What you don't get Jill is the fact that the United States of America is supposed to be a Republic where the only laws are the Constitution and Bill Of Rights.

The United States is not a Democracy.

This is going to amuse me. Hey deadman, what is a republic?

A Republic is a State or Country that isn't led by a Monarch.

And that's totally dichotomous with a democracy, ergo your erroneous attempt at a correction?

From Webster's Online Dictionary:

Definition of Democracy.

Definition of Republic.

Honestly, it sounds like the U. S. government is a combination of both, from these definitions. Then again, I guess the dictionary could be incorrect in relation to how these terms are normally used..?

Kind of like how a platypus has a little of both a platypus and a mammal...?

I think the platypus is either proof that there is no god or proof that, if there is a god, it has one twisted sense of humour.

Being an atheist, I still see it backwards. I feel that religious people could make a compelling argument about God creating everything, as the weirdest animals are all in the corner of the world, implying he was bored by the sixth day.

I dunno, I think at this point it is time to quit feeding the troll. Sometimes it is fun to feed the troll. However, this troll is no fun to taunt. Anyway, weird creatures being everywhere are no proof of a deity being around and becoming bored, just further proof of the oddities that natural selection can produce. No offence Tam, I'm not saying my lack of faith is any more valid than your faith. Quite the opposite, as a divine creator still makes more sense than everything springing forth from nothing at this point in our understanding than everything just coming forth from nothing. There's still the issue of where the divine creator came from to deal with though. I still just fail to reconcile the divine creator with the lack of his presence in recorded history. Though, if you take into account the relative youth of the universe relative to us and his absence, it could make sense that he decided his being known in our presence in our being just made shit worse and decided it would be better to let us work crap out on our own.

After all, is coming to the divine, under threat of the sword, really coming to the divine, or just coming to the dictator? In the bible it is said man(woman, as well, to be correct) are given free will. Can one be truly given free will if we know the difference?

Also, if given an and/or proposition between hell or Jesus, is that a choice between the divine or damnation? After all, I help my fellow being, to the determinant to myself. Is that not, in and of itself divine? Is Jesus demanded to be divine? Or is Jesus demanded to be divine? I have to profession of belief in Jesus, nor the divine, yet I lead a more divine existence than most Christians than most I meet.

Anyway, being well under the influence of barbiturates, I'm sure my post has no bearing to this discussion. So I'll leave it at this and thank spell checking for not making more mistakes than I'm sure I've already made.

O ya, wasn't trying to imply that you were being a troll Godslayer. Was talking about Deadman. Sorry if it sounded that way.

I fail to see how sticking to my own threads is being a troll.

Being a troll would be going from one thread to another with the only goals being to get the post count up and piss off as many people as possible.

See how denigrating it feels to need to address unbased idiotic insult attempts?
How about you don't pay attention to it, refuse to be hypocritical and stop doing it yourself, and actually try to defend why the fuck you could possibly believe in the bullshit that is New World Order theories. I half expect you to end up saying you actually believe David Icke and his lizardman shit.

The Reason I believe in the New World Order "Bullshit" as you call it,is because too many things add up for any rational human being to deny the possibility when confronted with the evidence for 9-11-01 - to our current problems both monetarily,as well as with our infrastructure.

George Sr. talked about "A New World Order" and tried to sell the American public on how "Great it WILL be" the date on that little gem was 9-11-'91.

Ten years Later to the fucking day the World Trade Center Towers as well as the Pentagon are attacked and under which Administration? Bush Jr.


That Administration setup a piece of shit "Feel good" legislation known as the Patriot Act,under that the Federal Government gained more control.

The Patriot Act laid the ground work for what we are faced with now,and that is a very possible complete take over,unless people realize what they are seeing take form is not a Utopia,but a grim Dystopia.

Judge and insult all you want.

We'll see who was telling the truth and who wasn't after this comes to a head,I just hope some of us are left alive to talk about it.

