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Wow...just read the whole goth with a sledge hammer thing. That is probably the best thing I have ever read about goth. That is how I view it, but I half expected this group to be about teenagers that like black and pissing off there parents, and not about what it really is. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to read it.
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I have to say I enjoyed the posts at the beginning of the thread even though I am now well beyond list conformity. It is just nice for me to see that others despise the mainstream as much as I do, and even those goth poser types out there who probably lack any gothic tendencies at all.
The one thing that bugs me though is age discrimination. People tell me that Goth is a youthful fad and I tell them that they are vapid slugs. (Okay, no I don't ... I resort to profanity because they don't know what vapid means). I know this is a miniture rant, but I may have missed it being addressed here but the age discrimination thing really chaps my ass. |
I know...I guess I just don't look at it that way because I don't look at birthdates. In fact, I find that I tend to gravitate towards the generation preceding mine (which I suppose would be the Hippie generation, since I am in what they call Generation X) or even those that are older for better conversation on the whole. naturally, this is not an exclusive view because I also find more than a few such persons on the web as well. I am just so sick of everyday culture, the rat race, the mundane, netspeak, and cliches...
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After looking at some of the posts by 13 year olds I can't honestly blame you. I suppose I'm glad I'm 14 now.
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I miss Dustin_theskatergoth666 XD
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For me "Goth With A sledgehammer" had a fairly good impact on my life. A friend of mine from california sent me a .txt file of it and after reading I wanted to learn a little bit more because it made a lot of sense.
So, due to my curiosity I googled "goth with a sledgehammer" and one of the links on the first page pointed to a somewhat obscure forumn thread, that had to do with whether or not goth's should be christians or something of that nature. After reading for a bit and looking around the site I decided to join, and thus began my interactions with those among the site of gothic.net. The reason I say it had a fairly good impact on my life is because if I hadn't came upon this site I wouldn't know all these beautiful creatures that our species calls females. I wouldn't have had some intellectual conversations with a few people or even had some nice debates about novels or poems. This is a great site for those who are very into literature, just socializing with others around the same knowledge base, or just to debate out politics. |
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I love it when that happens. It pretty much makes me feel warm and fuzzy on the inside.
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Its All Over! Nooo!
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I agree with Saturnine. I've stopped labelling myself as goth as such. Firstly because yeah, the "hardcore kids" would kick my ass so bad for giving them a bad name, and also because wearing the label "goth" always leads to people jumping to conclusions that I'm going to fit their dictionary defenition steriotype of goth. Can't you just simply exist as who you are and not care about fitting in. Sure, being goth is usually meant to be because you don't *want* to fit in, but you're just fitting in with all the other people who are "unique-- just like everyone else." And "Empty Purple Stars", if you really do conform to the bunch of people who state they don't conform to all these steriotypes you posted, how can you say "I've been goth for X amount of years"? What you're saying is that it's not an attribute, but a way of life, and being. And so you can't really pin it down to a date when you "turned goth." And being goth is different things to different people! I'm sure there are people who don't conform to your "Goth With A Sledgehammer" checklist who could be described as goth. And if these "skin-goths" take delight in calling themselves goth, then let them be! It's none of you're fucking business! If they're so insignifigant to you, then why are you big-noting the posers? They're only posing if they're being something they're not.
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You know, I've never really labeled myself as gothic. (I'm not a skinhead either. I have happened to have known some Skinhead Against Racial Predjuidice, SHARPs.)
P.S. My Chemical Romance is really listed as a punk band. They fit in with the power pop punk bands like Fall Out Boy. |
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Blah... blah.. shut the fuck up. We should seriously rename this thread "To all self righteous Ass Monkeys, please preach nonsensical idealistic goth culture bullshit here: " ........*sigh* Fuckin' puckered brown star trogs.. |
Wow, I must be ever so goth. I am the antithesis of the stereotype.
I don't wear black often, do drugs, drink, wear make-up, have piercings or tatoos, I listen to lots of different music, I'm not fixated on death and I do not like to laugh at others misfortunes (unless it is a result of their own stupidity). I do most of the 'real' goth things, except wonder why people watch TV. I know that, it's because it's entertaining and a nice way to unwind. |
Please, extreme intellectualism? I find their intellectual saavy to be dedicated to one branch of things, things that tend to be self-righteous. Like writing about their feelings, and other esoterical nonsensical rubbish.
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*bump* I answered "yes" to 15 of those 17 questions. And I don't usually dress like a goth. So I guess my gothic friends are right--I am one at heart.
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Yay!
OK, Bumping this up- it was a decent thread for the "What is Goth" questions and debate.
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