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Panther 03-01-2007 10:58 AM

I like Rasputina's cover of All Tomorrow's Parties. And Inkubus Sukkubus did a very nice cover of Paint it Black. Voltaire's version of Caught a Lite Sneeze was okay, but no one can do it better than Tori.

However, I wasn't very fond of some of the other covers Rasputina did. . .especially the cover of Why Don't You Do Right.

Underwater Ophelia 03-01-2007 12:13 PM

I loved their cover of "Why Don't You Do Right?"! I think almost all of their covers are amazing. I especially loved their cover of "Tourniquet" by Manson.

MIRON 08-04-2007 08:40 PM

How many bands have done versions of "Tainted Love"? I still think that SOFT CELLS cover of it was the best.

10 "good" covers

THE DAMNED -- "White Rabbit"
ECHO AND THE BUNNEYMEN -- "People Are Strange"
GUN CLUB -- "Preachin The Blues"
THEATRE OF ICE -- I Can See For Miles"
JOHNNY CASH -- "Hurt"
TUXEDOMOON -- "Night and Day"
45 GRAVE -- "Schools Out"
VISAGE -- "In the Year 2525"
SNAKEFINGER -- "The Model"
LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH -- "A Question of Temperature"

CptSternn 08-04-2007 09:09 PM

Deathline International does a good one as well.

Valrys 08-05-2007 02:41 AM

Cradle Of Filth's coer of No Time To Cry. Now, I haven't heard the original, but much as I like Cradle, there is no way they can improve over anything the Sisters of Mercy Did.

I also think that Mansons covers of Sweet Dreams was quite good, although I also love the original.

One more I can think of right now, Children of Bodoms cover of Iron Maidens Aces High. My lord, it is awful - Alexi turns in some of the worst vocals I've heard him do, they've got rid of the excellent original Bassline and also added totally un-neccessary keyboards.

Ooo, one last thing. I haven't heard it, but Darkthrone covered Love in a Void by Siouxsie & the Banshees.........Was a band ever more unsuited to a song?

Tha Duckman 08-05-2007 04:00 AM

I do a damn good cover of "Crystal Ship" by The Doors. And a noise cover of "Creep" by Radiohead.

Oh yeah, I rule...

Hayseed Dixie ~ "Ace Of Spades."

delicti 08-05-2007 04:33 AM

Wow, there's so many covers out there, but so many of them are so bad. Here's some ones that are interesting, at least:

Dessau - Revenge
(This is, essentially, Ministry covering Ministry)

Faces of Sarah - Hit Me Baby One More Time
(Take a normally horrible band and a horrible song, and you get a fun cover, hmmm...)

Information Society - Are Friends Electric?
(After producing Gary Newman albums in the late 90's, InSoc's remaining member takes on an ambitious cover, and pulls it off admirably)

Two Witches - King Volcano
(Two Witches wished the were Bauhaus so long, that they actually made an impressive cover of them)

Sleep Chamber - The Light Pours Out of Me
(Another terrible band, but an AWESOME proto-goth song by Magazine - they do manage to not ruin it and it's listenable)

Paigeybobert 08-05-2007 11:43 AM

What the shit? Marilyn Manson did a cover of "Down in the Park"? He totally killed that song.

Velvet_Mansfield 08-05-2007 12:54 PM

I like Manson's covers of "Highway to Hell" and "Sweet Dreams".

I probably shouldn't mention this, but the Alkaline Trio's cover of "Lucretia, My Reflection" was interesting. It can't touch the original, and it doesn't have the same effect, but I still thought it was pretty good.

One of my favorite covers recently is the cover of some Cannibal Corpse song by this lounge singer. That was pretty priceless.

dreamydancer 08-05-2007 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Valrys
Cradle Of Filth's cover of No Time To Cry. Now, I haven't heard the original, but much as I like Cradle, there is no way they can improve over anything the Sisters of Mercy Did.

YES!! Oh gawd, when I heard that I wanted to kill myself. They took something beautiful and turned into a festering spooky kid tune for ugly little children who wouldn't know worthy music if it bit them in the ass.

Oh, I see you like Cradle of Filth. Nevermind then. :D

Crying_Crimson_Tears 08-05-2007 04:57 PM

I liked Anberlin's cover of The Cure's "Love Song."

But other than that, I prefer originals.

Aaroneet 08-05-2007 05:02 PM

[quote=Kraven de Sade]Most other covers by Manson ("Sweet Dreams" and "Tainted Love" to name a pair) don't even compare to the originals.


You forgot to mention his cover of "Personal Jesus".

Overall, it depends on how creative a cover is. The amount of work that would go into making a decent cover usually means, to me, that it would be completely distinguished from the original, so as to take the original song, and make it into an entirely new one. That is why the term "re-make" exists.

Example of an artist who does covers well: Laibach.

Tha Duckman 08-05-2007 06:21 PM

Marilyn Manson has done more covers than a seven year old sweat shop worker who makes bed sheets for a living. He's a fuckin' chud.

dreamydancer 08-05-2007 06:59 PM

Muaaahhaahaaa.

