This thread is quickly dissimulating into ESL; all respect to Matr and others who wish to improve their English, but there are other threads which will allow them to pursue that goal without such vitriol.

To the established members-

Look. This kid posted in the proper forum, regardless as to how trite and repetitive it may be, and others before her (him?) have made similar posts which were received with empathy, consideration, and kindness. Why is this one different? Is there a new policy of beating on newbs in effect?

I have no experience with cutting, and so have no advice to impart to ITEOS, other than this- you have people who obviously care about you, so turn to them and seek help. I hope that is possible.

To the rest of G.net- y'all are being kind of mean.

Going to watch Monday Night Football.

Go Vikes! (I loves me some football).

yeah, well - not everything in life is all rosy and pre-ordained to warrant acceptance. sometimes, you get your chops busted... well... just because. this thing was rife with contradictory bull-shit.

plus it was annoying.

decent, level-headed people such as yourself are there to offer a bit of impartiality when the rest of the world only wants to vomit on such inanity. maybe you'll get lucky and get sex.

good luck.

thanks gnosses. but like...all of you need to get off my back. did i not state in my first post that you don't have to reply? well obviously you all ignored that and did just to insult me. what if i did go off and kill myself? how would you feel then? i mean i'm not going to. and i'm sure all of you are about to say "i would feel happy knowing i ridded the world of you" or something gay and stupidl ike that. but only because you havn't experienced it. if i acctually went off and killed myself and blamed it on you the guilt would eventually get to you. don't deny it because yah its true. so. furthermore. get off my fuckin back about this entire damn thing! only about one person has been nice about this (gnosses) and i thank him. the rest of you have just been immature jackasses that have no life so you have nothing better to do then belittle other people just to feel better about yourselves. way to go assholes.

ooh, the power...

you're learning at quite a young age how to manipulate those around you. you need to work harder, though 'cuz statements like that really only affect friends and family.

actually, i think there were a few people in your life that tried to help and all you wanted was to be... how did you put it? left the fuck alone? was that it?

don't you remember? your counselor? your parents? oh yeah, that's right. they didn't help you the way you wanted to be helped, so that didn't count. i forgot.

Whoa, you totally figured me out right away.

I don't hold myself responsible for the actions of others. I am not your keeper, nor do I care.

Immaturity is often reflected through name calling.

If you feel so unwelcome here, there is not a single person asking you to stay. If you have a problem with how things are done here and how people behave, by all means go elsewhere.

It would be the mature thing to do.

Similarity: Someone bringing harm to themselves and having to deal with their "secret" being outted.

Difference: Not wanting help in any way, shape, or form yet posting their gripe all the same.

There are online journals that people can get which can be set to private posts so not a soul will ever read what is being said. By posting their story on a public forum, they opened themselves up to public criticism.

As far as the kindness and empathy are concerned, there is a difference between being thrust into seemingly insurmountable circumstance and allowing oneself to decline into a state of self-mutilation with no desire to accept help offered. If he/she/it doesn't want help, then there is no room for us to respond with kindness or empathy because it's a situation the person brought entirely upon themselves.

I can easily understand where you are coming from, now hear where I (as I cannot speak for the whole of Gothic.net) am coming from: We are more than willing to give advice and help to people who want to be helped, but when exposed to an individual such as this who claims to not want attention and not want help rants about their problems but refuses to do anything to to solve them, it is no longer our responsibility to act with logical and heart-felt diplomacy. There are thousands of places more appropriate than this for someone to bring up problems, especially if she/he/it was not expecting or desiring responses.

Dis, one of the characteristics that I like about you is your logical and intelligent mind.

Well, it is painful to the people reading it.

It's appreciated, though my mind could really use some organization.

You should be thankful for the responses you've got. Every single word that's been said is going to help you develop a thicker skin, which is needed in situations like this. Open your eyes and actually read what people are writing and think about why they are writing it.

Do you have any idea how ungrateful you sound? Your parents love you. You have people you can depend on when you're in trouble. What more do you want?

This world doesn't give a shit about you. It's not going to bend to your will just because you feel you have some divine right to have everything go your way. Attention seeking won't cut it. You can whinge and complain all you want but at the end of the day you have to take control of your own life as much as you can. Help yourself.

I don't cut my self any more because of the horrible scars... now wen I fell like cutting my self I just make my self a new piercing... it looks much better later on...