Wearing Black Does Make You Goth...
 

...I'm sorry but this has to be said.

There are a lot of fat, ugly, boring fucktards who think that, because they are too frigid to wear black clothes everyday and adorn themselves with cool hair that they can be considered "Goth" with those who do...

I'm sorry, but you're not goth and never will be.

Seriously... Goth is more than fashion (I'll agree with that)... but if it is a lifestyle and a world view, surely an individual would wear something to reflect this.

So-called individuals who are too timid to reflect themselves via their appearance are so utterly worthless at parties; so utterly introverted that they are not worth anyones time or effort. For as start, these so-called "goth without the clothes" individuals will NEVER be seen in clubs... nor at organised goth weekends... it's as though they only exist on the internet.

So they must be closet goths... not to be taken seriously in the slightest.

On the whole the only people who put forward this stupid argument always exist exclusively on the internet. And they are almost always certainly fat, ugly and boring fuctkards. It's as if the goth movement gives these worthless cretins some hope of joining a subculture that will not "judge" them.

You think Goths don't judge? HA - Goths are the bitchiest, most judgemental pricks on the face of the earth.

Since when did Goth become a subculture for fat, ugly boring fucktards?

I resent that. I'm not fat.

... such a valid point...

I don't think its a world view or lifestyle either. Its just a fanclub for goth music.

No more valid than your original post, my good man.

And yet you felt the need to respond to prop up your post count...

You are an unthinking philistine.

No, I'm just aware that dark thinking, wearing black and being woeful doesn't make one goth if you aren't a fan of goth music. Its like saying you're punk when you don't listen to punk music. The music is first, everything else is trimming.

Who says it has anything to do with my post count?

Oh what a fucking retarded, former-emo fuckstick you are.

The fact that you felt the urge to respod, regardless of how idiotic you found the thread.

The fact remains - Goth is more than just a musical lifestyle. It transcends beyond musical boundries (and judging from most of your musical tastes, are quite ungoth).

Don't even try and counter this - I was wearing black before any of you, and before it was goth.

I was never a Fugazi fan, sir, and I'll have you know I am not mentally disabled. I don't know exactly what a stick of fuck looks like but I somehow don't think I'm that either.

You think calling me Sir will give you the air of the pretentious victorian oh-so-goth flare you aspire to express in your sordid little response?

And don't try and be clever with my posts; you're a semi literate who hasn't even finished school yet.

Case dismissed.

Since 'December 2007'. Couldn't resist.

So were priests. They wore black way before any of us, so they must've been so goth that they... administered the host? Wait... what?

I'm not sure how I feel about the idea that the person who allows 'goth' to describe only his or her taste in music is more the unthinking philistine than the person who grounds his or her lifestyle and worldview in wearing black and being mopey.

I graduated high school years ago if thats what you're implying, although granted I'm not finished my degree yet. And you have "sir" in your name, so I don't think it was out of place.

And you are the pretentious one who thinks wearing black somehow makes you special, especially since you've been doing it before it was goth, yet somehow wearing black makes you goth, so you were always goth, even before goth came?

Oh here he goes Ladies and Gentlemen; off to fight the "good fight"... to defend his internet integrity for the amusement of like-minded morons who might actually take into consideration the sordid and overtly stupid comparisons he may muster.

You thought about this subect for a whole five minutes and think you've come to some interesting conclusions?

I don't give a toss for your internet assembled philosophies on the subject.

Seriously, you need to get out more.

Then why make a post assaulting what you think to be an affront to your "goth" sensibilities?

What is this trashy excuse of an argument? Are you seriously trying to turn the argument aroud in the vian hope you will "catch me out", turning the subject around to an issue you are well versed in?

I stand before you with 4,000 years of academic history behind me to back up my arguments... and frankly I don't think you've lived a life worthy of my attention.

Oh Christ, he's one of those people who thinks they are immortal vampires.

Actually, I was hoping for an honest answer to my question.

What if I'm a fat, ugly, boring vampire?

Then you totally will not be featured in the next Anne Rice novel.

Oh Christ, she's one of those former high school brats who thinks that anything involving lots of zeros must involve vampires.

Fuck off former emo.

Pretty sure Anne Rice only writes about Jesus now anyway.

Yes, and he had killer abs. Coincidence? Not likely.

Why do you think I'm emo? I'm telling you, I know not one Fugazi song, and I wasn't even aware of emo music until recently.

You're the one who says you have 4,000 years of academic history, which I highly doubt since you're here arguing with us about goth rather than out there doing something with that kind of knowledge.

