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06-07-2012, 07:19 AM
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What the shit.
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/10-553.pdf
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Hosanna-Tabor Evangelical Lutheran Church and School v. EEOC is a United States Supreme Court case that was decided in January 2012. The court ruled unanimously that federal discrimination laws do not apply to religious organizations' selection of religious leaders.
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I can't believe I'm only now finding out about this. What the fuck is wrong with this country.
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06-07-2012, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Versus
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Religion trumps everything in America. It's like if that kid who threw "Volcano" during "rock, paper, scissors" was allowed to throw it, and thus win every time, because to do otherwise might offend some old people.
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06-07-2012, 11:02 AM
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From what I understand this is because of the separation of church and state, which churches argue is meant to protect churches from state interference.
This is kinda why I'm glad Canada doesn't have separation of church and state.
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06-07-2012, 11:16 AM
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I think their defense was freedom of religion in the first amendment, not separation of church and state. Either way, it's bullshit that the church so heavily influences the law and politics, but god-for-fucking-bid that our rights are protected.
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06-07-2012, 02:21 PM
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Hello Versus. Glad you've come to join the conversation.
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06-07-2012, 02:51 PM
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You wound me.
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06-07-2012, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Versus
I think their defense was freedom of religion in the first amendment, not separation of church and state. Either way, it's bullshit that the church so heavily influences the law and politics, but god-for-fucking-bid that our rights are protected.
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Not American but from the link I took it that its in the same amendment?
It is bullshit because its supposed to work the other way too, BUT NOPE.
Meanwhile countries with state churches are actually far more secular, its strange.
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06-07-2012, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Saya
Not American but from the link I took it that its in the same amendment?
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No, you're right. It's in the same place. But don't think that you need to be Amercan to be savvy about it. Most aren't. It's funny how many soldiers I talk to who don't know where the constitution is. You know. That silly thing they swore an oath to defend. XD
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Meanwhile countries with state churches are actually far more secular, its strange.
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I don't get it, either. One of the things special about America, I guess.
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06-09-2012, 05:03 PM
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I blame Puritans.
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06-12-2012, 04:58 AM
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What, should I be able to sue them and force them to make me pope?
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06-12-2012, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonathan
What, should I be able to sue them and force them to make me pope?
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Nah, just wait to see what our Bothan spies find out.
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06-12-2012, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonathan
What, should I be able to sue them and force them to make me pope?
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You should be able to read the link I posted. You can do that, right?
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Couldn't rest, nah nigga I was stressed
Had me creepin' 'round corners, homie sleepin' in my vest.
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06-12-2012, 04:07 PM
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The church decided it didn't want her. I guess she can appeal to God, cause the government can't do shit about it. It sucks, oh well.
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06-12-2012, 04:21 PM
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Yeah! It also sucks how The U.S. had concentration camps in the Philippines and how there's still institutional racism and how the current market exploits most countries for the benefit of the global north and how one in six women will be sexually assaulted at some point in their lives.
oh well
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Originally Posted by KissMeDeadly
You fucking people [war veterans] are only a step below entitled rich kids, the only difference being you had to do and witness horrible things, instead of being given everything.
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real classy
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06-12-2012, 09:17 PM
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How do you propose for the state to resolve an issue that occurred within the context of a religious institution without undermining one of the basic foundations of our society and setting an utterly terrible precedent?
Institutional racism doesn't exist anymore, unless "Have Lots of Money" and "Not Have Money" are races. Nobody important gives a shit what skin color you have as long as the credit check comes back with a good looking number.
Concentration camps and rapes, ARE things that the state can and should put a stop to.
As opposed to people that go to a church making churchy decisions about the other people in their churches that we don't like.
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06-12-2012, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonathan
Institutional racism doesn't exist anymore
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Really now? You don't think the fact that the NYPD has stopped black people more times than there are total black people in Manhattan shows that institutional racism is still alive and well?
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Originally Posted by KissMeDeadly
You fucking people [war veterans] are only a step below entitled rich kids, the only difference being you had to do and witness horrible things, instead of being given everything.
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real classy
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06-12-2012, 09:58 PM
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Or that black people are six times more likely to get harsher prison sentences then white people, even if they are first time offenders and white people are second/third time offenders.
Nope! All is well in Crack Von Patriarch's kingdom.
By the by, CVP: She was a teacher
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Couldn't rest, nah nigga I was stressed
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06-13-2012, 04:47 PM
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And the economic standing of these individuals is totally just a coincidence.
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"In this particular case, involving a parochial school teacher in Redford, Mich., who spent most of her work time on non-religious duties, the Court found these to be decisive factors: that she was formally commissioned or ordained as a “minister” in the Lutheran denomination’s internal practices, that she did perform “important religious functions” in addition to her teaching of lay subjects in the classroom, and that her non-religious duties, however extensive, did not make a difference."
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06-13-2012, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan
one in six women will be sexually assaulted at some point in their lives.
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What source are you using? I'm just wondering if you have something more recent than what I'm familiar with as I thought it was one in four women by the age of 18 but the study I know is a few years old.
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06-13-2012, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Cracker Von Patriarch
And the economic standing of these individuals is totally just a coincidence.
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He did not say "certain black people" or "some black people," he said all black people, to include the poor and rich ones.
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Woke up with fifty enemies plottin' my death
All fifty seein' visions of me shot in the chest
Couldn't rest, nah nigga I was stressed
Had me creepin' 'round corners, homie sleepin' in my vest.
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06-13-2012, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Versus
He did not say "certain black people" or "some black people," he said all black people, to include the poor and rich ones.
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Hey military guy, what do you see more of in the desert, poor black people or fucking rich ones?
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06-13-2012, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Cracker Von Patriarch
Hey military guy, what do you see more of in the desert, poor black people or fucking rich ones?
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You mean in third world countries torn apart by 30 years of war? I don't need to remind you that we're talking about America, do I?
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Woke up with fifty enemies plottin' my death
All fifty seein' visions of me shot in the chest
Couldn't rest, nah nigga I was stressed
Had me creepin' 'round corners, homie sleepin' in my vest.
-Breathin, Tupac.
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06-14-2012, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonathan
Hey military guy, what do you see more of in the desert, poor black people or fucking rich ones?
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So guys, what kinda toppings do you like on your salads?
I usually just go with your classic bacon bits/sharp cheddar/garlic croutons.
Good stuff.
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06-14-2012, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Versus
You mean in third world countries torn apart by 30 years of war? I don't need to remind you that we're talking about America, do I?
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Wait. What does black people being in the desert have to do with black people being disproportionately imprisoned?
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06-14-2012, 10:27 AM
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I don't even know.
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All fifty seein' visions of me shot in the chest
Couldn't rest, nah nigga I was stressed
Had me creepin' 'round corners, homie sleepin' in my vest.
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