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Qgirl 03-18-2009 04:38 PM

Would you fight for your country in a conflict you disagreed with?
 
Soldiers don't generally get to make policy, yet no nation state can function without soldiers. Would you be willing to fight for your country in a conflict you disagreed with?

Godslayer Jillian 03-18-2009 04:43 PM

No. meowrz

Solumina 03-18-2009 06:38 PM

Depends on the situation. If,by some strange twist of fate, I joined the military then I would need a pretty compelling objection to go for a dishonorable discharge instead of fighting, I would have serious moral qualms using the system to my advantage (free medical, free travel, free housing, GI bill, etc.) without fulfilling my side of the deal. On the other hand if there was a draft and I was called up then I would be a conscientious objector and would follow every legal avenue of avoiding service but ultimately I would rather be thrown in prison than fighting a war that I didn't believe in (though I really can't say what I would do because I have never had to make that decision and sometimes a person's actions can be surprising, even to themself).

DRM 03-18-2009 07:07 PM

I would not.

PortraitOfSanity 03-18-2009 07:32 PM

Fuck no, I hate my country.

Albert Mond 03-18-2009 07:43 PM

No. Get the fuck out.

PortraitOfSanity 03-18-2009 07:54 PM

Does Namibia even have a military? Other than like monkeys they use to clear land mines I mean.

Albert Mond 03-18-2009 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PortraitOfSanity (Post 520028)
Does Namibia even have a military? Other than like monkeys they use to clear land mines I mean.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Namibia

PortraitOfSanity 03-18-2009 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albert Mond (Post 520030)

So like.... a largeish police department.

Albert Mond 03-18-2009 08:15 PM

No. A large-ish police department made up of trained monkeys.

Saya 03-18-2009 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albert Mond (Post 520030)

I'm trying to figure out if Namibia has the manpower to overthrow the Canadian army and invade.

Probably.

Joker_in_the_Pack 03-18-2009 08:34 PM

Funny, we actually encountered this question in my History of Western Political Though class.

No, I would not fight for my country if I disagreed with the conflict.

Matter of fact, I wouldn't fight for my country, period.

LaBelleDameSansMerci 03-18-2009 09:55 PM

I doubt I would fight for my country. The idea of killing repulses me, to the point where I will stand for 20 minutes staring at an injured pigeon that is CLEARLY GOING TO DIE, unable to do anything but not wanting to leave it.
That and I hate everything about the military. I don't take well to such rigid chains of command, and uniforms and drill make me cry (I was in air cadets for a year), and wool socks make me scratch my skin off.

Godslayer Jillian 03-18-2009 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joker_in_the_Pack (Post 520043)
No, I would not fight for my country if I disagreed with the conflict.
Matter of fact, I wouldn't fight for my country, period.

I see it backwards:
No, I would not fight for my country if I disagreed with the conflict.
Matter of fact, I wouldn't fight for anything I disagree with, period.

$haDe 03-18-2009 11:01 PM

I'll say no.

I would not fight for my country if I disagreed.


I would not fight if it's not worth the effort.

Beneath the Shadows 03-18-2009 11:57 PM

Yes. If I joined the military, and then such a conflict began, well, I joined, so I have a duty to do. I tried joining the Army in '99. I didn't get in because of a knee injury, but if I had, my time in the Army would have overlapped Iraq. So if I had been deployed to Iraq, I would've gone, because by joining I would have agreed to go where they send me.

Now, if the Iraq situation had already begun, I wouldn't have even tried joining.

Andom 03-18-2009 11:59 PM

No.

Now leave.

Godslayer Jillian 03-19-2009 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andom (Post 520093)
No.

Now leave.

What the hell?

jack_the_knife 03-19-2009 12:56 AM

I wouldn't fight for my country even if I agreed with the conflict in question. I oppose all government funded militias.

Mir 03-19-2009 02:45 AM

We really need to evolve.

Opteron_Man 03-19-2009 02:56 AM

I don't want to do their dirty work.

CptSternn 03-19-2009 03:17 AM

No. . . . . . . . .

KontanKarite 03-28-2009 09:20 AM

Depends on the movement.

Sometimes, fighting for your country means NOT donning the uniform and doing what you can to improve the place and land you live in.

Not every struggle requires you to legally murder foreign and domestic people.

As for fighting in general, NO. If another country comes here and invades, then we should defend ourselves. But for corporate interests and economic interests... nah man, nah.

Alatariel 03-31-2009 11:20 PM

No, I don't think I would.

CrossDream 04-01-2009 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saya (Post 520037)
I'm trying to figure out if Namibia has the manpower to overthrow the Canadian army and invade.

They'd get to the first two hundred kilometers and then give up because it was too cold, and so not worth invading for a hunk of ice.

My answer is no, sort of.

It depends on what I'm disagreeing with. For instance, if my country (Canada) decided to piss on North Korea for some reason, I'd disagree with the Canadian government for attacking North Korea. However, I sure as hell wouldn't sit around and let a North Korean retaliation invade Canadian soil.

However, on the other hand, if Canada called me up to fight and invade Sweden for no legitimate reason, I'd tell them to politely shove several rusty, pointy, bent nails up their collective arses.

Rasputin 05-23-2009 10:28 AM

I will fight for my country, simply by destroying the system, who disagreed with the people, especially us.

Zabijej 06-15-2009 08:44 PM

No.

This is why I believing in outlawing the draft.

If a country wants to fight a war its citizens have no desire to be in, the leaders should take a hint.

DemiGoth 07-24-2009 03:02 PM

Nope, especially since im in the US and we always figth for stupid reasons nowadays.

I mean honestly, we started the war in Iraq and what's become of it? 15000+ dead bodies scattered in the desert. is that worth dying for, or killing for? No.


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