My God...
 

Holy fucking hell; I don't even know what to say.

:eek: :( Oh gods that's horrendous I'm so sorry. Rats are well known for attacking weak animals ( in the wild, but domestic rats still have all the same instincts of course ) and eating them. Quite a few don't realise. They will take young bird chicks if they can get them, or if they fall from the nest ect.

How on earth did your brother's rat get to the rabbit? Why was the rat loose?????

This is awful I can't even begin to know what to say that would offer any comfort, other than that although her death was unpleasant and horrific, she isn't in pain anymore.

The little douchebag didn't lock the cage up, out of spite for my sister. They'd gotten into an argument, so to get back at her he just let his fucking rat loose.

I am so sorry to hear of your loss. I have found several of my hamsters in the same.. condition, and it's always horrendous. I really do know how it is, and right now, I wish I could give you a hug. :(
I know it probably won't make you feel any better, but I can tell you that it was a quick and painless death.

If there is anything I can do, and any more support I can give, let me know. I will be praying for both you and your bunny.

That really is a shame, and I feel bad, but I feel I need to say: don't blame the rat.

It's just an animal, and it didn't do anything out of malice. Be angry at your brother's irresponsibility, but don't hate the animal.

Having your face chewed on while alive is hardly going to be a quick and painless death... unless the poor thing was high on morphine or similar.

This is what I will call my next album.

I don't blame the rat as so much as I blame my stupid brother. But how would you feel if an animal fucking murdered one of your closest pets? I doubt you'd feel inclined to show it affection, Ophelia. It's an at-the-moment feeling.

My dad wanted to get rid of it and throw it into the woods, but instead I sought to find it a home. I'd hardly call that hating, when I could very well let the animal suffer in the wild, and most likely be eaten by a predator than cared for by another human, where it's guaranteed a good, stable home.

I would like to point out that I didn't say you should show it affection, but you did in fact say something to the effect of, "if I see that rat," which led me to believe that in your emotional state you may be inclined to harm it, which isn't right.

No matter how distraught the incident has made me, I would never, ever harm an animal or any other living thing, even if I was pissed beyond all heavens at it.

Mir-The rabbit most likely had a heart attack and died before it had to suffer much of what the rat did. Most rodents react in such a manner when threatened and cannot flee.

Noir-I am so sorry. I truly hope that you are doing ok, even though you've lost your bunny, and I do hope your brother sees the fault in his actions and apologizes, at the very least. I know how it is to lose a pet and good friend, not to the extent you do, but just know we're all here for you. *HUGS*

A rabbit is not a rodent. It is a mammal. Also, I have not been able to find any sources to back up the claims you have made. Mind pointing me to some?

Rodents are mammals.....
Anyway they used to be classified as rodents until they got their own family group for rabbits and hares.

Man, my brain seems to have gone south.

I have been looking this up and most people argue that rabbits are not, and never were rodents.

Well, how 'bout a reference to the heart attack thing?

Watership Down is scary.

"Rabbits and hares were formerly classified in the order Rodentia (rodent) until 1912, when they were moved into a new order Lagomorpha. This order also includes pikas."

Dam you edited..

I did not know that. Thanks for all that.

One of the arguments I found compelling were that rabbits = omnivorous, rodents = herbivorous. Perhaps that is why they changed their classification, because they were wrong?

And they have an extra pair of incisors and have other skeletal/structural differences.

Your trying to tell me rats aren't omnivorous ?
Anyway their skeleton structure is quite similar, Just like most mammals really.
Remeber not all bears eat meat. Yet they are part of the order Carnivora.

"rabbits = omnivorous, rodents = herbivorous."

I meant, rabbits = herbivorous, rodents = omnivorous.

Still struggling with sleep.

I'm sorry.

I am sorry Noir. It always saddens me to learn an innocent and vulnerable entity died, and worse, died a preventable death. :hugs:

I hate rats.
Dirty little bastards.
If you want, you can borrow my friends 3 meter long Python. I'm sure it'll swallow the rat whole.

That really has to be one of the most insensitive and pointless comments ever created.

I'm sorry that you lost him to such a cruel fate, how is your other rabbit doing? That would be just one scary and unfortunate sight to see.

He sees a rabbit in a condition you usually see reserved for horror novels and he isn't fazed by it? How old is your brother, because if he is young it's natural instinct to feel for another living being and if he doesn't something is seriously wrong with him. If he is older it's possible to not find it disgusting but the fact that he didn't feel responsible for it and thinks he shouldn't be punished suggests he's a spoiled brat. Either way I hope he gets more than just getting sent to his room for one day as punishment.

