Thoughts on gay marriage?
 

So im writing this report on homosexuals, and im to the part on gay marriage and adopting children and I so, whats your veiws on it? Do you think that they should be allowed to get married and should they be allowed to adopt children?


Have any of you heard of Matthew Shepard?

yes, of course gay persons should be allowed to get married and adopt children. why not?

twisted, there is already a thread on gay marriage, but I will still give you my views.

As I am bi, I believe that gays should be able to marry their partners. They should also be allowed to adopt children, because children are a precious gift and there are thousands in orphanages all over the world.

I know who matthew shepard is. I am actually crying now as i remember what happened to him. Ignorance is a terrible thing, and those homophobic motherfuckers should not be allowed to live. I say we take them curbing and give them the chair after every gay person in America has spit in their faces. Have you heard about www.godhatesfags.com ? It's a despicable website, run, by of all things, a church. They even have a little picture of Matthew shepard with the number of days he's been "burning in hell" under it. It also has scriptures, mostly from liviticus, stating things about the uncleanliness of homosexuality, or other such rot.

People suck.


I'm just a little pissed right now.

Not completely because of what happened to Mr. Shepard, but today a boy i have been assigned to sit next to called one of my best friends a ******, just because he wears demonia boots and wears makeup.

oh ,and by the way,

I think they should be able to, It's the government that thinks otherwise. I don't see the big deal in why they can't. Then again I don't consider my seld Christian and they have some problems with homosexuals...

My first post was before I read yours, *hugs* I didn't mean to make you cry, but I to cried last night when I was adding stuff about him in my report. I hate people, how could some one do that to someone else because they were homosexual? My best friend is homosexual and I love him to death. If any one ever hurt him... .. oh i would be bad...If i lost him I would have nothing, so who knows what I would do. People will do some crazy things when they have nothing to lose.

I've never heard of that website.

And, that kid that sits next to you should be slaped.

::hugs back:: it's ok. I cry easily. tell you what. Anyone tries to hurt your friend, we'll gang up on their skinny ass!! And i did feel like slapping him, but I already have a cut beneath my lip from fighting and i promised my mom I would behave myself. I did trip him though. :D

The ugly wigger bastard. :shock: :twisted:

HEH, If some one hurt my friend he would have a big problem, a lot of people like him... Wiggers are even worse, my school is over run with them. They are fun to mess with tho...

That pic that you posted is adorable.

I think wiggers are funny. they just act so stupid sometimes...heehee

Innit it though? I have a ton of pics, I'll pm you my sn if you have aol, and i'll give you some more I got.

there are tons of sites you can get them off.

that one was those guys of the used, apparently they make out on stage all the time...

Ya i got AOL Moonlit Tears666

ooh!! oooh! I want your screenname fenris!!!

K...SwordofFenris im me anytime...

Mmmm... it's a little unfair to say "the government doesn't want gay marriage." "The majority of the government?" Yes. "The (whole) government?" No.

There are many government officals who make up the government that support it. Dick Cheney, Vice President of the United States of America, supports gay marriage ("Freedom means freedom for everyone"). Several congressmen, such as John Lewis and Barney Frank (who's gay, himself), support gay marriage. There are many governors who also support the issue, such as (of all people) Jesse Ventura. So it's not like the entire government is all on the same boat when it comes to this issue.

Sorry, it's just that statements like that make it sound like there's no one in the government fighting for gay marriage when there are.

I am for gay marriage and for allowing gay people to adopt children. I don't see why anyone has a right to deny a person happiness. I would go into more detail but I did that when I wrote an essay about gay marriage for my English class.

I personally don't have a problem with it.
But don't you think calling someone a wigger is just
as ignorant as calling someone a faggott. If your goin
to get bent out of shape because someone is prejudging
or hurling around insults maybe it's a good idea not to
be hurling them around yourself or simply don't complain
about someone else doing it.

Pro gay marriage

Pro adoption by gays

I think most gay couples would be a hell of a lot more stable than some straight couples I see having children.But that's just my opinion.

i just checked out that website FenrisQueen mentioned, and that is some wicked twisted shit. puts the god in gothic. do these people really believe in that stuff? and why oh why are they so concerned about what goes on between their neighbors' sheets? christians are spooky.

