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Elysiume 10-29-2008 09:08 AM

Religious Symbolism?
 
I'm not a Christian, but I often wear an intricate silver cross on a chain for the aesthetic. A lot of my non-Christian friends also wear one, some out of satire. People often question me about it, and I explain that I am not Christian but I mean no disrespect, unless they are being aggressive about it which really irritates me. Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone had opinions about wearing crosses or other religious symbols (like pentacles, ankhs or inverted crosses)?

PortraitOfSanity 10-29-2008 09:36 AM

I don't have a problem with it until people start putting meanings on the symbols that are clearly wrong. I hate seeing "Satanists" wearing ankhs, pentacles and inverted crosses. I hate Wiccans wearing well... anything, since their whole religion is bullshit and they have no claim to any of the symbols I see them wearing.

jack_the_knife 10-29-2008 10:48 AM

I don't wear any religious symbols whatsoever since I have no interest in religion whatsoever. :)

Underwater Ophelia 10-29-2008 11:11 AM

I think it's tacky to wear religious symbols you don't believe in, but I don't actually care very much.

Elysiume 10-29-2008 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by poisonedblueeyes
well i like to wear a lot of black eyeliner at times to show my religion is emo

Please choose a scene (preferably NOT this one) and stay there. You simultaneously declare that you are both scene, goth and emo. My poseur senses are tingling...

HumanePain 10-29-2008 12:39 PM

I love religious symbols as fashion accessories! Seriously, if I could get away with it I would dress as the Pope. What a hat! Or at least as a friar. Stop traffic I would! Heehee.

PortraitOfSanity 10-29-2008 12:49 PM

I'd skip on the hat, and just drive the car.

Pope-mobile GOGOGO!

Oh and random question: I wanted to get one of those slick black shirts with the white collar that the priests wear, is that "allowed" or what? Could I take out the white insert/collar thingie and be safe?

Noirette 10-29-2008 12:53 PM

I like the way they look, but I won't wear a symbol of a religion I don't believe in.

HumanePain 10-29-2008 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PortraitOfSanity
I'd skip on the hat, and just drive the car.

Pope-mobile GOGOGO!

Oh and random question: I wanted to get one of those slick black shirts with the white collar that the priests wear, is that "allowed" or what? Could I take out the white insert/collar thingie and be safe?

Sure! That was quite the rage during the late 60's as the "Nehru jacket":

http://www.bondbros.ie/_images/_eveningWear/even3.jpg

PortraitOfSanity 10-29-2008 01:04 PM

I like that pic, but that's more a jacket, I was just looking for the dress shirt type thing, to wear with my black trench coat.

Geoluhread 10-29-2008 01:45 PM

I like to wear the symbol "the all-seeing eye of God"...

JCC 10-29-2008 01:50 PM

I was going to go to my school's own clothes day dressed as a nun, but opted against it when I remembered that being a Catholic school, they'd go nuts.

Solumina 10-29-2008 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PortraitOfSanity
I like that pic, but that's more a jacket, I was just looking for the dress shirt type thing, to wear with my black trench coat.

...so just get a black dress shirt?

honeythorn 10-29-2008 02:47 PM

I wear a pentacle ring but I am actually pagan (no, not wiccan before anyone throws a shitfit ) so for me it has a meaning and I never take it off. I've never liked crosses to be honest, and also do not care for wearing religious symbols whose meanings I have no belief in.

Necrophagist 10-29-2008 02:56 PM

Iron Cross!

Underwater Ophelia 10-29-2008 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Elysiume
Please choose a scene (preferably NOT this one) and stay there. You simultaneously declare that you are both scene, goth and emo. My poseur senses are tingling...

Um. You can definitely be all of those at once.
I could be considered goth, scene, and emo if you're talking about music and fashion.

MitsyMayhem 10-29-2008 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Elysiume
Please choose a scene (preferably NOT this one) and stay there. You simultaneously declare that you are both scene, goth and emo. My poseur senses are tingling...

I believe you are only a poser when you're not being yourself. If poisonedblueeyes, who annoys me, is being themselves, then they aren't a poser, simple as.

Elysiume 10-29-2008 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MitsyMayhem
I believe you are only a poser when you're not being yourself. If poisonedblueeyes, who annoys me, is being themselves, then they aren't a poser, simple as.

Okay, fair point but it could also mean that she has no real understanding of either subculture, so she calls herself all of them because really she knows she isn't any of them. Which I think would make her a poser, but then again I'm just randomly hypothesising. I don't know this girl well enough to make a judgement about her so I suppose I should apologise. She is still annoying as hell though.

MegearaErotica 10-29-2008 06:16 PM

I like wearing a charm bracelet with Dionysus's dolphins and a necklace with a picture of two people's arm intertwing while holding wine glasses. Another one of my favorite necklaces has the outline of a hummingbird, which is an obscure symbol of Hermes.

Fae-wolf 10-29-2008 07:07 PM

Don't worry about it. If you like, then wear it. I mean, a cross can have different meanings to different cultures. It jus depends who sees it.

Jonathan 10-29-2008 07:07 PM

Out of all the religious imagery I have seen, I really enjoy looking at the Seed of Life / Flower of Life. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_...e#Seed_of_Life

There is just something really visually appealing about it to me.

