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Old 01-06-2007, 04:00 PM   #26
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That reminds me of the "Oval Portrait". Why? I do not know.
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Old 05-21-2007, 02:26 AM   #27
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I just read Poe's Eleonora, and feel a burden lifted from my shoulders.
Many men must have felt similar conflicts resolved the same bittersweet way. And I found the romance between cousins intriguing.
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Old 06-11-2007, 04:22 AM   #28
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ahh... i love the telltale heart. I love how it's told in first person, and he keeps insisting he isn't crazy.
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Gothic Literature (American) he mastered. Well, that's my opinion. I think Poe is a beautiful writer. Though I think personally my favourite works of his would be the Black Cat, because it's like the Tell-Tale-Heart, yet more horror-themed. For his poems I'll always adore Annabal Lee and the Raven. Has anyone read or heard of his novel he wrote? I have a collection of his work somewhere that includes that book.

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Old 06-11-2007, 02:48 PM   #30
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ahh... i love the telltale heart. I love how it's told in first person, and he keeps insisting he isn't crazy.

Me too - So creepy when he chuckles to himself too : /

Has anybody seen the Roger Corman film adaptations of Poe's work? I know film adaptations scarcely [If ever] do the writers any justice, but I'm interested in writing about Poe [within a dissertation], and wondered if mentioning adaptations would be worthwhile?

By the way, I also disagree that the raven in The Raven represents Lenore. To me it symbolises his mental torture, and it is there as a reminder until he can accept what has happened. As a couple of you have said.
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Old 06-11-2007, 04:25 PM   #31
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Me too - So creepy when he chuckles to himself too : /

Has anybody seen the Roger Corman film adaptations of Poe's work? I know film adaptations scarcely [If ever] do the writers any justice, but I'm interested in writing about Poe [within a dissertation], and wondered if mentioning adaptations would be worthwhile?
Good goth, I LOOOVE them. Campy, dark and poetic at the same time. Anything of those films with Vincent Price is worth viewing, really. Though the Raven is a silly film that barely has anything to do with the poem, it's creative and well-done. And Poe is an excellent subject for one's dissertation.

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Old 06-11-2007, 07:21 PM   #32
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I took a course on Gothic Literature in college and somehow we missed the symbolism of the raven. Honestly, I always thought of it as a literal representation -- here's this guy grieving for Lenore and he has this large bird that somehow becomes trapped in his room, always flitting about trying to find a way out. The narrator starts to personify the raven and becomes quite unhinged as a result (if you've ever had a scary bug or even a small bird trapped in a room with you, you'll understand the feeling).

I think my favorite Poe poem is "Annie" -- at least, I think that's the title -- because of the part that talks about "you shudder to behold me, thinking me dead. But my thoughts, they are brighter than all of the many Stars of the heavens, for they sparkle with Annie...." All the rhythm, the onomatopoeia, builds up to this conviction that this is a waking corpse talking. CREEPY.

And for sheer scary Poe, I will put the short story "Berenice" up against any others you care to name. The teeth....still makes me shudder just thinking about it.
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:26 PM   #33
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I feel like in candy shop....I know scarcely two "physical" people personaly that are able to create a sentence with E.A.P....and here are so many "digitals"...yes, it is shame, I live in strange world where you are taught about Baudelaire but not about Poe...not important

I am obssesed with Raven...but I realized, I donīt like the idea to anatomize the piece...I like it original English, read aloud in a slow tempo, regular rythm and intense diction...I am in this case sensualistic...enjoying, keeping the secret of the receipt unknown...(well, I did read the Poeīs treatsy on the Raven...didnīt hurt me)

but as to the idea lenore=raven...notice, that Poe does not create woman characters as individulas, strong, independent, thinking, capable of action, and there are not so many either...thatīs why I think the speculation has no basis...raven-bird has more of personality in a short incident than Lenore
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:32 PM   #34
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Edgar Allan Poe is good, but R.L. Stine is better.
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Just thought I would remind everyone that Edgar's birthday is this Saturday.
You can all celebrate and eat crow.