As is your generalization of Christians.

you're right! christians, like my generalization, are spooky. but what about the other sentences in my paragraph? do you think those sentences are spooky like christians too?

Dcreep, The only reason Im using the word wigger is because that is how the kid describes himself. I dont particularly like the word, but he uses it all the time and doesnt find it offensive..

I think I should go back and look into bexxle's views on homosexuality.

no need to get nasty, al.

i sure have learned a lot from all this.

Making a crack like "christians are spooky" is just as ignorant as "all fags are going to hell".

I am preparing for oWnag3...

i will modify my generalization
- a lot of christians i know are spooky - (plus a little mean).
nothing ignorant about that, and don't you think "all fags are going to hell" is a bit more acerbic and hateful than "christians are spooky"?
ps - do you have any crack?

No pepito, I threw it out along with your SHIFT key.

I think it’s unfair to say that Christians are “spooky,” its really just a bunch of zealots who are giving Christians as a whole a bad name. Personally I’m not Christian but I have many friends that are, its just evangelicals that seem to want to legislate morality. Sadly about forty something percent of the U.S. describe themselves as being evangelical/born-again Christians, which really worries me.

christians i know are not generally followers of christ. they are more like paulians or peterians. i find that many of them prefer to quote from scriptures that are either pre- or post-jesus, as you can see on the website that FenrisQueen mentioned earlier. i've found more "christ-like" attitudes to be present in buddist or hindu communities abroad than here in the usa. do christians even like jesus? and back to the topic, i think jesus would not be concerned with gay marriage or gay adoption, but i don't know, i'm not jesus, and neither is anyone else.

Christians that don't follow Christ? Wow...this has got to be one of the most retarded things ever uttered since.....no, I can't think of anything as retarded.

As for quoting scriptures pre and post Christ? Well, that's the entire fucking bible, dude.

Just because a bunch of hateful fucktards like to use the term "christian" as a security blanket doesn't mean that their actions are based on christianity. That's just like saying all muslims are fanatical anti-american flat-earthers....as much as you'd like to believe it, facts tend to prove you wrong. And when facts prove you wrong, the best course of action is to rethink your position.

Sorry there, Limbaugh Jr, but your hate-mongering and loose understanding of concepts make you look like more of an idiot than you probably are...of course, I am willing to be wrong in this case.

As far as the "fags marrying' thing is concerned....can we either merge this with the already existing gay marriage thread, or at least re-name this thread "beating another dead horse"?

how about we just beat a dead horse? i LOVE it when the flesh splits wide open and blood and offal spurts everywhere.

that's hot.

Ugh!!! You pervert!!



Well, I like it too, but that is not the point e_e! There are minors!!!!


Ahh fuck . Just ignore what I just said. YOu know I don't really mean it... :D

i've found more "christ-like" attitudes to be present in buddist or hindu communities abroad than here in the usa.

This generalization is truer in some areas than others.Sadly, I live in the Buy-bull belt, both mine and my husband's family think I'm going to hell when I die because I'm not christian.

:P

Personally, I'd rather be in hell if heaven is going to be as lame as it was always described to me.I'd rather not feel obligated to forever kiss the ass of some awesome being.And don't get me started on the 'no sex' thing!

I'm glad that I'm not the only person that finds most christians 'spooky'.

::hi-fives wolfie::

Yay! WOlfie, lets see what happens! We can either go to hell together, or reach the summerland and reincarnate!

It could possibly be that what was meant by that statement was that buddhist and hindus are more christian in their nature than those that claim to be Christians and discriminate left and right, up and down.... they do the hokey pokey and... *cough* uhh... nevermind.

no, no...continue...










::crickets chirp::

I'm hoping for reincarnation.But then I always wonder why?If the afterlife is supposed to be better than what we have on earth why wouold I want to experience things here again?Perhaps because what we actually are given isn't so bad that we'd turn our backs on it forever?

