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delicti 08-08-2007 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Beneath the Shadows
You know the saying about how a pebble dropped in a pond will make waves that hit every shore? Replace the pebble with a turd.

No kidding. A large, iceberg-sized turd.

Sumerian Nephilim 08-17-2007 10:27 AM

Better:

In Every Dream Home a Heartache - Fields of the Nephilim
Diamonds & Rust - Judas Priest
Ziggy Stardust - Bauhaus
Satyricon - Born for Burning
Spirit in the Sky - Doctor & The Medics
Rosalie - Thin Lizzy
ZZ Top - Viva Las Vagas
Gimme Shelter - Sisters of Mercy
Metal Heart - Dimmu Borgir
That Girl - Iron Maiden
Summer Breeze - Type O Negative
Epitaph - In The Woods...


Worse:
The Man Who Sold the World - Nirvana (I adore the original)
No Time To Cry - Cradle of Filth
Cummunication Breakdown - Iron Maiden
Changes - Kelly & Ozzy (the original is far better)

Vyvian Blackthorne 08-28-2007 01:24 PM

Good goth..Well, guess it's about time for me to post in this thread yet again.
Better
Ziggy Stardust-Bauhaus
Sorrow-David Bowie
Telegram Sam-Bauhaus (yet I still do love the original, by a slight range)
Servenance-Bauhaus
Third Uncle-Bauhaus
School's Out-45 Grave
Venus in Furs-Christian Death
Panic In Detriot-Christian Death

Worse
The Man who sold The World-Nirvana
MM-Tainted Love (video rocked IMHO, but the cover was bad)
Any covers by Bon Jovi *shudder*

Goth Forever
Goth Forever
Goth Forever

IsolatedReptile 08-28-2007 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet_Mansfield
I probably shouldn't mention this, but the Alkaline Trio's cover of "Lucretia, My Reflection" was interesting. It can't touch the original, and it doesn't have the same effect, but I still thought it was pretty.

I had no idea they covered it. I'd be really interested in hearing that. I just hope it's nothing like Fall Out Boy's cover of Love Will Tear us Apart.

Vyvian Blackthorne 08-28-2007 01:41 PM

GAH! FOB covering Love Will Tear us Apart? Say it isn't so ):

That's musical abuse.

Goth Forever

IsolatedReptile 08-28-2007 01:45 PM

On the topic of Venus and the Furs Bauhaus did a cover, but I've only ever heard it on Press Eject and Give Me The Tape. The sound quality on that leaves a bit to be desired, so it may be a great cover it may be a terrible cover. The world will just never know off that album.

Manson's covers are dull for the most part.

Bauhaus' seemed to all be boss.

Other than those two I can't think of many covers that are really worth mentioning. Oh yeah, Peter Murphy's cover of Final Solution, so much better than Pere Ubu. Props on a good try to them though.

big_dman27 08-28-2007 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Elliot
Best:
Pearl Jam - Fuckin ' Up
Jimi Hendrix - All Along The Watchtower
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Higher Ground
Rage Against The Machine - Ghost Of Tom Joad
Slayer - Guilty Of Being White
Slayer - Born To Be Wild
Johnny Cash - Hurt
Napalm Death - Nazi Punks Fuck Off
Trail Of Dead - Gold Heart Mountain Top Queen Directory
Rob Zombie - Biltzkrieg Bop

Worst:
Dillinger Escape Plan - Jesus Christ Pose
Buckcherry - On The Road Again
Black Dahlia Murder - Paint It Black
The Clash - Girl, You Really Got Me Now
Disturbed - Land Of Confusion
Dixie Chicks - Landslide


Those were the first that came to mind.

Good list. Must agree

Wormboy 08-28-2007 02:23 PM

any, repeat, ANY cover marilyn manson or cradle of filth has ever done was good, except personal jesus but thats just because its not a good song to begin with, he made a fine cover of a song that wasnt too good anyway

Dancing_in_rain 08-28-2007 03:30 PM

Well...let me tell you one thing.

All covers done by me and nearly posted on YouTube are a gazillion times worse than the originals. I sing like a wok. Enough said.

MaguMan 08-28-2007 03:37 PM

Let's see here... The Animals version of, "Paint it Black." Nothing like spicing it up with additional lyrics, a violin, and some Cajun spice!

Maybe even The Shroud's cover of, "Red Over White," could get a mention.

Hmmm... the Bright Stairs tribute cover of, "Brother Fear."

The, "Dead Souls," cover of Joy Division by Nine Inch Nails wasn't too bad either.

