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Sir. Helpmann 11-08-2008 09:08 AM

Why Can't We Say The Word R A P E?
 
What on earth is going on?!?

Albert Mond 11-08-2008 09:16 AM

Because the filter sucks. Rather like your questions.

Sir. Helpmann 11-08-2008 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Albert Mond
Because the filter sucks. Rather like your questions.

You're getting a little too obvious now Albert.

Albert Mond 11-08-2008 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
You're getting a little too obvious now Albert.

You've been fairly predictable from the start. Nice try, though. I guess. Well, not really. But, hey. One lollipop for Lil' Miss Twit coming right up. ;)

Sir. Helpmann 11-08-2008 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Albert Mond
You've been fairly predictable from the start. Nice try, though. I guess. Well, not really. But, hey. One lollipop for Lil' Miss Twit coming right up. ;)

Not really Albert.

Let's be honest; you play little Sir Echo to everything I say (badly might I add), hoping that some frivolous ally will agree with your pathetic take and understanding about rational argument.

I know how internet forums work, or internet based communities in general.

I know that you'll always have the Pseudointellectual who, up to a certain point, has managed through sheer bluff and bombast to hoodwink a collective of morons into believing that they are well-read and versed in the areas that they profess to understand and love.

But honestly, it doesn't work on me.

Go back to trolling newbies and teenagers, you ameteur. You don't stand a chance against the likes of me.

And that's a promise.

(care to name any rare snakes you heard of on the natural history channel?)

Toy Killer 11-08-2008 10:33 AM

Oh Yeah!?! King Cobras can Spit!

I dunno why R@pe is filtered... I imagine they would keep it from being threatened on another person, or generally keep the topic from appearing, for people whom are either disturbed by the idea or have been victimized before.

(As if anyone really feels threatened on an Online forum)

Sir. Helpmann 11-08-2008 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Killer
Oh Yeah!?! King Cobras can Spit!

I dunno why R@pe is filtered... I imagine they would keep it from being threatened on another person, or generally keep the topic from appearing, for people whom are either disturbed by the idea or have been victimized before.

(As if anyone really feels threatened on an Online forum)

As a result of R A P E being censored, a whole wealth of Sylvia Plath poems would be interrupted by censorship.

That in itself is a testimony to the crime that censorship of language imposes on a forum.

Toy Killer 11-08-2008 10:44 AM

Very true, I've never liked filters for the most part, I think that a variation of Forum Moderators and just general respect for the rules should suffice...

Sir. Helpmann 11-08-2008 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Killer
Very true, I've never liked filters for the most part, I think that a variation of Forum Moderators and just general respect for the rules should suffice...

Exactly.

The word "R A P E" doesn't physically hurt someone. But photographs of a 4 year old girl sucking a 12 inch penis does physically hurt someone.

I agree with censorship regarding the moving and still image, since there is so much room for exploitation (paedophillia, *****, teenage porn in general) ... but language?

Language is one of those areas where it's up to you if you're insulted or hurt.

Sticks and stones may break your bones but words will never hurt you.

Sir. Helpmann 11-08-2008 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
Exactly.

The word "R A P E" doesn't physically hurt someone. But photographs of a 4 year old girl sucking a 12 inch penis does physically hurt someone.

I agree with censorship regarding the moving and still image, since there is so much room for exploitation (paedophillia, *****, teenage porn in general) ... but language?

Language is one of those areas where it's up to you if you're insulted or hurt.

Sticks and stones may break your bones but words will never hurt you.

S N U F F is censored?

Some goth forum.

Albert Mond 11-08-2008 11:03 AM

Froze in the middle of a rant. Bugger.
Anyhow, here's a digest:
1. It's pointed out that Tzuchinoko isn't real and that opponent can't even use Google right.
2. Protagonist mocks antagonist's gradual increase in the grammar/spelling after antagonist first spoke to protagonist. Protagonist also mocks antagonist's cluelessness and arrogance.
3. ???????
4. PROFIT!!!!!!!!

Toy Killer 11-08-2008 11:12 AM

...

Nani? Que? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

Cant you possibly take this argument somewhere else? I mean, come on, the man has a serious point that he wants someone to answer on.