Fuck it!I'm turning into a vampire!


:roll:

Maybe you just couldnt stand heaven? Vampires....*sigh*

I dont know exactly where i stand on the actual issue but im sick and tired of hearing about how sodomy is sin and homosexuals burn in hell. The whole argument (in my opinion) of the agaist side is religion. Christianity isnt the only religion, and just because the greater part of america is doesnt mean the rest of us are. Id be more sympathetic if it wernt churches doing most of talking. So i guess im saying do what you want, and fight for your rights. Did i mention im a moron?

no, your not a moron. You prove a good point

Aren't we all...
Most religions have the same attitude to homosexuality as Christianity does, so it's more accurate to say that just because most Americans are religious, doesn't mean we all are.
Eh... I wouldn't. I'm not trying to say your opinion is bad, just that it's not the religious aspect that bothers me-it's that I simply don't see any reason for it. I have not heard one single rational, provable defense of why homosexuality is a sin-things like murder and pedophilia are immoral and sins, and we know why. There are practical reasons aside from solely religious beliefs. Homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone, it doesn't infringe on anyone else's rights, so even if atheists were leading the charge against homosexuality, I'd still be pissed at them. Obviously this wouldn't happen, but just saying that for me, the problem isn't religion, it's the prejudice itself.
No, but we figured that out on our own. [Joke!]

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~thier/ee/
- this site exhibits some of e.e. cummings' poetry. you might be enlightened rather than prescriptive.

WTF?

What the fuck are you talking about pepito?

Like your life partner bexxle, I don't understand a fuckin' word you say.

1. e.e. cummings also refuses to follow the grammatical conventions of capitalization.

2. people who believe that it is "ungrammatical" or "wrong" to type without capitalization are labeled "prescriptive grammarians" because they believe that there exists a right and wrong in language. the opposite is a "descriptive grammarian".

check out cummings despite what you think of me.

i laughed so hard when i read this, al. mainly because i also got angry trying to decipher the cryptic blah-blah-blah pepito/jiggle laid down.

whatever your rationale, jiggle - no one can get inside your head to figure out the INTENT of your words. explain yourself, boy.

Good lord, Edible, it's obviously not very difficult to decipher his wording. You just have to take a couple of drugs. Bexxle was unintelligible even with the aid of medication, whereas Spoon is merely speaking stoner.






*note:although many people in this forum are probably heavily medicated and/or using excessive drugs, I am in no way encouraging drug use of any kind.

You may find this ironic, but I ama *huge* fan of cummings' work. His was one of the first poetry books I ever owned, one of the first poems I ever memorized was one of his. However, there is a time and a place for the artistic license that cummings takes in his poetry. When you're *not writing poetry*, for instance. Especially when *you're not e.e. cummings*, and comparing yourself to one of the greatest poets of modern times... makes you seem like kind of a dick. You don't want to seem like a dick, now, do you?

well, look at it this way, teapot. Maybe he gets off on being a dick. Maybe he-yeah. Let's just leave it at the first sentence, shall we?

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Someone rang?

i have been thinking for a while now about gay marriage in particular (excluding for the moment "gay couples adoption rights") and have been trying to view the issue from both sides. i just can't. personally, i have no problem with anyone wanting to marry anyone else, as i've stated before, but the thing is i simply can't wrap my brain around any reasonable opposition. to me, it boils down to consent between two people and doesn't have much to do with anyone else at all. what is the argument against gay marriage anyway? i've heard that it threatens the "sanctity" of marriage, but honestly, what's being sanctified in a marriage anyhow?

church and state are supposed to be seperate. part of the reason they cant get married is because christians useually dont think its right. if the church and state/country were seperate gays would prbably be able to get married, also getting married in other religions would be official, like i dont think that hand fasting is considered official by the government.
I hope i didnt get any facts wrong (this is just what i think i know?) any ways yes they should be able to marry

Remember that marriage started off, and is still mostly reguarded, as a religious institution. But anywho, if you don't like the U.S. stance on gay marriage, you can go to the UK or France where... oh wait, that's right. They don't have it there either.