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04-26-2006, 06:16 AM
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That was what my imagination spit out when I gave it...
Keanu Reeves + Shakespeare = ?
Not that I would ever wish for such an atrocity, Rose.
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04-26-2006, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TwistedKitsune
: I had far, far too much fun playing as Kat
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I'll bet you did! Boy, I would've loved to have watched you!
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04-26-2006, 04:40 PM
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Ok wait....cause I know that's from Hamlet.
Am I missing a joke here angel?
To be, or not to be, there's the point.....
I have to be missing a joke or a refrence or something....
help....... ......... ...............
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04-27-2006, 09:53 AM
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Cool. Never read the Foilos. But then my study of Shakespeare is much different than most people. While I was in High School we read the standards...Romeo and Juliet and Hamlet. But the vast majority of my knowledge of Shakespeare is 6 years of Renaissance fair with people who could and would recite entire acts, and a Theater degree. But while I did study Shakespeare extensively in college, I was looking at him from the back stage...where I was, building the sets and props.
It's a shame really. I like his stuff...no doubt. My problem is I just CAN'T read him. Drives me crazy. I have to watch it to be able to understand it. If I sit down and try to just read his plays I get totally lost, bogged down in the language. It doesn't really have to be staged, and I assure you I can tell a good performance from a bad one, but I just have to have it read aloud, preferably while I'm not involved.
Just so you know angel…sometimes when people ask for help…they aren’t insulting you, they’re just asking for help
*ponders her latest sacrilege*
*Shrugs it off and walks away.*
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04-27-2006, 10:04 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Anyone read A Thousand Acres, by Jane Smilie? It's an updated, contemporary take on the King Lear story, told from the two elder daughters' point of view and utilising the theories that Lear committted incest with them and that's why they hate him so much. It's well worth a read, especially if you read King Lear and think they're just a nasty pair of bitches.
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04-27-2006, 03:50 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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It's no big thing.
But here's a thought. Why would I go out on the internet to research something when I can just ask you? Especially since you seem to know sooooooo much about the subject and research on the web takes soooooo much time.
I get the response though. I've noticed that people around here are quick to flame, though to be fair people are also quick to take offence.
Reminds me of life.
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08-09-2009, 04:46 PM
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Romeo And Juliet.
Mercutio:
Without his roe, like a dried herring. O flesh, flesh, how art thou fishified! Now is he for the numbers that Petrarch flowed in. Laura, to his lady, was a kitchen wench. Dido a dowdy, Cleopatra a gipsy, Helen and Hero hildings and harlots, Thisbe a grey eye or so, but not to the purpose.
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Juliet:
Wash they his wounds with tears? Mine shall be spent
When theirs are dry, for Romeo's banishment.
Take up those cords. Poor ropes, you are beguiled.
Both you and I, for Romeo is exiled.
He made you for a highway to my bed.
But I, a maid, die maiden-widowed.
Come, cords; come Nurse; I'll to my wedding bed, and death, not Romeo, take my maidenhead.
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Romeo:
Being but heavy, I will bear the light.
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12-26-2009, 10:11 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Baltimore
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One of my personal favorites is not from Shaekspeare, but rather inspired by him. It froms from the play: Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead, by Tom Stoppard.
The Player: We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.
Guildenstern: Is that what people want?
The Player: It's what we do.
There is also this from the same play:
Rosencrantz: Do you want to play questions?
Guildenstern: How do you play that?
Rosencrantz: You have to ask a question.
Guildenstern: Statement. One - Love.
Rosencrantz: Cheating.
Guildenstern: How?
Rosencrantz: I haven't started yet.
Guildenstern: Statement. Two - Love.
Rosencrantz: Are you counting that?
Guildenstern: What?
Rosencrantz: Are you counting that?
Guildenstern: Foul. No repetition. Three - Love and game.
Rosencrantz: I'm not going to play if you're going to be like that.
- Wolve
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12-26-2009, 11:34 PM
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To be or not to be – that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles
And, by opposing, end them. To die, to sleep
No more – and by a sleep to say we end
The heartache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to – ‘tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wished. To die, to sleep
To sleep, perchance to dream. Ay, there's the rub,
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
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When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause. There's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life.
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
Th’ oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of despised love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office, and the spurns
That patient merit of th’ unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? Who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscovered country from whose bourn
No traveler returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all,
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pitch and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action
(Small disagreements like does/doth, pitch/pith etc. have been raging in said article. I didn't have the original in my favourites' section, so I took it from Wikipedia.)
This is my favourite one of the ones' I heard or read.
I love it so much that I memorized it all once.
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12-27-2009, 04:42 AM
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Did anyone see the Royal Shakespeare Co's Hamlet with David Tennant yesterday? Absolutely fucking brilliant. He's perhaps a bit old for the role in my mind, but he really was excellent.
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12-27-2009, 05:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by All Shall Be Judged
Did anyone see the Royal Shakespeare Co's Hamlet with David Tennant yesterday? Absolutely fucking brilliant. He's perhaps a bit old for the role in my mind, but he really was excellent.
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The one where he wears a orange t-shirt? Brilliant, but the man does need to learn how to stand still from time to time.
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12-27-2009, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Methadrine
The one where he wears a orange t-shirt? Brilliant, but the man does need to learn how to stand still from time to time.