TheBloodEternity 10-29-2008 07:15 PM

I wear an Ankh for aesthetics.

Once last year someone asked me why I was wearing a cross and I said "it's an ankh" and she said "what? an oink? OMG HAHAHAHAHA. AN OINK". I saw her wearing one last week.

PortraitOfSanity 10-30-2008 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Solumina
...so just get a black dress shirt?

Were you even reading the conversation at all? I want a priest-collar dress shirt, not just a regular dress shirt.

Godslayer Jillian 10-30-2008 05:27 PM

Religious symbolism without religious meaning is dumb.

Cicero 10-30-2008 06:33 PM

I wear ankhs and scarabs because both their aesthetic and what they stand for are pleasing to me. Plus I bought a lot of them from Egypt itself, so there are memories attached.

I used to wear a celtic cross, not because I'm Christian but because I bought it with my grandfather from Iona Abbey, and as a minister and theologist symbols like that were very important to him.

I find personal significance a lot more meaningful than religious, but really I have no problem with people wearing whatever the fuck they want for whatever reasons. Even if it's just because it 'looks cool'.

Solumina 10-30-2008 08:42 PM

The only religious symbols that I have worn were given to me so the significance to me wasn't religious at all

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Originally Posted by PortraitOfSanity
Were you even reading the conversation at all? I want a priest-collar dress shirt, not just a regular dress shirt.

You never specified what type of shirt, different priests wear different types of shirts. What I think you are talking about it a tab collar shirt, which is not just worn by priests and is actually a type of dress shirt, it isn't terribly common but not very hard to find, hell I think JCrew makes them.

PortraitOfSanity 10-30-2008 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PortraitOfSanity
I wanted to get one of those slick black shirts with the white collar that the priests wear, is that "allowed" or what? Could I take out the white insert/collar thingie and be safe?

That's pretty specific, imo.

Didn't know that they were really worn outside the clergy though.

Lolly PopMuzik 10-31-2008 12:57 AM

Really, the furthest I go are ankhs mainly for black expression but I wore a rosary once or twice. I thought of keeping it up but I can't be arsed to buy so many.

The rosary currently rests by my bed, literally next to me.

Joker_in_the_Pack 10-31-2008 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Underwater Ophelia
I think it's tacky to wear religious symbols you don't believe in, but I don't actually care very much.

I avoid wearing band patches/shirts/buttons that I don't listen to, much less religious symbols.

Solumina 10-31-2008 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by PortraitOfSanity
That's pretty specific, imo.

Didn't know that they were really worn outside the clergy though.

Well the white collar isn't actually part of the shirt (and unless they are marketed as a clergy shirt the white collar will not be included) so all that I really had to go on was slick black shirt *shrug* no big deal. You most likely wouldn't notice one if you saw it because unless the button on the neck is done it just looks like a button up with somewhat of a high neckline and slightly smaller than average collar, they also come in many different colors and fabrics if you want something besides the basic black.

crucifix 10-31-2008 09:12 AM

I am an atheist, but I love the catholic aesthetic in some jewelry and I also like pagan inspired things. I find that aesthetic to be simple and sleek, yet highly expressive.

NightmareInShiningArmour 10-31-2008 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cicero
I wear ankhs and scarabs because both their aesthetic and what they stand for are pleasing to me. Plus I bought a lot of them from Egypt itself, so there are memories attached.

What do ankhs and scarabs mean?
They've always interested me...

HumanePain 10-31-2008 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NightmareInShiningArmour
What do ankhs and scarabs mean?
They've always interested me...

I cannot say about the scarab beetles, but the ankh was a symbol of fertility, of the power of life.

Cicero 10-31-2008 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NightmareInShiningArmour
What do ankhs and scarabs mean?
They've always interested me...

The ankh literally translates to 'key of life'. On the walls of the temples there are ankhs carved absolutely everywhere from the ceiling to the floor, to represent how life is everywhere from the sky to the earth.

Scarabs could represent a lot of things, but they were most often representations of the god Khepri who rolled the sun into the sky every morning (also interpreted as the morning 'incarnation' of the sun god Ra). Overall they're symbols of resurrection, regeneration, and the continuity of life on earth that comes with every sunrise. Mummies were never buried without one.

NightmareInShiningArmour 10-31-2008 11:13 PM

Ahk. I sort of knew about the ankh thing, I just wanted to confirm that but the scarab thing seems to make sense too.
I see why you like them :)

Ryaken 11-11-2008 12:09 PM

I find the whole religious symbol thing rather entertaining, when my catering teacher got back from egypt she gave everyone a bookmark and stuff like that with hyroglyphs (A word I can't spell...) and such on, she saw me walk in in my trench coat and she handed me one but then pulled back, sifted through them and gave me one with an ankh on, saying it must be "More my thing" Which was entertaining.

Also, I wear- Wore... A yin and yang pendant (which went missing so I wore a necklace, which broke last night :'( ) but upon seeing it everyone says 'Oh! peace signs are sooo cool', 'Why are you wearing a hippie thing? STONER!', etc. I take the time to explain things to them to no avail - Same a my sexuality, what's so confusing about liking boys AND girls?!

Malice In Wonderland 11-11-2008 02:02 PM

I'll wear something if I like how it looks...


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