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Did I say anything about the fucking NWO? No. I was just stating what is really going on as of now. So back off. |
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So you didn't advocate for 'one sole government' but you do advocate for specifically 'representational democracy coupled with a strong mixed economy'? Why have representational democracy and not direct democracy? How do you arbitrate the size of this representation? Why a mixed economy? Why tolerate capitalism at all? Why tolerate SOCIALISM at all? You offer no answers but you still arbitrate on this specific type of government all the same. Why not just let the people figure out their own solutions with their own community? You yourself admitted that what works for someone might not work for the next one, yet you do not seem to follow this to its conclusion. Just what does my city have to to with Joker's city or HP's city or your city that it has to play by the same game of representation (or, historically in the case of my county, underrepresentation) as yours? |
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And although Nixon couldn't cover up Watergate, that doesn't mean our government is so completely stupid as not to cover up something bigger. Plus Nixon was a terrible President who couldn't do anything right anyways. |
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You don't need to use THIS model of the chip, you could come up with something more advanced using a different medium, it doesn't have to be radio waves.
Within a few years, people will WANT to have these chips, it would seem to "make life so much easier" for them. Plus it's already in passports and other things. |
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The NWO probably would use chipmunks. The bat shit crazy paranoid fellas would surely never expect that.
You don't need to use THIS kind of chipmunk, you could come up with something more cute using a different DNA treatment, it doesn't have to be purely breds. Within a few years, people will WANT to have these chipmunks, it would seem to "make life so much cuter" for them. Plus it's already in childrens books and other things. |
JCC: Don't bother, it won't help.
Storm: Go listen to Crustthrashdeathdoomgrind or whatever perverse amalgamation of meth-fueled music it is you listen to and leave the politics to the Anarchists. Methadrine: I love you. That made my day. |
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I offer this, as a useful little sign for half the paranoid morons in the thread.
For everyone else, please pin this to your nearest paranoid conspiracy theorist. |
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You're assuming that both "legs" are the only ones that can possibly exist, that both are equally sturdy, and that both are expedient. Even assuming that only one is sturdy and expedient means nothing if you can't prove it. |
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So now I'm not entitled to an opinion anymore? Is it that I'm not a "real" anarchist? What has been everybody's deal with me lately? I'm being treated like a fucking leper. Now I'm not try to bust your balls, I just want. some answers. |
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So, yeah. You're not a "real" anarchist, as if you believe in NWO shit, then you're just pissed at the world because of your own delusional idiocy and not because of a legitimate socialist concern. NWO? Just with that you're more akin to Alex Jones than Emma Goldman. |
The anarcho-capitalism of paranoid nut-jobs ISN'T real anarchism. Since the conception of anarchist theory it has been anti-capitalist and collectivist from one extent to another. You can't throw yourself into the mix with Alex Jones and Ron Paul-ites withou being extemely individulaist and propertarian. Oh, also retarded.
Why do anarchists drink aweful tea? Because proper tea is theft. Pun aside, back to the need for anarchists and anarchism as a movement. Direct action in the workplace is the best bet for creating real change, at least in America. Right now the working poor mostly beleive that their destitute poverty is entirely their own fault and have little to no unity with one another. It's not realistic to expect them to join any of the socialist parties in America because they haven't been given the opportunity to understand how socialism works. Bourgeois assholes yellling at them that they're bad people for working at Wallmart or in a coal mine isn't going to change many people's minds on the subject. Direct action, weather occupying a workplace or simply creating a collectivised organization that can give back to the community in some way (after school/summer places for kids, GED preperation or adult literacy programs, homeless shelters or soup kitchens for the homeless or underemployed, whatever) is a more effective form of activism than the afforementioned screaming nonsense at working people trying to stay alive. All of these programs would be modified of course from the usual structure in order that the people usingthese services contribute to them in some way (you can eat if you help in the community garden, you can help other people study for the GED once you've been moving along, you can stay herre as long as you need as long as you help keep the place clean and livable, etc) You can show how autonomy works without a bloody revolution that would easily be squashed by the military and police. |
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Direct action is rarely effective.
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Direct action in the sense of insurrectionist anarchism, yeah. But direct action in the form of affinity groups and guerilla resistance, it's the only type of radical action that DOES work.
Then again, here we're talking about stuff like French opposition to Nazi Germany, Greek anti-fascism, and the Chinese revolution. For a first-world country, it's not that direct action is ineffective, but rather that effective direct action is completely pointless. |
The instances you describe are massive community efforts. Most direct action is a small group of people with no community support doing something daft so they can brag about their contributions to social upheaval.
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Exactly, so you're talking about insurrectionary anarchists, and that's giving them the decency of believing they're doing that because of a real insurrectionary philosophy rather than, as you said, to 'brag about their contributions to social upheaval.'
That still doesn't mean direct action is wrong. It just gets co-opted by the stupid and loud and we forget its real value. |
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I just like to research conspiracy theories, becuase I find it to be interesting. Somethings do sound interesting, and so I research them further. I consider myself to be an anarchist-pacifist, NOT an anarchist-captialist. so don't lump me into a group when you haven't asked me anything. |
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This is true, but, anybody can be a pacifist as well.
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