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08-21-2007, 02:31 PM
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Just a little something...
Goth: Also known as post punk music
Goth: Also known as heavy metal
Goth: Also known as punk music
Goth: Also known as Industrial music
Goth bands: Joy division, Kommunity FK, Specimen, Bauhaus, Red Lorry Yellow Lorry, Sex Gang Children, Siousxie and The Creatures, Alien Sex Feind, The Birthday Party
Goth bands: Slayer, Cannibal Corpse, Lamb of God, Ozzy Ozbourn, Alice Cooper, Cradle of Filth, Slipknot
Goth bands: Late Blink 182, HIM, My Chemical Romance, 69 Eyes, Deadsy, KoRn, Maralyn Manson, NIN, Ramstein
A Goth: One who wears all black all the time
A Goth: One who wears girl pants, has a fringe over one eye, hoodie
A Goth: One who wears heavy metal tee shirts
A Goth: One who wears lots of spikes and chains
A Goth: One who wears old Victorian clothing
A Goth: Is introspective, intelligent, quiet, deep
A Goth: Is depressed, Angry, Loud, Mean, cuts
A Goth: Is friendly, mysterious, slightly spooky
Goth is just a power word. Goth, will sell your clothes. Goth will sell your records. Goth is a manipulative word. Goth makes you sound good. Goth is good. Goth is evil. Goth is nothing.
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08-21-2007, 02:43 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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Dammit, we're popular again?! I was so much happier when we weren't!
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08-21-2007, 02:50 PM
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I've never known of a time in my life when goth wasn't a popular word to use. *shrugs*
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08-21-2007, 05:17 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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All subcultures are trendy due to their natures. There's no escaping labels, and why bother? Slapping names and tacking meanings onto things is healthy and human. Beating a dead horse is as well.
Any way, I like this.
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08-23-2007, 10:33 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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"Slapping names and tacking meanings onto things is healthy and human." While I concede that this is common human behaviour, I do not agree that it is healthy. It is detrimental and limiting, to say the least. I also realize, however, that language is inherently flawed in this way. Is "human" not a label in and of itself? Complex subject - maybe it has its own thread somewhere . . .
Fun piece, though. Was it intended as light-hearted, tongue-in-cheek fun, or social commentary?
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08-28-2007, 04:37 PM
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Meant as both. Essentially, I'm getting tired of the word and though there is truth, it's as subjective as anything else and facts apparently mean nothing of the sort anymore when it pertains to the word "goth".
I guess goth means "eyeliner" and "powerful" anymore. It's sick... and it's funny.
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08-28-2007, 05:32 PM
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Disturbingly entertaining. A sad day when goth is a marketing strategy.
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Originally Posted by Joker_in_the_Pack
At some point, you need to look yourself in the mirror and realize that what other people did to you does not define you as a person. You and your actions define who you are as a person. It's up to you to be a good person, in spite of all the evil you've faced. In fact, it should be because of the evil you see that it's good you do. Be the change you want in the world. Next time someone tells me that they're an asshole because they've had a bad life, I'm stabbing them in the eye with a spork.
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08-30-2007, 11:06 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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First Manson and now it’s My Chemical shite…Goth is way too overused, no wonder people are so confused.
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08-30-2007, 12:17 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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But isn't My Chemical Romance an emo band?
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08-30-2007, 12:29 PM
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Pop/rock, emo’s been dead for over 10 years, it’s not a genre of music anymore. But I’ve seen plenty of kids who call themselves Goth because they think Gerard Way is (not that he is in ANY way).
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08-30-2007, 12:31 PM
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Really? Because I've heard some of the newer bands like Panic! At the Disco and Fallout Boy being ragged on as "emo-pop" or "emo-punk." How would you classify them, then, since there is no such thing as emo anymore?
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08-30-2007, 12:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LadyStardust
Really? Because I've heard some of the newer bands like Panic! At the Disco and Fallout Boy being ragged on as "emo-pop" or "emo-punk." How would you classify them, then, since there is no such thing as emo anymore?
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Pop/rock, it’s sad because Emo started in the mid-80’s as a sub genre of punk and now it’s being used to label a group of pop bands that have nothing to do with the original stuff.
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08-30-2007, 12:53 PM
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This should probably end up moving to the music thread, but you don't believe a genre can evolve? I mean, if emo or rock had a particular sound ten years ago, it should be the same today? Although the same could be asked of Goth culture. Hasn't it evolved? Should it mean the same things it did twenty-thirty years ago?
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08-30-2007, 12:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LadyStardust
This should probably end up moving to the music thread, but you don't believe a genre can evolve? I mean, if emo or rock had a particular sound ten years ago, it should be the same today? Although the same could be asked of Goth culture. Hasn't it evolved? Should it mean the same things it did twenty-thirty years ago?
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But it has nothing to do with the original genre. There were distinctive features of emo music that actually made them emo, these new bands don’t. Of course a genre can evolve but emo just shrivelled up and died.
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08-30-2007, 01:01 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Hhmm... we should meet on the music board. I would definitely like to learn more about this.
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08-31-2007, 04:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LadyStardust
Hhmm... we should meet on the music board. I would definitely like to learn more about this.
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Race you there!
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08-31-2007, 05:16 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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D'oh! But I can't run worth shite!
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We're not gonna die. We can't die, Bendis. You know why? Because we are so...very...pretty. We are just too pretty for God to let us die.
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09-01-2007, 01:34 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: gothic.net
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I knew a Goth named Fritigern, and he was all of those things and tons more. As far as the word itself is concerned, doesn't 'goth' sort of get squashed around in your head until it sounds the way the word 'brain' sounds when you think about it too much?
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09-01-2007, 10:42 AM
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"There once was a Goth named Fritigern . . ."
Sounds like the beginnings of a bizarre limerick.
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09-01-2007, 10:59 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LadyStardust
D'oh! But I can't run worth shite!
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That's probably why I beat you, ha!
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