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Versus 11-13-2012 06:03 PM
Seriously. He is a troll.

Miss Absynthe 11-13-2012 06:38 PM
Totally.

But, wrt to the rrape comments, I'm never ever going to leave something said that promotes rrape-culture.

...as for the rest of it, the students at the Uni are in exams at the moment and I have nothing to do at work. Chatting to trolls is more interesting than dusting a bookshelf.. again.

Versus 11-13-2012 06:58 PM
I need to read the last few pages, then.

Miss Absynthe 11-13-2012 07:47 PM
Ha.. have fun.

Versus 11-13-2012 08:21 PM
Oh fuck whoever is the douche bag with that troll account. I'm looking at you, AshleyO.

AshleyO 11-13-2012 09:28 PM
What the actual coked up fuck?

...I don't think rrape culture is something to even troll about.

pothead 11-14-2012 06:45 PM
I seriously don't think what all they call **** is ****

Miss Absynthe 11-14-2012 09:14 PM
What would you define rrape as?

pothead 11-14-2012 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Miss Absynthe (Post 703594)
What would you define rrape as?
what the bible calls rrape . which it's not legitimate if she does not cry for help, or if she was during the so called rrape and she said no while it already started, and a rrape is well when a person is in a city and cries out, or says no, while she is being attacked, and if she is unconscious then that is rrape but not if she was drinking and consented and passed out during sex, that is not a rrape

Miss Absynthe 11-14-2012 09:59 PM
So, you don't believe that someone should be able to change their mind about something?

pothead 11-14-2012 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Miss Absynthe (Post 703597)
So, you don't believe that someone should be able to change their mind about something?
when it comes to changing your mind about righteousness, no I don't

pothead 11-14-2012 10:33 PM
like turning away from righteousness

Miss Absynthe 11-14-2012 11:00 PM
So, you don't believe in that people have free will at all?

pothead 11-14-2012 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Miss Absynthe (Post 703603)
So, you don't believe in that people have free will at all?
before your saved you don't have a free will to do good, but after your aved you are free to do good, but you can't turn around and be lost after your saved you don't have the free will to do that after your saved

Miss Absynthe 11-15-2012 12:31 AM
Hebrews 6:4-6 (NASB)
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For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame.
"...and then have fallen away"

So, your bible says that you can be saved and then be lost again.

It also says that if you change your mind that it's impossible to be saved again - which would imply that there is something that your god can not do. Therefore he is no god.

QED.

pothead 11-15-2012 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Miss Absynthe (Post 703608)
Hebrews 6:4-6 (NASB)


"...and then have fallen away"

So, your bible says that you can be saved and then be lost again.

It also says that if you change your mind that it's impossible to be saved again - which would imply that there is something that your god can not do. Therefore he is no god.

QED.
but we read that it is impossible to fall away, in the bible it also says no power can separate us, from being in Jesus, which means being saved, and sin is a power so no sin can, and you sure don't have the power to separate your self , for one the bible also says you are not your own you are bought with a price , and the bible in many places calls sin a power, like romans 6:14 and 1 cor 15:56 .... so no you can't loose salvation because hebrews 5:9 says salvation is eternal, and Isaiah 51:6 says salvation is forever, no strings attached

Miss Absynthe 11-15-2012 09:00 PM
So, you're saying that the bible is contradicting itself.

pothead 11-16-2012 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Miss Absynthe (Post 703690)
So, you're saying that the bible is contradicting itself.
no but the bible tho does say that if you could loose your salvation then you can never get it back , more less

pothead 11-16-2012 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Timeless Rebellion (Post 703438)
http://www.foodiggity.com/wp-content...-Komondoro.jpg

I present to you, further proof of His noodly design!
humans designed that not fsm stupid !

Miss Absynthe 11-16-2012 01:45 AM
::bumping the actual threads so that they're slightly easier to find in amongst the flood of spam... mmm... spam.::

pothead 11-16-2012 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Miss Absynthe (Post 704065)
::bumping the actual threads so that they're slightly easier to find in amongst the flood of spam... mmm... spam.::
I like spam, hey you want to help me kick these guys off of here bye giving them infractions for there bad images ? how many infractions does it take , and from who ?

Miss Absynthe 11-16-2012 01:50 AM
You said that the bible says that it's impossible to lose your salvation, and that the bible says that if you *could* lose your salvation that you couldn't get it back.

However, the verse from Hebrews doesn't say that.. it talks about specific people who HAVE lost their salvation.

So, either your interpretation of the text is wrong, or THE ACTUAL TEXT is wrong.

Which is it? Are you wrong, or is the bible wrong?

pothead 11-16-2012 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Miss Absynthe (Post 704074)
You said that the bible says that it's impossible to lose your salvation, and that the bible says that if you *could* lose your salvation that you couldn't get it back.

However, the verse from Hebrews doesn't say that.. it talks about specific people who HAVE lost their salvation.

So, either your interpretation of the text is wrong, or THE ACTUAL TEXT is wrong.

Which is it? Are you wrong, or is the bible wrong?
well I said the bible says if they could loose their salvation. regardless the group of people talked about there didn't eat the heavenly gift they just tasted of it, they never actually consumed it, so there fore they were not really saved to begin with because they just tasted it.

pothead 11-16-2012 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Miss Absynthe (Post 704065)
::bumping the actual threads so that they're slightly easier to find in amongst the flood of spam... mmm... spam.::
you like spam ?

Miss Absynthe 11-16-2012 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by pothead (Post 704079)
well I said the bible says if they could loose their salvation. regardless the group of people talked about there didn't eat the heavenly gift they just tasted of it, they never actually consumed it, so there fore they were not really saved to begin with because they just tasted it.
It says that they partook in the spirit. But the rest of the bible says that once someone is given the holy spirit that they are reborn.

Another contradiction?


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