Awsome, I can make room in my wallet for my coffee of the month membership card.

Wow...just read the whole goth with a sledge hammer thing. That is probably the best thing I have ever read about goth. That is how I view it, but I half expected this group to be about teenagers that like black and pissing off there parents, and not about what it really is. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to read it.

After looking at some of the posts by 13 year olds I can't honestly blame you. I suppose I'm glad I'm 14 now.

I miss Dustin_theskatergoth666 XD

For me "Goth With A sledgehammer" had a fairly good impact on my life. A friend of mine from california sent me a .txt file of it and after reading I wanted to learn a little bit more because it made a lot of sense.

So, due to my curiosity I googled "goth with a sledgehammer" and one of the links on the first page pointed to a somewhat obscure forumn thread, that had to do with whether or not goth's should be christians or something of that nature. After reading for a bit and looking around the site I decided to join, and thus began my interactions with those among the site of gothic.net. The reason I say it had a fairly good impact on my life is because if I hadn't came upon this site I wouldn't know all these beautiful creatures that our species calls females. I wouldn't have had some intellectual conversations with a few people or even had some nice debates about novels or poems. This is a great site for those who are very into literature, just socializing with others around the same knowledge base, or just to debate out politics.

T_T I know. Thats the joke.

Wo0tness! Yup yup

I love it when that happens. It pretty much makes me feel warm and fuzzy on the inside.

But only on the inside.

Its All Over! Nooo!

I agree with Saturnine. I've stopped labelling myself as goth as such. Firstly because yeah, the "hardcore kids" would kick my ass so bad for giving them a bad name, and also because wearing the label "goth" always leads to people jumping to conclusions that I'm going to fit their dictionary defenition steriotype of goth. Can't you just simply exist as who you are and not care about fitting in. Sure, being goth is usually meant to be because you don't *want* to fit in, but you're just fitting in with all the other people who are "unique-- just like everyone else." And "Empty Purple Stars", if you really do conform to the bunch of people who state they don't conform to all these steriotypes you posted, how can you say "I've been goth for X amount of years"? What you're saying is that it's not an attribute, but a way of life, and being. And so you can't really pin it down to a date when you "turned goth." And being goth is different things to different people! I'm sure there are people who don't conform to your "Goth With A Sledgehammer" checklist who could be described as goth. And if these "skin-goths" take delight in calling themselves goth, then let them be! It's none of you're fucking business! If they're so insignifigant to you, then why are you big-noting the posers? They're only posing if they're being something they're not.

You know, I've never really labeled myself as gothic. (I'm not a skinhead either. I have happened to have known some Skinhead Against Racial Predjuidice, SHARPs.)

P.S. My Chemical Romance is really listed as a punk band. They fit in with the power pop punk bands like Fall Out Boy.

If My Chemical Romance is punk then I voted for George Bush.

Blah... blah.. shut the fuck up.


We should seriously rename this thread "To all self righteous Ass Monkeys, please preach nonsensical idealistic goth culture bullshit here: " ........*sigh* Fuckin' puckered brown star trogs..

Wow, I must be ever so goth. I am the antithesis of the stereotype.
I don't wear black often, do drugs, drink, wear make-up, have piercings or tatoos, I listen to lots of different music, I'm not fixated on death and I do not like to laugh at others misfortunes (unless it is a result of their own stupidity).
I do most of the 'real' goth things, except wonder why people watch TV. I know that, it's because it's entertaining and a nice way to unwind.

Please, extreme intellectualism? I find their intellectual saavy to be dedicated to one branch of things, things that tend to be self-righteous. Like writing about their feelings, and other esoterical nonsensical rubbish.

*bump* I answered "yes" to 15 of those 17 questions. And I don't usually dress like a goth. So I guess my gothic friends are right--I am one at heart.

Yay!
 

OK, Bumping this up- it was a decent thread for the "What is Goth" questions and debate.

There was algo the Goth yadda yadda MEGATHREAD LOLz!!11! :P

Yeah, there was UberGothage a'plenty. But this one was actually a decent start for those who stared into oblivion and HIM stared back...

Haha, I'll take your word for that. I never read the other thread.

When you use read the other thread, the word "read" is interpreted loosely. More like having your eyes assaulted and vinegared.

Nice, but there is more to poetry than just rhyming, and please post it in the "Reincarnation..."

:D

You have too much free time. XD

Does anyone else have problems loading anything from blood-dance.net? It won't load for me, and hasn't loaded for a couple days, since I started trying to get back on it. It makes me worried :S:(

Haven't been able to visit that site for months.

Given the recent upspring of threads about goth, I decided to bump this.

So, bump.

Good call. I thought I was avoiding a lot more topics than usual.

Read it and found it intriging, so....

*Ba-hump*

Wow, I never knew I had so many "goth" tendencies... That's pretty creepy.

Hump-de-bump, bitches.

I answered yes to every single question. Wow...


Kay :-D

Oh wow that is me. I am a VERY curious person, have been writting stories/poems/drawing ever since i can remember, and do have a certain degree of intelligence. I can be a pretty philosophical person as well, but thats how i've been like even as a kid.
Wow about 15 out of the 17 points describes me. LOL.

"Goth is a subculture based on a musical style.

I can also see how a lot of people might get this impression. A lot of otherwise decent sources of information on Goth and its more recent history offer this myth up to us as fact. It may even very well be part of the truth for some Gothic orgins in some parts of the world, but it is predated by the emergence of Goth as culture rather than Goth as musical genre in America (at the very least). The media (read record labels and associated musical rags) started this, and I find it disgusting that so many people feel the need to perpetuate this myth that the musical genre started Goth as opposed to Goth starting the genre.

Many sources including the Usenet's alt.gothic group even go so far as to say that the actual cultural origins of Goth were a later fable added after the supposedly music-based trend happened.

This is absolutely false. Before there was a so-called Goth sound, we had dropped the title of New Romantics and firmly settled on calling ourselves Gothic. The culture pre-dates the musical genre by a good two years. I should know. I was there. Honest. "


Does this wise 'net user speak the truth?
Having read it's shaken the very core beliefs I've had about Goth and where it came from...

...My God! I need to wash my mouth out with soap and apologise to some people!

Goth is a skinny man with very large black hair and tight vinyl pants tucked into 12-buckle boots sitting on a throne ornamented with gargoyles in a deep, dark cave preaching to a group of 13-year-old Mansonites about the good old days and how nothing is worth listening to since Bauhaus broke up. After uttering something profound, he keels over dead, taking out three of the Mansonites in the process, but leaving his makeup flawless.

bump.

this one should be stickied, anyway.

saves time.