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And by extension you have no problem with Robbery,R*pings,Murders,Home invasions,Kidnappings,or Child Molestation ? |
Once again, you have proven yourself to be a fucking idiot.
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I was only asking Questions Jill.
Not assigning any guilt,only questioning your stance on the subject? |
Bullshit. Hey deadman, are you against the government of America? Are you therefore against America and everything which the government of America stands? Then you are in favor of gay bashing, ****** teenagers, killing black people, eating babies, and murdering people for fun?
Yeah, that's totally an argument. Respond!! I'm only questioning you. You're your own individual FOX News. "I'm not implying anything, but if you let me ask you why are you against freedom?" Fucking idiot. |
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I don't have a problem with anyone on the basis of Race,Religion (Or the lack there of),or Sexual preference. I'm not in favor of Child Molestation or R*pe in any way shape or form,the same goes for murder,Home Invasions,and Kidnappings. I feel that people should live as they want to live,and respect others rights. I am not for forcing anyone to do anything against their will,if a few wanted to live in a socialist society that's fine as long as they only take voluntary members,and respect the rights of those that don't share their views. Still waiting for your Answers Jill. |
God, you're a fucking idiot.
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Nope,just showing how much of a hypocrite you are,I don't have a problem answering questions Jill,I seemed to have answered most of yours.
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Which is why I'm glad that you are where you are and have no bearing on what rights others should and should not have in this country.
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Either you're asking me a question you already know the answer because that's all you have, or you are genuinely that stupid. Meanwhile, you actually equated my disbelief in what you stand for for my being in favor of murder, ****, kidnappings, and robbery! Anyone else knows exactly why you're an idiot. All these posts are just my effort to let you know too. |
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Seriously, Deadman, where are you getting these ideas? |
I was mildly amused. British? No, I actually am an American citizen. But why should I care for the Constitution to the point of consider it sacred?
As you pointed out no one needs to believe in the Constitution 'in order to believe those things are wrong', especially when we remember that the constitution only details the fucking division of powers. They only included civil rights and liberties as an addendum we now know as the Bill of Rights. It wasn't part of the Constitution. That Deadman still talks about Constitution Constitution Constitution like that makes me wonder if he even know what the Constitution actually says. |
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What's so frightening about it?
The fact that I think everyone is born to have the same rights as others? Because if that's what scares you so much you need to re-evauluate yourself. |
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Because it shows you lack the guts to state exactly what you feel is right,and when a "Man" can't or won't say what he stands for,he offers the answer to everything,which is NOTHING. |
At least the Hippies had some gumption about them back in the 60's.
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I never asked you a legitimate question. I just flipped your own question to show how idiotic and fearmongering it is. AND YOU ANSWERED IT ANYWAY! You fail twice! And I already answered your fucking question, and that you ask me to answer it again shows you that: - you're an idiot in that your question is nothing but bullshit rhetoric - you're an idiot in that you actually asked an anarchist if he wanted a one world state - you're an idiot in that you didn't see I already respond you |
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You seem to have something to hide though. |
I have answered your questions. It's stupid that you keep saying the same thing; seriously, it's sad.
On the other hand, you made fucking idiotic questions. Then when I flipped them you fucking responded them, another example of idiocy. And then, somehow, you claimed you won't answer these questions you answered to which I didn't demand an answer. What's your IQ? |
If I've proven myself to be an Idiot,then why are you still talking to me.
Seems like a conversation between two idiots if you ask me. Or is one pretending to be an idiot just to drive the true idiot crazy? How smart are you feeling right now Jillian? |
You Claim to be an Anarchist but you have no idea of proper implementation,and the repercussions of Anarchy.
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He deadman, I propose something. I'll stop calling you an idiot by not addressing you until you can make an assertion that is based on anything.
Just about anything, but back it up. Your pathetic ad hominems and pretensions of moral higher ground are becoming tiresome. See you when you can make a half-smart argument. |
I am a man of my word Jill.
The Best thing that has ever came from Anarchy.... (I will copy and paste this message Unchanged in the Pro/Anti Thread.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Constitution The Reasons I link Anarchy to early U.S. history should be pretty clear. The King of England and his regime were harshly taxing the Colonists,and in turn the Occupying British soldiers had more than worn out their welcome. The Boston Massacre for Example. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party Followed shortly by The Boston Tea Party. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party The Colonists sought to Govern Themselves,and form their own Nation with their own system of Government,the Crown didn't Agree and wanted to keep as much control as possible. So...we have the American Revolutonary War (A.K.A. The U.S. War For Independence). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Revolutionary_War Which leads Back to this...the best thing to ever come from Anarchy. The U.S. Constitution. The Fore Fathers were Anarchists to the Crown or English Parliament. And by going against the End Result of the very thing you claim to be,shows you for the moron you are. So again Jill how smart are you feeling now? __________________ "The Answer To 1984 IS 1776" I may be crazy to a few...but at least I'm Committed. |
I laugh at your excitement of so pathetic an argument that you couldn't wait and PMd it to me too.