So you're telling us that:

1 - A ridiculously powerful elite that, like the idiot in your video believes, is old enough to have actually started both modern capitalism AND modern communism with the same goals of global control needed to set up an explosion in two towers a hundred years into the future to have an excuse to attack one country.

2- George Bush's talk of New World Order CLEARLY proves your batshit crazy theories of New World Order, just like us Goths are CLEARLY the guys that sacked Rome.

3- George Bush planned exactly when to reveal the idea of New World Order and waited EXACTLY ten years until his son became president and America wasn't as strong to finally unleash his plan.

4- Noam Chomsky, instead of being right by saying just how helpless governments were to 9/11 but how elated they became when they realize they could increase their power by appealing for further national security, Chomsky is merely another of the authoritarian elite who gave this perfectly reasonable explanation for the Patriot Act to uncover how the government planned it all.

5- The momentum that is taking us to "not a Utopia,but a grim Dystopia" [sic] is because of the fault of a handful of shady characters, possibly lizardlike in nature, and certainly not the fault of the system itself. A powerful government doesn't clearly care about perpetuating its own power at the expense of the people. No sir, IN FACT we do need a government but it should be a government based on what I like because I know the TRUTH.

At what point did I mention Lizard men or Norm Chromsky?

The Lizard Men was just a shot at the New World Order theories overall, and Noam Chomsky I mention because of his much more reasonable alternative to government reaction to 9/11 and will keep bringing it up until you directly address it and Jones's assertion of Chomsky.

I don't know what Jone's feelings are pertaining to Chromsky and that isn't much if any concern to me,quite frankly it isn't a blip on my fucking radar screen.

I think this statement alone is very telling of your character and leads me to the following two questions...

Do you think a One World Government is a Good Idea Jillian?

And

What type of One World Government do you think would work the best?

Feel free to explain why it would or wouldn't work.

Not until you tell me why it's "very telling of [my] character" because if you said that because of why I think you said it, then it's another exemplification that you are a fucking idiot.

If you'll go back and look through the posts on the last few pages,you won't find any attempt by me to try and force any type of government on anyone,I tried to inform people on here of what type of Government this country was founded as.

I made mention of protecting the Constitution and why it and the Bill Of Rights are still relevant,even though the document was written 200 years ago.

You were the one Projecting your views and Ideals onto me as if they were my own.

I merely pointed that fact out.

Will you answer the questions Jillian?

My point exactly. Your ideals are stupid, ritualistic, and absolutist.
No projection anywhere, Anyone else but you would laugh at your attempt to claim that what you want is for everyone to have their own autonomy after all your opinions you have voiced.

Show me where I said or made any mention that people should not do as they pleased as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others (Example Of Rights Infringements:Robbery,R*pe,Murder,Child Molestation,home invasion,ect)?

You still haven't answered the other questions Jill.

How about the fact that you keep talking about Truth and how I, a perfect example of the person that will disagree with you to the point of not respecting you, is not simply a dick, but a person that is actually 'in the mist.'
To any sensible person it clearly shows that you fucking believe there's a concrete answer, and you have it, and people that don't listen to your Truth are against you.
This is also my argument with your bullshit idea that there actually IS an elite group trying to murder us (and as I mentioned you are one of the selected few who know this Truth) which completely cops out the system and places the blame on some literally evil people that just like suffering. Once again, what you're saying is OH NO THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE SYSTEM, IT'S JUST THE PEOPLE RUNNING IT, but it wouldn't be this bad and the selected few wouldn't want to kill half of the world if they weren't there; if maybe instead they were replaced by the selected few that, like you, know the Truth, huh?
You might have seen how I actually answered your questions before you asked them, but you were too quick to say "ah! I can attempt another unbased insult because this looks like projection! Fuck the argument, I'll attack the persona again. Your move Alan!"

What makes my Ideals stupid Jill?

In all of your...19 or so years you must be so well versed in the workings of the world.

And

If the Constitution is so flawed how would you change it?