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Godslayer Jillian 01-06-2009 10:33 PM

ALSO:
Instead of bullshitting your way out of being liable to your word, you could tell us what the fuck makes your mentality different than the cops you can't stand

Pig cop - That protester attacked me with what could have been a lethal weapon. I fired in self defense.
Deadman - That cop attacked me and probably had a lethal weapon. I fired in self defense.

They're exactly the same. How the fuck can you justify yourself?

Instead of compensating for your small dick with false bravado, dehumanization, and death threats, how about you fucking man up and stand by your word?

Deadmanwalking_05 01-06-2009 10:37 PM

And after I try to defuse the situation you continue on with the insults,yet I'm the Idiot?

I'm done with this bullshit,because that's all it is.

Back on Topic.

Godslayer Jillian 01-06-2009 10:40 PM

Defuse, as in, not justify yourself and trying to pretend you're the bigger man?
Don't embarrass yourself.

Deadmanwalking_05 01-06-2009 11:26 PM

You've shown me to be the bigger man,because not one but two posts of nothing but Insults.

I've explained myself more than enough,I don't pull a gun to settle things unless it comes down it,and the thing you don't seem to get is I said "If Someone tries to stop me and pull me out of or off of my transport,they will get copper coated candy as a lovely parting gift" Where the fuck did I say "If a COP pulls me over I'll shoot them"

Did I mention the word COP anywhere in the post that got this shit storm started? (Just read post #108)

No I said SOMEONE (How you got cop from that is any ones guess,because it was a vague statement)

And you seem content to draw your own conclusions,yet I'm the one with Pig Cop Mentality?

Godslayer Jillian 01-06-2009 11:33 PM

Wow, you're really stupid. First of all, you didn't say "someone" you said "they". Who are they? Those who would stop you to ask for papers and you'll tell them Fuck You.
Stop trying to find a loophole.
And even then, your excuse is "I wouldn't just shoot cops, I would shoot just about anyone that does what needs be done for me to kill them"?
Seriously? Your tactic is to prove me wrong by saying you're even worse than I give you credit?

And how is drawing my own conclusions pig cop mentality? You're terrible at trying to twist someone's words.
You have a pig cop mentality because you arbitrarily choose when it's time for you to shoot someone. Fuck that shit.
Fuck you. you're as pathetic online as your in real life.

Deadmanwalking_05 01-06-2009 11:45 PM

Just show me where the fuck you got the word COP anywhere in post number 108?

Go ahead.

I'll wait.

Ya' nitpicking little bastard.

Godslayer Jillian 01-06-2009 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadmanwalking_05
And when someone stops me and asks for papers my response will be "Go Fuck Yourself!"


If they try to pull me out of my car,or off my ATV they'll get a lovely parting gift of copper coated candies.

QED, bitch.

Deadmanwalking_05 01-06-2009 11:50 PM

But I didn't say COP did I?
you stupid bitch

Godslayer Jillian 01-06-2009 11:52 PM

Woah woah woah, why are you calling me a stupid bitch?
Why are you taking my talking so fucking personal, show me where the fuck I said Deadmanwalking_05. You know, with you not giving a flying fuck to the most obvious context, tell me where the fuck you can know I was addressing you, you stupid bitch.

Deadmanwalking_05 01-07-2009 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
Woah woah woah, why are you calling me a stupid bitch?
Why are you taking my talking so fucking personal, show me where the fuck I said Deadmanwalking_05. You know, with you not giving a flying fuck to the most obvious context, tell me where the fuck you can know I was addressing you, you stupid bitch.

I called you a stupid bitch because,you didn't prove that I said I would've killed a cop in post #108.


and it seems that you can't take it when someone calls you on your shit,and catches you up in it.

Like I said before this isn't going anywhere,but further south, I'm done with this,and moving on.


Back to the topic in the O.P.

Pro-gun/Anti-gun

jack_the_knife 01-07-2009 01:40 AM

Deadmanlosing, It seems to me that you're backpedaling to try and claim that you didn't mean "police officer" by using the word "they". But, everyone that read this thread knows exactly what you meant. So I suggest you stop digging your hole any further.