Albert Mond 11-08-2008 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Killer
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Nani? Que? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

Cant you possibly take this argument somewhere else? I mean, come on, the man has a serious point that he wants someone to answer on.

It was a stupid question. But, hey. If you actually give a fuck, go ahead rebel against the evil of filters.

Saya 11-08-2008 11:20 AM

Its filtered because we don't want someone typing in "r@pe" into a search engine to come across gnet, not because the word is bad.

Toy Killer 11-08-2008 11:43 AM

ah... Never even thought about that...

Sir. Helpmann 11-08-2008 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Albert Mond
Froze in the middle of a rant. Bugger.
Anyhow, here's a digest:
1. It's pointed out that Tzuchinoko isn't real and that opponent can't even use Google right.
2. Protagonist mocks antagonist's gradual increase in the grammar/spelling after antagonist first spoke to protagonist. Protagonist also mocks antagonist's cluelessness and arrogance.
3. ???????
4. PROFIT!!!!!!!!

Everyone is using 4chan now.

It's a bit like "George Bush is stupid" jokes.

It's simply a way for stupid people to feel smart about absolutely nothing in particular.

Isn't this the second time you've tried to rebuke me with a well known and popular meme?

Tut... tut...

Albert Mond 11-08-2008 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
Everyone is using 4chan now.

It's a bit like "George Bush is stupid" jokes.

It's simply a way for stupid people to feel smart about absolutely nothing in particular.

Isn't this the second time you've tried to rebuke me with a well known and popular meme?

Tut... tut...

Not sure. The lost-in-the-mail post didn't have a meme, though. And I'm not sure how people "feel smart" about 4Chan, as it's pretty rubbish.

Sir. Helpmann 11-08-2008 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Albert Mond
Not sure. The lost-in-the-mail post didn't have a meme, though. And I'm not sure how people "feel smart" about 4Chan, as it's pretty rubbish.

Quite easy to get a rise out of you, isn't it Albert?

Here you are saying how rubbish 4chan is, and yet you use it as an inspiration when it comes to throwing cheap rebukes.

Again, try a little harder.

Albert Mond 11-08-2008 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
Quite easy to get a rise out of you, isn't it Albert?

Here you are saying how rubbish 4chan is, and yet you use it as an inspiration when it comes to throwing cheap rebukes.

Again, try a little harder.

No. It's rubbish as far as educational value. It's rather fun, though. And that reply was a cheap replacement for a better reply.

Sir. Helpmann 11-08-2008 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Albert Mond
No. It's rubbish as far as educational value. It's rather fun, though.

You didn't specify that.

As far as we could assume, it is purely rubbish according to you...

...not looking too good for you is it Albert?

Albert Mond 11-08-2008 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
You didn't specify that.

As far as we could assume, it is rubbish according to you...

...not looking too good for you is it Albert?

If the best you can do is quibbling over a statement I made relating to 4Chan, then I'd say it's looking fine for me.

Solumina 11-08-2008 12:20 PM

The filter was put in place while I was away from the boards so I don't know if there was ever a stated reason for it but I would assume that it is at least in part do to the admin's desire to not be the result of a search engine query for such a word. Though there was also an incident a while back where one member (who was quickly banned) was harassing/stalking another, including such things as saying that he was going to r/ape her and even going into detail about how he was going to do so, so that may have also factored in.

Sir. Helpmann 11-08-2008 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Albert Mond
If the best you can do is quibbling over a statement I made relating to 4Chan, then I'd say it's looking fine for me.

HOW TO APPEAR TO BE WINNING ARGUMENTS ALBERT MOND STYLE:


If you find that you are being beaten, you can create a diversion -that is, you can suddenly begin to talk of something else, as though it had a bearing on the matter in dispute.

This may be done without presumption if the diversion has some general bearing on the matter.

If your opponent has taken up a line of argument that will end in your defeat, you must not allow him to carry it to its conclusion.

Interrupt the dispute, break it off altogether, or lead the opponent to a different subject.

SEE YOU NEXT TIME!

Albert Mond 11-08-2008 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
HOW TO APPEAR TO BE WINNING ARGUMENTS ALBERT MOND STYLE:


If you find that you are being beaten, you can create a diversion -that is, you can suddenly begin to talk of something else, as though it had a bearing on the matter in dispute.

This may be done without presumption if the diversion has some general bearing on the matter.