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Well, going slowly insane needn't mean going slowly. At least he didn't do the Doctor-esque cuts to shouts and yelps of varying volume (though I must confess I was almost expecting them at points).
All in all, I thought the caged tiger pacing (and occasional shadow-boxing) worked wonderfully in his depiction of a person climbing the walls of his own mind. He did a truly fantastic job. If only he were ten years younger I think I might pronounce the whole thing virtually flawless.
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12-28-2009, 07:11 PM
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I was out so I recorded it and just finished watching now - was very impressed. I didn't find him too old; he had just the right energy. Patrick Stewart was a pretty sensational Claudius as well.
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12-29-2009, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by sibyl vane.
I was out so I recorded it and just finished watching now - was very impressed. I didn't find him too old; he had just the right energy.
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Agreed, his performance was almost faultless. Hamlet's youth is a requirement of the text rather than a flaw in DT's delivery - think about how many times the word youth, or derivatives thereof, are uttered during the play (most frequently with reference to the eponymous Hamlet). It's a major theme which is so often overlooked in analysis, and even more so in performance. Still, as criticisms go, it's fairly minor here.
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12-29-2009, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by All Shall Be Judged
Agreed, his performance was almost faultless. Hamlet's youth is a requirement of the text rather than a flaw in DT's delivery - think about how many times the word youth, or derivatives thereof, are uttered during the play (most frequently with reference to the eponymous Hamlet). It's a major theme which is so often overlooked in analysis, and even more so in performance. Still, as criticisms go, it's fairly minor here.
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Ah right, OK - I didn't think of that because so many older guys have played Hamlet, haha.
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12-29-2009, 10:15 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Arkansas
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I don't remember any Shakespearean quotes, just Poe.
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01-18-2010, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by All Shall Be Judged
Agreed, his performance was almost faultless. Hamlet's youth is a requirement of the text rather than a flaw in DT's delivery - think about how many times the word youth, or derivatives thereof, are uttered during the play (most frequently with reference to the eponymous Hamlet). It's a major theme which is so often overlooked in analysis, and even more so in performance. Still, as criticisms go, it's fairly minor here.
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You're not wrong, but given that Hamlet would have been aged anywhere between 23 and 30, it's not like they picked a 30 yr old man to play Romeo or some shit.
I'll have to try to download this version. I'd imagine Tennant at his best would make a pretty cool Hamlet, and it's not often you go this googly-eyed over something. (Admittedly, you managed to manufacture a practically non-existent fault our of sheer pedantry, but I know you see it as a point of honor to find fault with everything ever made........ so the triviality of your criticism is pretty much a ringing endorsement in itself. ;] )
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01-18-2010, 08:21 AM
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A winking smiley? Do you want some Kleenex to clean up the spunk on your screen?
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01-18-2010, 03:41 PM
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He's trying to make his statement suggestive.
"I want to put my penis in your vagina... *WINK*... GET IT?"
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01-18-2010, 03:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wintermute
He's trying to make his statement suggestive.
"I want to put my penis in your vagina... *WINK*... GET IT?"
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He's trying to make his boring advances seem witty and risqué, unfortunately it's painfully clear that Judge has no room in her heart for any man other than me.
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01-18-2010, 04:01 PM
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Bro, this has gotta stop. I'm sorry you were born ten years too late for a woman who's started her period. I really am. But hating me is not gonna kill the fact that (and this is very important):
It's me she wants.
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01-18-2010, 04:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Apathy's_Child
Bro, this has gotta stop. I'm sorry you were born ten years too late for a woman who's started her period. I really am. But hating me is not gonna kill the fact that (and this is very important):
It's me she wants.
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This sort of delusional erotomania destroys lives, Tony, I recommend that you go and receive some form of extreme treatment while me and Judge work our way through the Kama Sutra and skip through fields of roses together.
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01-18-2010, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JCC
This sort of delusional erotomania destroys lives, Tony.
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Yeah.
Yours.
Excuse me while I go spank the Judge until she cries the sweet tears of surrender, for leading a young innocent on in such a heinous fashion.
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01-22-2010, 06:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Apathy's_Child
You're not wrong, but given that Hamlet would have been aged anywhere between 23 and 30, it's not like they picked a 30 yr old man to play Romeo or some shit.
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DT is pushing 40 - that's a ten-year discrepancy at least and a seventeen at most. So really, it basically IS like getting a 30 year old man to play Romeo.
Otherwise, carry on.
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01-22-2010, 01:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by All Shall Be Judged
DT is pushing 40 - that's a ten-year discrepancy at least and a seventeen at most.
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Actually I didn't realize he was almost 40, and was operating on the assumption that he's the 32 or so years old he looks to me. However, if his performance was really as good as you otherwise claim, this seizure on the difference a few years makes with an actor who doesn't look his age, and wouldn't be far out of the bracket even if he did, is pure pedantry. Normally I dig pedantry for its own sake with a more than willing perversity, but this is the motherfucking Doctor AND the goddamn Dane you're talking about, so let's keep it pertinent.
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Originally Posted by All Shall Be Judged
So really, it basically IS like getting a 30 year old man to play Romeo.
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..... Okay, so you ALMOST got me there - except that this situation is really more like if a 30 yr old who looked 19 or 20 played Romeo.
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