Wednesday Friday Addams 01-07-2009 01:44 AM

yeee harrr I'm a tough guy for sure.
Better not get me angry cause Il shoot ya full of lead before you can say Jesus.
No dam law enforcing pooper goin to get in my way
All I need in my life is me shirt and a case full of guns.
YEE HAAARR

JCC 01-07-2009 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadmanwalking_05
But I didn't say COP did I?
you stupid bitch

What, like the ice cream man is going to stop you and ask for I.D.? You're a dumb fucker.

Also, I feel like I have to intervene and point out that 'police officer' and 'the police' are two entirely different concepts, 'the police' is a corrupt organisation, a 'police officer' is an individual who may just have the wrong idea on how to help their community, so let's not get into the bullshit of hating individual cops for being cops.

Deadmanwalking_05 01-07-2009 07:04 PM

Implication can be viewed any way the reader wants, the fact is I still didn't come out and say "I'll kill a cop for asking me for my papers"

"They" could mean anyone,as stated before it's vague,and for good reason.

Godslayer Jillian 01-07-2009 07:35 PM

Because you want to shoot anyone that asks you for papers? Even the .00... percent chance that it won't be a cop?
You don't deserve to have guns, you're too stupid.

PortraitOfSanity 01-07-2009 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wednesday Friday Addams
yeee harrr I'm a tough guy for sure.
Better not get me angry cause Il shoot ya full of lead before you can say Jesus.
No dam law enforcing pooper goin to get in my way
All I need in my life is me shirt and a case full of guns.
YEE HAAARR

I love you....

Underwater Ophelia 01-07-2009 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadmanwalking_05
Implication can be viewed any way the reader wants, the fact is I still didn't come out and say "I'll kill a cop for asking me for my papers"

"They" could mean anyone,as stated before it's vague,and for good reason.

Wait, is the reason you were vague so that you can bullshit like you aren't saying something insane and hicktastic, or is the reason that you believe you're entitled to shoot anyone, so you didn't want to get specific?

ArtificialOne 01-19-2009 05:32 PM

I feel sad for the people who wouldn't do everything in their power to protect themselves and their family from any threat. For me this includes any normal weapon legally bought or improvised on the spot to do the job. That inlcudes firearms, bladed weapons etc.

If I could but into the above screamfest.^ Let me ask why these discussions tend to lean toward us vs them. Them being cops or govt. IMHO it's quite juvenile. ok resume

ArtificialOne 01-23-2009 07:56 PM

Came across this site while looking for a local incident that happened today in the city I live in.

has a lot of great accounts for pro gun

http://www.claytoncramer.com/gundefe...1_archive.html

CptSternn 01-26-2009 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ArtificialOne
I feel sad for the people who wouldn't do everything in their power to protect themselves and their family from any threat.

Does that including moving to somewhere safe? In Ireland, we had like twelve gun deaths last year, where America had tens of thousands.

If your so worried about safety and being protected from thugs with guns, why not move to somewhere there are no guns and no gun crimes?

JCC 01-26-2009 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtificialOne
Came across this site while looking for a local incident that happened today in the city I live in.

has a lot of great accounts for pro gun

http://www.claytoncramer.com/gundefe...1_archive.html

The second article:

Quote:

Homeowner Shoots And Kills 19-Year-Old In Self-Defense

Police said a homeowner shot in self-defense when armed suspects tried to rob him overnight.

Shortly before 10:30 p.m. Monday, 67-year-old Douglas Dabbs pulled into his driveway on Tobylynn Drive and was getting out of his pickup truck when two armed men came up to him and tried to rob him. The two men were identified as Nibeyu Demissew Yosef and Jermichael Jerome Burgy.

Armed with BB guns the two men demanded money from Dabbs. Dabbs said he reached into the console of his truck, retrieved a handgun that fires .410 shotgun rounds and opened fire on the two robbers.