He doesn't cry over a dead rabbit so he's mentally disturbed? Flawless fucking logic there, Renatus.

It's a bad situation, and I feel sorry for you, but that was the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life.

I am so, so sorry to hear about your loss Noir. This is terrible.

*Hugs*

I never said disturbed, I said spoiled, "thats flawless fucking logic there, JCC".

I am so sorry about your rabbit.

Siblings can be horrible sometimes, I'm sure your parents will sort him out. Hopefully he will realise what he's done very soon.

Also, you never said he should have cried, just that he should have been fazed/bothered/felt responsible.

Not to sound insensitive, but that's a fucking epic rat. I've had a few rabbits before, and when threatened or scared they can turn brutal.

I understand what it's like to lose a pet, so for that I'm sorry.

I think it was mentioned, though, that the rabbit was sick (had a bad leg.....) so that might have affected its agressiveness.

If that wasn't sad enough, the insensitivity on your brother's behalf just drives it home...

Was he ever punished or did he ever give a remotely sincere apology?

I'm very sorry to hear about your dear bunny, I know that loosing a pet is never easy and the cause of death must have made it that much more painful. I wish that there was something I could do or say to ease your pain, just know that my thoughts are with you.

What? Asking her if she wants to borrow my mates python?
I hate rats! They're so... dirty.
Anyhoo.
Methinks that your brother needs to realise what he did. He needs to realise that he made a mistake.

I'm so glad someone else was thinking this. If it had been first to draw blood or something instead of to the death, I would have totally wanted to watch that fight.

Rats aren't dirty by nature, certainly not moreso than rabbits. They've just garnered a negative reputation, most likely as a result of their unfortunate role in the spread of the black plague and the fact that their tails aren't fluffy.

Rats tend to be quite clean critters, much more so than many other pets

... you're a complete idiot, you know that right?

"He sees a rabbit in a condition you usually see reserved for horror novels and he isn't fazed by it? How old is your brother, because if he is young it's natural instinct to feel for another living being and if he doesn't something is seriously wrong with him."

You said that there's something seriously wrong with him, because he's not all upset about a rabbit.

That's bullshit.

I get upset over loss of any animal life. Its not something I can control.

Well pardon me if I made a mistake in my wording which made you mistake what I meant(it happens all too often) but your response was unnecessarily rude.

I think it's rather unneccessarily rude to accuse someone you've never met of having something very wrong with them on the basis of their apathy towards rabbits. Some people just don't care about animals, others do, and putting something like "Oh, at his age it's NATURAL to feel something for animals" doesn't make it right or scientific, it means you're pretending that it's scientific.

Also everyone seems to be so busy consoling L'Oiseau Noir to think that it might've been an accident. Shit happens.

People forget things, and don't bother telling me that you've never forgotten something like that, because unless you write out a schedule for the day on your eyeballs, you're going to forget something at one point.

Well you weren't exactly expecting the rat to be a rabbitarian, were you? It's in its nature. If anything the rat probably felt threatened itself, though the workings of the animal mind are hardly my forté by any stretch.

And you expected me to know this how? Besides, people do and say dumb things when they're angry, you've been saying some silly things yourself in your annoyance.

Facepalm/ you missed the meaning behind me post, so three strikes this pointless argument caused my your misunderstanding is over.

Domestic rats still have the instinct to attack and kill something weaker than themselves even if it is much bigger. They have adapted in the wild to be omnivorous and have been known to take bird chicks that have fallen from the nest, and will also eat roadkill ect... Domestic rats will generally accept and enjoy meat if it is offered or, given the chance to get it in some way. Sadly for L'Oiseau's rabbit it's natural instinct clearly kicked in.

JCC, Renatus.. QUIT ARGUING. The bunny has passed away, and Noir didn't come here for the two of you to argue. You have the ability to PM. USE IT.
Lillith.. Shut the fuck up. You are terribly insensitive and have no clue what you're talking about.

Everybody who wants to talk about something besides comforting Noir, take it somewhere else.

Noir.. darling.. I know how you feel. My brother is never grounded or punished, either. If you want to talk/rant to me privately, just drop me a PM. If you want to talk on the phone, just let me know. I'm here for you, okay? *hugs*

What did Lillith say that was insensitive? I'm hardly her greatest fan, but why is everyone getting all testy with her over what she said?

We quit arguing a while ago, stop flogging the dead horse.

Also, stop acting like the Net Gestapo.

My neighbor's cat brought me a baby bunny yesterday, and I was pretty horrified so I picked up the cat and put it inside. The bunny was just laying there and I thought it was dead, but then I saw it breathing slightly. I wanted to keep it, but it hopped away after I pet it twice. I'm glad it's okay, though.