That made me laugh. It is true though, and people give him more credit than he deserves too. -_-

Tha Duckman 08-05-2007 07:11 PM

The numb nut did and EXACT replica of "Personal Jesus"!!! There's NO difference! When I do covers, I mix it up, make it a different genre or whatever. I did a cover of "Thunder strike" made entirely with a speak and spell and the sound of dripping taps. If some junkie in Ireland can do something that different, what's stopping this guy, with all his money, doing it? He's a no talent hack, and he should just pack it in.

Aaroneet 08-05-2007 07:25 PM

[quote=Tha Duckman]The numb nut did and EXACT replica of "Personal Jesus"!!!

Which is why I used that example. And it seems to me that the only thing stopping him from trying to actually make a musical contribution in his covers (i.e remaking song) is the fear that he might not actually make money off of it.

Tha Duckman 08-05-2007 07:42 PM

He's a douche! Money shouldn't BE a focal point of music! It should be just something that hopefully happens after a while. Over the years, I've made dick off my music. I give it out for free. Very little of my music I sell. I hate people who do it just for the money. It's when that happens that the market gets saturated with complete crap like Steps and all that bollocks.

dreamydancer 08-05-2007 09:03 PM

I like it u-lut.

The Psychedelic Furs do a kickass cover of "How Soon is Now?" The only thing that puts me off about it is that it's the theme song to "Charmed". But it's not their fault.

"Do You Think I'm Sexy?" The Revolting Cocks

"Here Comes The Rain" The Cruxshadows

"Running up That Hill" Faith and The Muse

No thank you, sir. Check please!!

"Enjoy The Silence" Lacuna Coil
Just take any song I like and make a heavy metal version. That’s the way to ruin a song for me.

"Dark Entries" Ministry

"New York, New York" Nina Hagen

"Ziggy Stardust" Nina Hagen

Basically everything she does is pure rubbish.

Valrys 08-05-2007 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamydancer
Oh, I see you like Cradle of Filth. Nevermind then. :D

I am painfully, painfully uncool.

^_^

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Originally Posted by dreamydancer
"Enjoy The Silence" Lacuna Coil

Another horrible, and totally un-necessary cover

TopHaggardDoll 08-05-2007 11:22 PM

I actually quite like Marilyn Manson's covers.

I used to be quite a big fan of his but i've lost alot of respect for him in the past year or two. The man doesn't know what the hell he thinks anymore, I wish he would quit music. He should have quit at Holywood, after that his music lost substance and now he's just a pathetic clown who is doing shit he said he'd never do. It does anger me.

ANYWAY!

A good cover is Graveworm's cover of Losing My Religion, despite the fact the low growls on it are slightly ridiculous. Ignoring that though, the song does translate very well into metal and it takes alot to impress me when it comes down to metal.
I also really enjoy Orgy - Blue Monday and The Cruxshadows - It's a Sin.

I swear though, if one more person covers unchained melody, I will scream.

maggot 08-06-2007 09:29 AM

As much as I hate Razed in Black and the Smashing Pumpkins, I love RiB's cover of "Cherub Rock."

Also, Laibach and KMFDM have never disappointed me with a cover.

Die Krupps does an album of Metallica covers. What really stands out from it is their cover of "Enter Sandman," which just blows me away.

delicti 08-06-2007 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dreamydancer
That made me laugh. It is true though, and people give him more credit than he deserves too. -_-

Any credit is more credit than he deserves. I can't believe he'd actually be mentioned in a music thread here.

TopHaggardDoll 08-06-2007 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by delicti
Any credit is more credit than he deserves. I can't believe he'd actually be mentioned in a music thread here.

He actually used to make good music, I think so anyway. The less commercial songs had alot of strange layers of sound and I like sounds like that.
Not just that though...it was awkward and you couldn't really place him anywhere because the way his music sounded was quite odd.

Now he's just the same as any other generic rock band and he should shut up and go and just drink himself to death somewhere.

delicti 08-06-2007 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TopHaggardDoll
He actually used to make good music, I think so anyway. The less commercial songs had alot of strange layers of sound and I like sounds like that.
Not just that though...it was awkward and you couldn't really place him anywhere because the way his music sounded was quite odd.

Well, the early albums I kind of shrug about, because I know a lot of people who like them that have excellent taste. Once he started dropping the g word all over the place though, I think it took us all by surprise and all of a sudden we went from misunderstood to hated pretty much overnight.

Even now, we get kids coming in looking like Hot Topic and requesting him. I have no idea how someone so otherwise vanilla and obviously not-goth would have such a major impact on us all.

Beneath the Shadows 08-06-2007 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by delicti
I have no idea how someone so otherwise vanilla and obviously not-goth would have such a major impact on us all.

You know the saying about how a pebble dropped in a pond will make waves that hit every shore? Replace the pebble with a turd.


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