Yosef, 19, was wounded and transported by ambulance to Southern Hills Medical Center where he died shortly after arriving.

Burgy, 23, took off after the shooting, but police later tracked him down at Southern Hills where he was recovering from a non-critical gunshot wound to the head. Police said that Burgy admitted to being with Yosef during the robbery attempt, so police charged him with attempted aggravated robbery.

Police also said that Dabbs does not have a handgun carrying permit, but no charges against the homeowner were anticipated.

Burgy has been lodged in lieu of $80,000 bond. A convicted felon, Burgy had previously been found guilty of aggravated assault in 2006 and has been on probation for that offense. Burgy also has convictions for unlawful gun possession and driving without a license.

Yosef had been issued a total of four state misdemeanor citations in 2007 and 2008 for driving without a valid license.

Police said they were looking into whether this overnight robbery may have been linked to other robberies in the area, or whether this robbery was a random or targeted attacks.
I'm convinced, trigger-happy old idiots who haven't even got a license shooting teenagers sounds like a great way to run things.

Underwater Ophelia 01-26-2009 09:02 AM

First of all, only one was a teenager.
Second, THAT DOESN'T MATTER.


They were both over 18, and they both knew that what they were doing was wrong, so don't pull that "they were only children" shit.

JCC 01-26-2009 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Underwater Ophelia
First of all, only one was a teenager.
Second, THAT DOESN'T MATTER.


They were both over 18, and they both knew that what they were doing was wrong, so don't pull that "they were only children" shit.

I wasn't going to pull that "they were only children" shit, do you really expect that from me? My point is that this guy shot someone dead when he didn't even have a gun license and ArtificialOne is proclaiming that it is a victory for gun laws.

Underwater Ophelia 01-26-2009 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCC
I wasn't going to pull that "they were only children" shit, do you really expect that from me? My point is that this guy shot someone dead when he didn't even have a gun license and ArtificialOne is proclaiming that it is a victory for gun laws.

Yes I do expect it from you.
You already did it.

Why mention that they were teenagers (which is incorrect, as only one was) if it doesn't matter?

JCC 01-26-2009 09:54 AM

I don't know, I just did it. But I wasn't making any statement by it.

ArtificialOne 01-26-2009 01:31 PM

Didn't say anything about victory for gun laws. Was just adding to the pro gun side of the debate.

But if you think you're safe anywhere from anything, think again.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...78ZiAD95UT2F81

CptSternn 01-27-2009 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtificialOne
But if you think you're safe anywhere from anything, think again.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...78ZiAD95UT2F81

Heh, thats a great quote. The right-wing in action.

FEAR! BE AFRAID! YOUR ALWAYS AT RISK!

Vote for me! I'll protect you! Buy this crap! It will keep you safe!

It's all shite. Live life, don't worry about people who live in such a fear-mongering world trying to bully people by making them to afraid to leave their homes.

I don't need a gun to walk the streets and feel safe. I have a personal feeling inside that transcends the fear the right-wing try to tell me is around me everyday.

I have what they obviously don't, faith in my God to the point that I know I don't need a gun to leave the house.

Tis funny though how the right-wing hop on the religious bandwagon, then tell everyone to be afraid.

Me? I just think about Psalm 23:4.

Deadmanwalking_05 01-28-2009 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Underwater Ophelia
Yes I do expect it from you.
You already did it.

Why mention that they were teenagers (which is incorrect, as only one was) if it doesn't matter?


Because Underwater O-It's all for the children.

Deadmanwalking_05 01-28-2009 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtificialOne
Didn't say anything about victory for gun laws. Was just adding to the pro gun side of the debate.

But if you think you're safe anywhere from anything, think again.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...78ZiAD95UT2F81


And a pistol or shotgun would've helped stop that sick bastard in his tracks.

Albert Mond 01-28-2009 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadmanwalking_05
And a pistol or shotgun would've helped stop that sick bastard in his tracks.

Too bad the babies weren't armed.