If your opponent has taken up a line of argument that will end in your defeat, you must not allow him to carry it to its conclusion.'

Interrupt the dispute, break it off altogether, or lead the opponent to a different subject.

SEE YOU NEXT TIME!

You did a rather good job of describing yourself.

jack_the_knife 11-08-2008 12:30 PM

I think both of you insufferable oafs, but then again thats probably just me.

JCC 11-08-2008 12:34 PM

Helpmann is definitely more interesting than Albert Mond, despite getting off to an admittedly shaky start, he has truly come into his own and is a strong contender in Gnet proceedings.

Albert Mond 11-08-2008 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JCC
Helpmann is definitely more interesting than Albert Mond, despite getting off to an admittedly shaky start, he has truly come into his own and is a strong contender in Gnet proceedings.

You're only saying that because I beat you at gay genealogy.

JCC 11-08-2008 12:39 PM

If showing that genetically modified fruit flies being bisexual in a rather hazy experiment proves the gay gene in humans, sure, you beat me at gay genealogy.

That's not true though.

Albert Mond 11-08-2008 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JCC
If showing that genetically modified fruit flies being bisexual in a rather hazy experiment proves the gay gene in humans, sure, you beat me at gay genealogy.

That's not true though.

It wasn't a "rather hazy" experiment. And neither were the other ones. That's just a phrase people add on to any generally accepted area of science which they refuse to accept.

JCC 11-08-2008 12:49 PM

No, it's a phrase I add on when the bisexuality that the fruit flies exhibited wasn't even ruled out before the genetic alteration, which doesn't even verify that a change occurred.

Godslayer Jillian 11-08-2008 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
If you find that you are being beaten, you can create a diversion -that is, you can suddenly begin to talk of something else

Such as... your off-the-actual-argument "how to win arguments" posts?

Solumina 11-08-2008 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Albert Mond
It wasn't a "rather hazy" experiment. And neither were the other ones.

Even though I think you and I were trying to argue the same point I have to agree with JCC on this one. The fruit fly experiment is interesting and can be used as a basis for further experimentation/research but in and of itself it isn't strong enough to provide anything conclusive

Sir. Helpmann 11-08-2008 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
Such as... your off-the-actual-argument "how to win arguments" posts?

I wont even dignify a moron like yourself with a decent explanation until you've actually read a book or two.

Sir. Helpmann 11-08-2008 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Albert Mond
It wasn't a "rather hazy" experiment. And neither were the other ones. That's just a phrase people add on to any generally accepted area of science which they refuse to accept.

So you know a lot of useless information about genealogy... much like Stuart Houston Chamberlain.

But who the fuck honestly can be bothered to read his pathological drivel without laughing?

Godslayer Jillian 11-08-2008 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
I wont even dignify a moron like yourself with a decent explanation until you've actually read a book or two.

I have 43 on my room's bookshelf. Do I get 21 explanations?

Sir. Helpmann 11-08-2008 02:22 PM

The Boasting Traveler
 
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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
I have 43 on my room's bookshelf. Do I get 21 explanations?

A man, who had traveled around the world quite often, returned to his own country.

He was boastful of the many wonderful and heroic feats he had performed in the different places he had visited.

Among other things, he said, "When I was at Rhodes I had leaped to such a distance that no man of my day could leap anywhere near me. There were in Rhodes many persons who saw me do it and whom I could call as witnesses."

One of the bystanders interrupted him, saying: "Now, my good man, if this is true there is no need of witnesses. Suppose this to be Rhodes, and leap for us."

Moral: Let your actions speak for themselves.

Metabolik 11-08-2008 02:24 PM

At least we can say fuck.

Can't you just say forcibly fuck instead?

Godslayer Jillian 11-08-2008 02:31 PM

Dude, the claim that I'm an idiot is not backed by anything except your loud mouth.
I myself think that you're the idiot, and your constant belittling of anything that remotely disagrees with you backs me up.
Yet I don't mention your stupidity as much as you claim everyone else's.
We could, of course, have an actual conversation instead of you immediately reacting with an insult, and judge our arguments' merits. But of course you won't, because the most 'intellectual' topic you have addressed since you've joined is disagreeing with Obama ad nauseum - how smart and non-conformist!

