavelockV
Generally speaking I am not very fond of shows that are reminiscent of a Disney theme park attraction, which is how I perceive Wicked. I confess that the constant and pervasive frequency with which the drama students at my university would suddenly burst out singing 'Popular' and 'Defying Gravity' during social gatherings did little to improve my view. But again, here is a question of personal preference.
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Wicked was big at my school too... then again, so was Grease and West Side Story and BLAH BLAH BLAH! The stories there to me serve little interest as far as the high school cliques and gangs that dance and other such nonsense... I prefer Phantom of the Opera, The Producers, Les Mis, and other such things...
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04-01-2009, 03:11 PM
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#38
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Australia
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Defying Gravity was THE song that made Wicked for me, the rest of the songs were catchy and made you wanna dance a little at times but Defying Gravity was something.
Contrary to a lot of folks, I hate West Side Story, it pissed me off.
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04-01-2009, 04:55 PM
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#39
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by a morbid curiosity
"There's a hole in the world like a great black pit, and it's filled with people who are filled with shit", perhaps?
Haha.
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Yeah, that one.
(:
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04-01-2009, 05:42 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Southern California
Posts: 501
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gothicusmaximus got it right. While there is no stage direction that implies that there is going to be a music there is singing in several acts but still why make it into a number. I understand why there is singing but why dancing? I just personally think that it takes away from the lines. Spoken word is easier to understand than when it is sung.
It is ultimatly up to the director if there should be music or for that fact if it should be sung at all. I've seen several productions of Shakespeare where any singing is cut out of the script which IMHO is the way it should be. Shakespeare is known more for his writing than he is for his music.
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04-01-2009, 05:53 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Athens, GA
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I personally really like Chicago as a musical. The movie didn't seem melodramatic or over-the-top to me except that the character strove to be such in order to grab attention to herself. The story seemed pretty low-key to me in comparison to other musicals in that it wasn't cheesy and dramatic without reason.
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04-01-2009, 10:46 PM
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#42
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 182
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I enjoy the music from Jekyll and Hyde...
You seem like the type who woulndn't enjoy EVil Dead the Musical.
But i love musicals. Sorry they don't catch your fancy. The ones you named weren't the greatest, but it's not to see there are SOME aren't there you like.
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04-01-2009, 11:32 PM
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#43
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: New England
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyre
I personally really like Chicago as a musical. The movie didn't seem melodramatic or over-the-top to me except that the character strove to be such in order to grab attention to herself. The story seemed pretty low-key to me in comparison to other musicals in that it wasn't cheesy and dramatic without reason.
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I can agree with that.
Hedwig and the Angry Inch is really good too!
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04-02-2009, 09:26 AM
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#44
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: R'lyeh
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Les Misérables fucking ruled.
I saw it at The Queens Theatre in London.
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04-02-2009, 09:53 AM
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#45
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Southern California
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The longer this thread goes the more I think I do like musicals but I haven't had a good exposure to it thus far.
Keep in mind I've been dragged to a lot of bad musicals in my time. The one that ultimatly killed it for me was Rent (The only reason why I saw it was because some of my school mates wanted to see it). OH GOD! Bad music, bad scriptwriting and (when I saw it) bad acting plus it's stereotypicaly gay. It traumatized me on musicals since then but now that I'm reading these posts I'm deffinatly reconsidering. I've always wanted to see Les Misérables...
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04-02-2009, 11:16 AM
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#46
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Oslo, Norway
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I saw a -really- good production of Les Mis in Trondheim some years ago, and it had me burst into tears several times. Then I saw it again here in Oslo a month ago, with the same actor playing the male lead, and it was absolutely horrible. Musicals really bring out the best and the worst in a director; they´re very artistically demanding. I should know, I was cast as Mrs. Sherman in "Fame the Musical" a year ago. There are quite a lot of musicals with lots of depth to them - Show Boat being a prime example. No wonder it was controversial in its day. Perhaps you should just watch a few more before deeming them the Work of the Devil (tm).
And, historically speaking, musicals evolved from the operetta. Now if you´ve ever seen "Die Fledermaus" or pretty much anything composed by Strauss, you will see where many musicals got their fluffiness/ airheadedness from. xD
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04-02-2009, 01:47 PM
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#47
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: New England
Posts: 213
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Originally Posted by eternalcrimson
The longer this thread goes the more I think I do like musicals but I haven't had a good exposure to it thus far.
Keep in mind I've been dragged to a lot of bad musicals in my time. The one that ultimatly killed it for me was Rent (The only reason why I saw it was because some of my school mates wanted to see it). OH GOD! Bad music, bad scriptwriting and (when I saw it) bad acting plus it's stereotypicaly gay. It traumatized me on musicals since then but now that I'm reading these posts I'm deffinatly reconsidering. I've always wanted to see Les Misérables...
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Keeping an open mind is key, well that and remembering that the musical lovers tend to disown High school Musical as anything remotely decent.
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04-02-2009, 02:28 PM
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#48
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: New York
Posts: 46
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Sound of Music and I go way back...I like a lot of musicals actually. Can't stand Oklahoma.
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04-02-2009, 07:49 PM
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#49
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 9,548
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zebra
Sound of Music and I go way back...I like a lot of musicals actually. Can't stand Oklahoma.
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Oooh, that reminds me! Fiddler On The Roof is awesome too! I forgot about that, I lent my copy to a friend and haven't seen it in months. Its on the list of movies that can make me cry.
It reminded me because as kids my sister and I always fought over what movies to watch, Sound Of Music vs Fiddler On The Roof was usually the argument when we wanted to watch a musical. She'd end up taking the Fiddler cassette out of the vcr while I was watching it and put the Sound of Music in, the bitch.
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04-03-2009, 01:38 AM
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#50
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In Antarctica with the Penguins
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Originally Posted by Saya
I do like a lot of them. I saw The Rocky Horror Show recently and I had the time of my life. I saw Grease last year and it was "meh." I haven't seen it performed yet but Jesus Christ Superstar still remains the best Biblical movie IMO.
But yeah, As You Like It having a musical number just sounds retarded.
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Saya... I only have 4 words for you apart from (Watch this asap) And those 4 words are...
Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter (And yes it's a musical)
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Originally Posted by Lady Christine
I wish I could make up her stories, she was insane. She was convinced two dragon statues in front of her house guarded the house with a forcefeild.
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Too build on Ophelia's perception of a lie...
All that comes to mind now is Don Quixote...
ALSO.... I'll say my top 3 favorite musicals of all time..
"Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog" (If you haven't yet... watch it now.. no srsly. Now)
"Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter"
and "Newsies"
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