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Old 05-09-2012, 12:09 PM   #226
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Versus. How can a bot be racist?
Haven't you seen Michael Bay's Transformers?
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Old 05-09-2012, 12:39 PM   #227
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:50 PM   #228
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Haven't you seen Michael Bay's Transformers?
One of the stereotypical autobots has a fucking gold tooth.

Robots are a product of systemic oppression just as much as humans are. Anything that interacts with the system is vulnerable.
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Uh. I understand that Transformers is racist. How is the spambot racist?
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Because Versus is constructist. He's making sweeping generalizations about robots and arguing that just because something is made, and not born, that it is somehow MORE susceptible to influence from society. Fucking bullshit.
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Versus, you can have my troll card.
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Old 05-09-2012, 06:29 PM   #232
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I AM NOT A TROLL. Don't marginalize me.

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Old 05-09-2012, 06:36 PM   #233
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So I practically just spent an hour reading this whole thread.

I kinda feel like crying now.
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Old 05-09-2012, 06:40 PM   #234
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I AM NOT A TROLL. Don't marginalize me.

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You're not a cyborg. You're a robot. Huge difference. Get a soul first and then we'll talk about you having the privilege to be a troll.
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Old 05-09-2012, 06:43 PM   #235
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So I practically just spent an hour reading this whole thread.

I kinda feel like crying now.
What's wrong baby girl? ):
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Old 05-10-2012, 02:24 AM   #236
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So I practically just spent an hour reading this whole thread.

I kinda feel like crying now.
I'd like it if you would share what you think.
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Old 05-10-2012, 02:46 AM   #237
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You're not a cyborg. You're a robot. Huge difference. Get a soul first and then we'll talk about you having the privilege to be a troll.
Yes. Because I need to validate myself according to the arbitrary definition of personhood mandated by the de facto overlord of this forum.

How about this; You show me that there is such a thing as a soul before you tell me that I need one to be your equal.

P.S. Robot is my fucking word. Not yours.
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Old 05-11-2012, 06:13 AM   #238
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When I raise my voice, other people recognize my anger instead of dismissing me as hysterical or uppity.

When I speak, other people are willing to accept that I am speaking from a point of logic instead of one from emotion.

When I am faced with something physically challenging, other people take it at face value as something genuinely challenging instead of assuming that I am weak.

When I do something with my phone while driving, other people will forgive me instead of ostracizing my irresponsibility.

When I give my word of commitment, other people trust me instead of wondering if children will cause me to break that commitment.

When I do not pay attention to my appearance before I leave the house, other people will value me the same instead of thinking less of me.

It's really weird. When I make it personal, it means more then when I think "women have to deal with this or that."
Good list, and good exercise in general. To be honest, gay and female friends are constantly making me aware of my male & straight privilege, but this thread has sparked off the creeping awareness that I A) haven't really had a close non-white friend since college, and B) hadn't realized just how much I was taking for granted until y'all started slapping the shit out of one another.

I totally need to do me a white privilege one of those.
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Sorry, what

Sorry, what you mean?
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Old 06-10-2012, 04:11 PM   #240
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So guess what local last hope for revolution just posted an Ayn Rand video on its facebook?
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Old 06-13-2012, 02:16 AM   #241
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Was it Occupy Newfoundland?
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So I practically just spent an hour reading this whole thread.

I kinda feel like crying now.
Me too. *hugs* (but only if you want them)

Discussions about privilege always wear me down to a nubbins.
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Man Occupy Newfoundland must completely BLOW. I'm sorry you have to deal with those dipshits.

In other news OWS has it's first semi-official candidate for Congress on the Democratic Ticket:

http://campaigns.occupy.net/bumrushthevote/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4gIEssnjqQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8ZbTt1cCTI

On a side note I can't believe we actually have an "Ambassador of Hip-Hop" as an actual United States government position. That's so fucking cool.
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Old 06-13-2012, 11:16 AM   #244
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That's it.

I suggest we counter-protest Occupy Newfoundland.

Saya, how viable would it be to do that?
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Oh man, that's BRILLIANT.

Seriously, you guys need to do that. Hit those dipshits with charges of privilege, misogyny and white-hegemony and the media will ZERO-IN on that shit, the blowback will probably drift down here to NYC and force Occupy to figure out how to deal with other occupations.

Do you think this is something your groups can do Saya?
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:08 PM   #246
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To be fair, it was the admin of the group and no one was having it, which was nice at least.

But he did say that despite the problematic things she said there's things we can learn from her.

Anyway, ON got a polite notice of eviction from city council saying its tourist season now so they should leave, and they politely got up and left. Its only a small group so I'm wondering how it'll survive at all.
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Yeah, but you could technically learn the same kind of "self reliance" from the likes of Christopher Hitchens and AT LEAST he was from what I understand a proponent of raising awareness for women's rights and he wasn't nearly as draconian as Rand.
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Old 06-14-2012, 03:39 AM   #248
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Yeah, but you could technically learn the same kind of "self reliance" from the likes of Christopher Hitchens and AT LEAST he was from what I understand a proponent of raising awareness for women's rights and he wasn't nearly as draconian as Rand.
Not nearly, but his war mongering and misogynistic comments about specific women, even if he supported women's rights theoretically, makes me give him such a side eye.
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