Exactly my answer to this in the PM: Much smarter than you. You're still a fucking idiot. The English Crown wasn't taxing Americans to death. Do you even know what you're talking about? Americans were taxed less than a fourth of what the British themselves paid as taxes, and taxation only began after the war with France. We might have just seen what happened to America without the British forces back then, huh? And no, the forefathers were not anachists. They were capitalists and capitalism is irredeemable among anarchists. Besides, the 'forefathers' were self appointed, and only a third of Americans actively wanted to war against England. How smart are YOU feeling right now? |
They were being forced to pay a tax without representation,which the Colonists didn't pay,and because they didn't pay, it resulted in a state of Anarchy (In the form of a War with the English Crown).
And after that state of Anarchy (Because the Outcome of the War was in doubt for awhile),they decided that the best Government is hardly any Government at all but laws for the people to interpret as they see fit. But not to force their Interpretation on others. And you get the U.S. Constitution. Which you seem to hate. |
Let me ask you something. Why do you believe the Constitution is anarchist and makes a small government when all its articles except the amendments are nothing but a detailing of the State's permanence?
Your talk about the constitution having to do shit with freedom is laughable. |
The Bill of Rights Wasn't tacked on as an after thought,but as a Check and Balance for the Citizens against a Government with too much control.
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The Constitution came from Anarchy I didn't say that it was an Anarchist document.
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Oh, and just a small comparison for a concerned American citizen at ye olde yokel from the Antipodes: Transparency International Corruption Perception Index: New Zealand = 3 with 9.4 United States of America = 20 with 7.2 |
The possibility of perversion does exist,but that goes with any form of Government.
That possibility is avoided though as long as people remember that others have the same rights. Those that ignore the rights of others,get what they deserve. |
I tend to think that, with the way things are going under this new administration, that we are very well on our way to a more socialist-type government, to be honest.
There's just far too many folks who would rather have the government make their decisions than deciding things for themselves. I. E., our government's already been corrupted, because that's what happens to people when they gain that much power. |
And they can continue to be part of that Government.
I won't. |
Deadman: That's fine; you can move to a different country that isn't socialist when the time comes. =) Or, if you insist on protesting instead, make it a peaceful protest, please.
Me personally, I would probably just take my husband and move to Jamaica or something. XD XD XD |
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Having representatives (less than a tiny fucking percent of the total population) meet up and write out how the country will run and how EVERYONE will live, even in the BAREST BONES, is not anarchist by nature. They're bloody governing other god damn people. I'm half awake and half sober and I still think your arguments are shit-tacular. Not ONLY did the constitution NOT come out of anarchism, they founders were UNanarchistic. The fact they made a federal government, shit, ANY government. How about the electoral-fuck-college? How about the fact the freedoms were itemized (meaning there is inherently a limit). How about you think of a good argument and stop asking Bill O'Reily to think of your snappy comebacks. |
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Like really, I can understand arguing for and against things like universal health care and welfare, but you still have it amazingly lucky compared to the countries you apparently want to retreat to. I'm sure you can suck it up and get a free trip to the doctor when you need it rather than when you can afford it, rather than enjoy your privilege as a foreigner in another country where others suffer horribly because of their controlling governments. |
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That's why it wouldn't bother me in the Least to stand and fight with everything I have left.
That's why I'm staying,there is no free land (To me that is) left in the world. and I would rather make my own choice instead of have it made for me. Those "People" that don't want to live by their own decisions,are Sheep of the first order,and probably wouldn't know how to function in a truely Free society. (Just my Opinion) |
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But what's the point of this? By that same logic the Constitution is humanist because it was written by humans and evolutionist because it's the only way we would have come about. |
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What you are completely failing to grasp Jill,is the fact that maybe the framers of the constitution and Bill Of Rights had seen Anarchy in all it's blood riddled glory on the battlefields that were now their front yards (Respectively,I'm not that far off),and just maybe they came up with a better way in those two Documents. The Constitution is a big frame work for a big government,but it's the usage of the B.O.R. that limits the Government growing out of control,instead of questioning what was said we went along with it,until I think it's time to use the B.O.R. (In as peaceful a way as possible) to end what's currently going on. Or to lose it and by doing so accept any fate that a Jack Booted Thug (J.B.T.) feels is necessary. I'll stand and try to use the B.O.R. in as peaceful a way as I can. But If/When the peaceful way fails to work,they will have one tough son of a bitch to try and kill. |
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Ideally, I would take my husband to a deserted island and make our own private getaway where no one else would be allowed unless we let them in. |
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You have done far more to show your true character than I ever could. Thanks for showing your true colors,I knew you would sooner or later. |
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