Sir. Helpmann 11-08-2008 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
Dude, the claim that I'm an idiot is not backed by anything except your loud mouth.
I myself think that you're the idiot, and your constant belittling of anything that remotely disagrees with you backs me up.
Yet I don't mention your stupidity as much as you claim everyone else's.
We could, of course, have an actual conversation instead of you immediately reacting with an insult, and judge our arguments' merits. But of course you won't, because the most 'intellectual' topic you have addressed since you've joined is disagreeing with Obama ad nauseum - how smart and non-conformist!

Dismissed till further notice.

Godslayer Jillian 11-08-2008 02:33 PM

^ Proved my point.
Good life. Hopefully someday I'll see you in a good argument with actual thought-out opinions.

Sir. Helpmann 11-08-2008 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
^ Proved my point.
Good life.

IF you had read as widely as myself you would have known that I was quoting you one of Aesop's infamous fables.

But being the utter philistine that you are, incapable of irony, you would have probably taken it upon yourself to inform me and everyone else on the forum the fact that I had just "plagarised" a classic and declare boldly to all "he just ripped that from aesop's fables".

But you couldn't. Even if you could declare that I had ripped that from a piece of classical literature; if you had been given the opportunity and background to appreciate such works of literature you wouldn't have been so quick to act like a fumbling retard in search of a petty argument to fight over.

And there's irony in what I just said that you can't even touch upon.

Dismissed till furhter notice.

Solumina 11-08-2008 02:45 PM

Out of curiosity which fable is that from?

Sir. Helpmann 11-08-2008 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Solumina
Out of curiosity which fable is that from?

Scroll up - it's already mentioned.

Solumina 11-08-2008 02:56 PM

Sorry I misinterpreted your post as saying that dismissed til further notice was somehow the quote and I was more that a bit confused and now feel like a bit of a twit.


I do, however, find it curious that you haven't really followed the moral of the story itself. You boast and yet do not really back up your claims, and you jab at Jillian instead of actually trying to get any information out of him.

Sir. Helpmann 11-08-2008 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Solumina
Sorry I misinterpreted your post as saying that dismissed til further notice was somehow the quote and I was more that a bit confused and now feel like a bit of a twit.


I do, however, find it curious that you haven't really followed the moral of the story itself. You boast and yet do not really back up your claims, and you jab at Jillian instead of actually trying to get any information out of him.

There's no point.

Jillian's simply not educated nor cultured enough to understand my point of view.

This is an internet forum; I don't have the time nor effort to bother explaining everything from the Pre-Socratic to the current day for a moron who thinks he knows something but has merely scanned a few texts suggested to him by like minded losers of like minded mediocrity (in the playground).

He's dismissed till furthter notice.

And until he can actually string together an argument that isn't dependant on his favourite wiki-concept of the week (e.g. objectivity or anything with ad)... I simply will block him out from this point onward.

Unimatrix 00 11-08-2008 04:02 PM

Sir Helpmann this site is a horrific shithole full of uncultured stupid people. Its no place for the likes of us. They were intimidated by me and ganged up on me and bullied me out. Don't let it happen to you. Welcome to the boards xxhugforyouxx

Joker_in_the_Pack 11-08-2008 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
As a result of R A P E being censored, a whole wealth of Sylvia Plath poems would be interrupted by censorship.

That in itself is a testimony to the crime that censorship of language imposes on a forum.

I think keeping Sylvia Plath off these forums is a vote in favor of the censorship of the word ****, not against.

Joker_in_the_Pack 11-08-2008 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Unimatrix 00
Sir Helpmann this site is a horrific shithole full of uncultured stupid people. Its no place for the likes of us. They were intimidated by me and ganged up on me and bullied me out. Don't let it happen to you. Welcome to the boards xxhugforyouxx

You like to beat the shit out of people when they call you a name and pee on people for sexual thrills, please do not call yourself cultured.

TheBloodEternity 11-08-2008 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Unimatrix 00
Sir Helpmann this site is a horrific shithole [.........]Welcome to the boards xxhugforyouxx

Haha. laksjdlasdgafg

$haDe 11-09-2008 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Saya
Its filtered because we don't want someone typing in "r@pe" into a search engine to come across gnet, not because the word is bad.


Sound fair to me.


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