Fuck, can we just stop fighting and get back to vampire role-play? Saya, I get that you're trying to be all PC because we've got that black president and whatnot, but no one REALLY likes fat people.

Oh for fucks sake, are you always such a blemish?

Can't you even address anything without resorting to your timid, third-rate, childlike emo argument regarding everything in particular?

I seriously think you need to buck your ideas and get a cooler set of glasses; your current ones make you look like a fucking librarian in the worst sense.

He's just fucking with us, Saya. I mean, honestly, how is someone supposed to take his responses seriously? He's just trying to get a rise a out of us.

Sir. Helpmann, did you ever see that venn diagram of goth chicks? I can't seem to find it, but it had two circles. One represented "Fat" and the other "Crazy" with a significant overlap. Your post reminded me of that, and gave me a laugh.

I would imagine that the majority of internet goths have never set foot in a club, and would not know what to do inside of one. I'm sorry, but reading the wikipedia entry on goth and downloading some mp3's does not make you anything.

I don't necessarily agree with everything Saya says, but she's generally reasonable.

I do think that one's outlook / personality are more integral to being "goth" than music or fashion. I can be a naked goth in a quiet room. At some point, a certain appreciation for the outward trappings of the subculture come in to play, but I think they are both secondary.

Just my silly opinion, thought I would chime in.

Best regards

If I wanted to get a rise out of you I'd have taken great pleasure in deconstructing the sordid rubbish you spew from your keyboard.

Can't you address anything without resorting to you're piggish, third-rate, childlike trollish attacks regarding everything in particular? And I'm rather fond of my glasses, I shall be keeping them.

@gothicus, you have a black president, we're stuck with Bush Jr.

@ Pinstripes, you don't think I'm half serious either, do you? XD

Go ahead. And, for Christ's sake, stop using the word "sordid" to describe everything. It isn't proper in this context, seeing as though I've said nothing that could be taken as arousing moral distaste.

Your glasses make you look pathetic; you remind me of a substitute teacher whom everyone disrespects, including the regular teachers in the staff room.

and regards addressing the issue; it seems morons like you are incapable of even fathoming what the original point of this is even trying to address, and I frankly see no further point in re-stating the issue for the sake of autistics such as yourself who are incapable of reading.

Gosh you're hilarious, aren't you? I haven't had this much fun trading arguments since I babysat an eight year old.

And clearly I can read if I can respond to your posts, silly :p

With regards Goth, everything you have uttered regarding it is a moral distaste.

Frankly, you're simply not cultured enough to understand the Goth point of view.

A) You aren't having fun; you're simply defending the integrity of your glassses.

B) babysitting eight year olds? Please

C) There is no C because the A was so great.

...?

Shucks. I guess I'll have to try my hand at being a prep. Is it possible to have my Hot Topic store credit transferred over to Hollister?

Lalalalalala

Jebus fuck man quit pussyfooting around do it already. i already have my popcorn ready.

i could be watching Boomerang right now.

A) My glasses have no integrity to defend since they are inanimate and are just meant to help me see after I developed myopia, other than attractive men tell me that they are cute I don't see how they have integrity at all.

B) Every young girl babysits now and then, and I like kids, their logic is so faulty and they resort to name calling when they can't think of a valid argument, which is why I'm feeling nostalgic arguing with you.

Then go watch Boomerang; you think I write for your pleasure?

Sit down child and you shall learn something.

Verdict: No originality, overtly sensitive to comments about her glasses... takes the internet too seriously.


3/10 - COULD DO BETTER.

How have I displayed sensitivity about my glasses? You spent more time talking about them then I have, all I said is I like them and so do attractive boys. And I'm only talking to you as I wait until my ride to a party comes by ;) sorry love, I'm not here for you but for boredom.

What the fuck you think i'm trying to do? Notepad is ready.

So far i've learned that the only goth on GNet is you and goths are the bitchiest, most judgemental pricks on the face of the earth.

What else is there? Enlighten me.

Ah... grasshoppa, you have so much, and also so little to learn: there is nothing else!

Oh, except that you need to make sure that you use the expensive laundry detergents. Washing with the cheap stuff makes your blacks fade quicker, and god help your goth-point tally if that happens.

Goth is also a catch all for pseudo-daddy issues, from my experience. Or is that emo?

Reminds me of the local pagan community- it's about 80% practicing Wiccan/Pagan, about 20% ugly, socially beakward, lonely polyamorist.