Ok, ok, I know, it was The Raven, not crow, but I could not have made the wisecrack otherwise. Grant me a little POEtic license now will ya?
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Old 01-17-2008, 07:43 PM   #36
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I would love to visit his grave this time of year. Just to see the roses that are supposedly left there. His house is supposedly haunted, but from what I saw of it, it wasn't really any hauntings by Poe himself.

My favorite poem of all time is Annabel Lee. I love the sheer beauty of it, the beauty of all his poems. I wanted to do a project on him, but our cutoff date was early 17th century.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:21 PM   #37
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I would love to visit his grave this time of year. Just to see the roses that are supposedly left there.
The roses are a nice touch, but the cognac is probably what gets Eddie's bones all a-rattle.
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I've taken the time to analize the possible meaning of a couple of his poems:

http://www.printnpost.com/articles/6...Poe/Page1.html

http://www.printnpost.com/articles/6...orm/Page1.html
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I feel like such a dork, having only read the Raven. Any recommendations for some of his work?
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I feel like such a dork, having only read the Raven. Any recommendations for some of his work?
The Masque of the Red Death is genius!
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The Murders in the Rue Morgue, The Cask of Amontillado, A Descent Into The Maelstrom, Hop-Frog, The Black Cat

I like all of his work. The best thing to do is buy a book of his complete works and read all of it. Then decide what you do and don't like. I like the revenge stories, myself, but he also wrote some damn good mystery.
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Lightbulb YOU KNOW YOU'RE ON A GOTHIC FORUM WHENn..

There are multiple threads made about the Poe.
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Lionizing is pretty funny.
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Good goth, I LOOOVE them. Campy, dark and poetic at the same time. Anything of those films with Vincent Price is worth viewing, really. Though the Raven is a silly film that barely has anything to do with the poem, it's creative and well-done. And Poe is an excellent subject for one's dissertation.

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Goddamnit, I wish the Edgar Allan Poe book at the library would hurry and be available. I AM SO ANXIOUS TO READ IT.
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Old 07-15-2011, 07:32 PM   #48
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Yes, he was a symbolic writer (in his poems that is, some of his stories have a very literal manner).

The Sleeper is a glorious example of classic symbolism: Death portrayed as Sleep.

But specifically in regards to your idea of the Raven as Lenore: that is an amazing observation! I do not think Poe intentionally tried to use Freudian symbolism in his writing, BUT, being well aquainted with those ideas that invoke horror, melancholy and other feelings in the reader, he may have instinctively written that way. Analyzing The Raven, one finds support for your idea in the 13th paragraph, last line, when he says "she shall press, ah, nevermore!", when in the prior verses, he referred to the Raven as a "he". To be sure though, he does revert to calling it a "he" in the last verse. A Freudian slip perhaps!
As Freud was well after Poe's period, the application of psychoanalytical theory is a modern phenomenon of course. Freud's theories do cross over into the darker elements of life! Marie Bonaparte's book on Poe is a great place to start for this application. She was receiving analysis from Freud at the time!
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As Freud was well after Poe's period, the application of psychoanalytical theory is a modern phenomenon of course. Freud's theories do cross over into the darker elements of life! Marie Bonaparte's book on Poe is a great place to start for this application. She was receiving analysis from Freud at the time!
Fascinating historical figure, I had not heard of her until now although I had heard of her work and phrases that were offshoots of her work. Thank you for the reference and bringing her to my attention. I learn so much in this place. I love Gnet.
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Ah, Edgar Allen Poe... I simply adore his works. Every time I re-read one of his poems or short stories, I notice something I hadn't before. I'm sure I have most of The Raven memorized by now but The Bells is probably my favourite poem. The first time I ever read it, I found my voice getting louder and louder as I lost myself in the flow
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