And of course, how could this list be completed without mentioning Tim McGraw's, "Indian Outlaw?"

MaguMan 08-28-2007 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by delicti
Dessau - Revenge
(This is, essentially, Ministry covering Ministry)

Not a fan of the Paved in Skin cover version?

delicti 08-29-2007 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MaguMan
Not a fan of the Paved in Skin cover version?

Not familiar, actually. What's it like?

MaguMan 08-29-2007 01:13 PM

Interesting. A little "softer" in terms of vocals than the Dessau version or even the original Ministry song.

A brief audio clip can be found here (track 12):

http://www.amazon.com/Off-Paved-Skin...8418381&sr=1-1

Wormboy 08-29-2007 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha Duckman
The numb nut did and EXACT replica of "Personal Jesus"!!! There's NO difference! When I do covers, I mix it up, make it a different genre or whatever. I did a cover of "Thunder strike" made entirely with a speak and spell and the sound of dripping taps. If some junkie in Ireland can do something that different, what's stopping this guy, with all his money, doing it? He's a no talent hack, and he should just pack it in.

Personal Jesus was a lousy song to begin with.
I'm not even going to begin on the Marilyn Manson thing.



But yeah a lot of covers are really good these days because people are covering of bands that really sucked and making the songs better, such as COF covering ANY IRON MAIDEN SONG, or covers like Behind Blue Eyes (which was really really amazing aside from two parts that killed it a bit)

Wormboy 08-29-2007 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by delicti
Well, the early albums I kind of shrug about, because I know a lot of people who like them that have excellent taste. Once he started dropping the g word all over the place though, I think it took us all by surprise and all of a sudden we went from misunderstood to hated pretty much overnight.

Even now, we get kids coming in looking like Hot Topic and requesting him. I have no idea how someone so otherwise vanilla and obviously not-goth would have such a major impact on us all.

You guys take the label of goth entirely too serious in my opinion.

IsolatedReptile 08-29-2007 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Wormboy
You guys take the label of goth entirely too serious in my opinion.

It's not taking the label seriously here that's the problem. He defied genre at first and didn't adhere to any school of thought except his own, and then, all of a sudden he was a goth. Goth this goth that and it was Manson saying it himself, not just the media anymore, so he played into the hands of popularity. That's disgusting in my opinion considering the type of music and he lyrics.

Rae Ven Rae 08-29-2007 07:21 PM

I actually liked orgy's cover of BLUE MONDAY over the eighties jam...

Rae Ven Rae 08-29-2007 07:28 PM

I liked Johnny Cash's' cover of PERSONAL JESUS and DIRT better...
and if I ever get the chance, I swear I am gonna do an album of smaltzy eighties tunes and totally revamp them!

IsolatedReptile 08-29-2007 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vyvian Blackthorne
GAH! FOB covering Love Will Tear us Apart? Say it isn't so ):

That's musical abuse.

Goth Forever

I agree. It was pretty terrible. I actually like Fall Out Boy, but thats a classic that should only be touched by a master.

Acushla 09-13-2007 03:07 PM

Cake's cover of "I Will Survive" is better than the original, IMO, and Nouvelle Vague's "Bela Lugosi's Dead" was pretty good as was Fiona Apple's "Across the Universe."

Also good:
Groove Coverage- Poison
The Decemberists- Little Boxes
Placebo- 20th Century Boy and Running Up That Hill
The F-Ups- All the Young Dudes

Pancakes of Doom 09-15-2007 09:37 PM

Some decent covers:
In Every Dream Home a Heartache- Rozz Williams & Gitane Demone
Ziggy Stardust- Bauhaus
Telegram Sam- Bauhaus
School's Out- 45 Grave

Some not-so-decent ones:
This is Halloween- Both the Marilyn Manson and the Fallout Boy versions
Lovesong- 311 (Or whomever made that awful reggae version)
Tom Sawyer- Mindless Self Indulgence

Wormboy 09-15-2007 11:29 PM

^ bro it was Panic! that covered this is halloween

Pancakes of Doom 09-16-2007 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Wormboy
^ bro it was Panic! that covered this is halloween

Sorry, they sound so similar to me that I confuse the two from time to time.

Pancakes of Doom 09-16-2007 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Wormboy
^ bro it was Panic! that covered this is halloween

Sorry, they sound so similar to me that I confuse the two from time to time.

Wormboy 09-16-2007 11:01 AM

It's cool, they don't sound too different if you actually like them you can tell them apart. Best cover ever = Oops I Did It Again covered by Children of Bodom, it cracks me up


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