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Politics "Under democracy, one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule -and both commonly succeed, and are right."
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09-24-2007, 03:00 PM
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Stereotyping
I don't know if this is necessarily a political topic but I think it would be interesting to hear what people have to say.
Topics of debate:
Stereotyping as a natural human instinct
Is stereotyping wrong
And Why do people stereotype.
I will be back at the end of the day to see what I get.
Have fun and please be nice.
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09-24-2007, 03:02 PM
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FM sounds way better. Too bad it doesn't go as far.
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09-24-2007, 03:03 PM
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FM meaning?
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09-24-2007, 03:06 PM
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Frequency Modulation. Of course, it's been more the standard because it's newer, instead of people going back and trying to revise AM. It's damn ageism!
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09-24-2007, 03:25 PM
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I don't think they get the joke delicti
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09-24-2007, 03:58 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: New England
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Quote:
Originally Posted by linkbroken
And Why do people stereotype.
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Because no matter how much you say "stereotypes are bad," you will always find people who fit the stereotype.
Like there's this stereotype about metalheads not being all that bright...
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09-24-2007, 04:21 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Canada, BC
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It's funny that someone like linkbroken would make a thread about stereotypes when I just read her message that tops them all.
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09-24-2007, 08:28 PM
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I'm not a girl
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09-24-2007, 08:49 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: New England
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Quote:
Originally Posted by linkbroken
I'm not a girl
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That's odd, I thought the same thing, something about you must just read as effeminate.
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09-24-2007, 08:53 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: El Paso, Texas/ Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua
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Quote:
Originally Posted by linkbroken
I'm not a girl
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Why do you take it as offense?
Oh, right, you also think 'gay' is something bad, I remember...
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09-24-2007, 09:18 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: UK
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Everyone stereotypes even when they say that they don't, (you did it, we have proof.) Get over it.
It's such a regurgitated topic, i'm fed up of hearing about it.
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09-26-2007, 06:10 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: New England
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollins
I don't think they get the joke delicti
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I forget that sometimes it's not a matter of going over someone's head as much as there isn't anything there to catch it in the first place. ;-)
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09-26-2007, 07:10 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by delicti
I forget that sometimes it's not a matter of going over someone's head as much as there isn't anything there to catch it in the first place. ;-)
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hahahaha, to be fair, it is a pretty weird joke :P
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10-05-2007, 11:12 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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If you hate it, don't post. Unless you're a spammer.
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10-05-2007, 11:29 PM
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Hey, Mr. Puppeteer, show me exactly when anyone mentioned he hates this thread.
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02-02-2008, 07:27 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Baltimore Md
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Stereotyping
If people could just see things as they are then there would be no need to stereotype. But thats to much like right.
Heres a Question for you. Is there such thing as a good steretype?
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02-02-2008, 08:16 PM
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Stereotyping is just pattern recognition applied to humans. The basic process is sound. The problem comes in when the stereotype picks up too much affect to be overriden despite contrary evidence or change in circumstance, gets tangled up with an ideology, becomes the basis for social engineering, etc. And in the broaders sense, even the perfectly logical application of accurate stereotypes can have negative effects from a social perspective, such as perpetuating the cycles that give rise to the stereotypes in the first place.
The currently in vogue brainwashing approach to the problem, in which we all demand of each other that we suppress and extirpate our own stereotype-based thinking is, however, not a solution. It's our era's equivalent of the early Christian mortifying the flesh, or if you prefer a modern example, the Catholic priest who isn't allowed to be with women and can't keep his hands off the little boys.
Drake
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02-02-2008, 09:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drake Dun
Stereotyping is just pattern recognition applied to humans.
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That's discrimination.
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I cleave to no system. I am a true seeker."
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Originally Posted by George Carlin
People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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02-02-2008, 11:22 PM
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Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
That's discrimination.
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A Mexican would say that.
Drake
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02-02-2008, 11:47 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: El Paso, Texas/ Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua
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You win
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This time!
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"No theory, no ready-made system, no book that has ever been written will save the world.
I cleave to no system. I am a true seeker."
-Mikhail Bakunin
Quote:
Originally Posted by George Carlin
People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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02-04-2008, 09:01 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
You win
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This time!
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Buahaha. Wait... does this mean I should be watching my back?
Drake
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02-04-2008, 06:46 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: El Paso, Texas/ Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua
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Yes. Beware, for we are many, and we are everywhere:
Mowing your lawns, cleaning your dishes, ironing your clothes, dong the housekeeping in your Holiday Inns.
Oh wait, you live in Japan, nevermind.
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"No theory, no ready-made system, no book that has ever been written will save the world.
I cleave to no system. I am a true seeker."
-Mikhail Bakunin
Quote:
Originally Posted by George Carlin
People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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02-04-2008, 07:48 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Canada, BC
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Fucking jews at it again
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02-04-2008, 09:06 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Graveyard.Crow
Fucking jews at it again
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You must hate us Jews..being superior to you and all.
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02-07-2008, 07:03 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Baltimore Md
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Stereotyping
I do think you hit it right... on the subject
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drake Dun
Stereotyping is just pattern recognition applied to humans. The basic process is sound. The problem comes in when the stereotype picks up too much affect to be overriden despite contrary evidence or change in circumstance, gets tangled up with an ideology, becomes the basis for social engineering, etc. And in the broaders sense, even the perfectly logical application of accurate stereotypes can have negative effects from a social perspective, such as perpetuating the cycles that give rise to the stereotypes in the first place.
The currently in vogue brainwashing approach to the problem, in which we all demand of each other that we suppress and extirpate our own stereotype-based thinking is, however, not a solution. It's our era's equivalent of the early Christian mortifying the flesh, or if you prefer a modern example, the Catholic priest who isn't allowed to be with women and can't keep his hands off the little boys.
Drake
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