Deadmanwalking_05 01-28-2009 04:18 PM

I was talking about the folks that were in charge of the kids safety.

LaBelleDameSansMerci 01-28-2009 04:33 PM

Too bad they didn't want to risk the kids getting a hold of the weapons and end up hurting each other.
You know, just on the off chance that someone would come in and do a stabbing rampage on a nursery.

Deadmanwalking_05 01-29-2009 12:25 AM

If the care giver had been carrying a Concealed handgun on their person,that wouldn't have been an issue.

The firearm wouldn't have been laying about for a child to get hold of.

jack_the_knife 01-29-2009 01:00 AM

Man, your solution to everything is some type of gun. I bet you get up in the morning and want to cut some bread to make a sandwich. "Fuck knives, they kill babies. I'mma makea my sandwich with mah trusty 12 guage".

Stormtrooper of Death 01-29-2009 09:15 AM

I'm more anti gun than I used to be.

nis~sijai 01-29-2009 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack_the_knife
Man, your solution to everything is some type of gun. I bet you get up in the morning and want to cut some bread to make a sandwich. "Fuck knives, they kill babies. I'mma makea my sandwich with mah trusty 12 guage".

Jack, you silly goose. Eveyone knows that a 9mm is more than enough to handle a simple sandwich; a party sub on the other hand....

Deadmanwalking_05 02-06-2009 05:01 AM

Thought I knew it all at your age too kid.

JCC 02-06-2009 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadmanwalking_05
Thought I knew it all at your age too kid.

Old people think that you're a drooling idiot too.

nis~sijai 02-06-2009 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadmanwalking_05
Thought I knew it all at your age too kid.

Age is irrelevant as long as you acually know what you're talking about.

CrimsonPythonidae 02-12-2009 12:32 AM

Probably not. I already have fired guns, but they were licensed and we used them out in the bush where there are no people for hundreds of k's. I'm over it, I have far better things to do with my time. People who always really want to fire guns and are that passionate about them are scary and I don't understand it.

I'm eternally grateful to have been born and live in a country where gun laws are tight. It is a good thing to not let people own guns. No one should really.

CptSternn and Ms.Crowbar are both spot on. The statistics really do say it all, and I like the idea of people not being cowardly and paranoid to the point where they feel they have to keep guns in their houses.

Albert Mond 02-13-2009 06:56 AM

Here's the best argument against guns ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK_KRiUivmI
Skip to 8:06.

CrimsonPythonidae 02-13-2009 06:53 PM

Nooohhh!!! Poor Glim-glim! I liked his cute voice.

Albert Mond 02-13-2009 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonPythonidae
Nooohhh!!! Poor Glim-glim! I liked his cute voice.

...And all he wanted to do was save humanity and say 'Merry Christmas'. I'ts tragic.

Deadmanwalking_05 02-18-2009 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by nis~sijai
Age is irrelevant as long as you acually know what you're talking about.


Well then kid what is your knowledge of the subject?

Underwater Ophelia 02-18-2009 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Deadmanwalking_05
Well then kid what is your knowledge of the subject?

So you expect him to say EVERY SINGLE THING he knows about guns, statistics related to guns, people using guns, and psychology?

You're dumb.

Deadmanwalking_05 02-21-2009 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Underwater Ophelia
So you expect him to say EVERY SINGLE THING he knows about guns, statistics related to guns, people using guns, and psychology?

You're dumb.

Nope just asked a question.


I missed you too cutie.

jack_the_knife 02-22-2009 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Deadmanwalking_05
Nope just asked a question.

Your questions are too generalized and your opinions are shit. Go away.

dbts 03-27-2009 04:41 AM

I'm pro guns.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. - Thomas Jefferson

mirandaluna 03-27-2009 11:33 AM

I have no problems with guns as long as they are used responsibly. My dad taught me to shoot when I was in middle school and while I do not own a gun now, I have to say it really did teach me a lot of respect for safety and responsibility.

Deadmanwalking_05 04-15-2009 03:33 AM

Nice to hear Mirandaluna .


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