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Espiritu 03-18-2009 05:05 PM

Top Ten Gothic Movies Thread
 
I got in a conversation about Gothic movies and noticed I had trouble thinking of what should count without getting too deep into the Vampire or Horror genres. What do you think the top ten (or any ten) actually Gothic movies are? Here is my stab at it, which I'm sure people will probably disagree with.

In no order
  • Harold and Maude
  • Nosferatu
  • Cabinet of Doctor Caligari
  • Doom Generation
  • Dogs in Space
  • Sweeney Todd
  • Blade Runner
  • Nightmare Before Christmas

I can't think of any more right now.

Pyre 03-18-2009 05:07 PM

This should really go into the section specifically marked for TV and movies.

gothicusmaximus 03-18-2009 06:30 PM

Harold and Maude? What?

DRM 03-18-2009 07:01 PM

Where's Blade Runner?

PortraitOfSanity 03-18-2009 07:52 PM

Blade Runner is a cyberpunk movie.... Pretty far off.

Pyre 03-18-2009 09:16 PM

Hmm. . . I don't think I can think of 10, but here's my go at it:

The Crow
Nightmare Before Christmas
The Labyrinth (DO NOT DISAGREE WITH ME)
Dracula

Uh. Damn. I really don't know any, and I really only like one of the movies I listed (the others are mediocre).

A thread about the same topic on RottenTomatoes lists some, but I don't feel like hunting them all down since they're spread throughout the discussion: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/s...d.php?t=430830

Becca_Lugosi 03-19-2009 06:18 PM

Sweeney Todd? Really?

I've got.....

Dracula [with Bela Lugosi]
The Hunger
The Nightmare Before Christmas
The Lost Boys
Erm. End


~B.L.

Laettners Legacy 03-19-2009 09:39 PM

Dracula (1933)
Frankenstien (1930s
the Wolfman
The Bride of frankenstien
White Zombie
The Labyrinth
the Mummy (Karloff)
Creature from the Black Lagoon
King Kong

Underwater Ophelia 03-19-2009 11:07 PM

Wait, how the fuck is Harold and Maude goth?

Pyre 03-19-2009 11:10 PM

Having never heard of Dogs in Space before, I was wondering how that could also be considered goth. Then, I IMDBed it, and felt some relief. I was expecting something along the lines of Space Buddies, and that worried me.

iroti 03-20-2009 08:09 PM

Eraserhead
Nosferatu
The Crow
Interview with the Vampire
Institute Benjementa
A Tale of Two Sisters [Well...I think it was...]

That's all I got.

Becca_Lugosi 03-20-2009 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laettners Legacy (Post 520524)
Dracula (1933)
Frankenstien (1930s
the Wolfman
The Bride of frankenstien
White Zombie
The Labyrinth
the Mummy (Karloff)
Creature from the Black Lagoon
King Kong

King Kong?!

Laettners Legacy 03-20-2009 09:43 PM

I'm a nerd, not a goth. classic monster movie counts for me!

Beneath the Shadows 03-21-2009 02:40 AM

Joe Dirt. Goth as all fuck.

Opteron_Man 03-22-2009 08:17 AM

Just wondering, what about Edward Scissorhands?

a morbid curiosity 03-22-2009 09:48 AM

^ The movie's kinda shit aside from the visuals...
But then again, Nightmare Before Christmas has been mentioned, so why not.

Kij. 06-19-2009 03:21 PM

The Ninth Gate has a dark element to it. Sheitan as well.

Silver_Countess 06-21-2009 01:25 AM

Edward Scissorhand.
The Nightmeare Before Christmas.
The Lost Boys.
The Craft.
Interview with a Vampire.
Dracula.

That's all I've got.

CountVonCount 06-21-2009 08:31 PM

Sleepy Hollow.

I want to say the Addams Family movies but I'm not sure. They keep the humor so in character that you kind of have to be goth to really appreciate it. But, even then, it's still so campy it's not really influential enough to make the top 10.

KontanKarite 06-23-2009 06:14 PM

Return Of The Living Dead

Thread closed.

Malice In Wonderland 06-23-2009 06:50 PM

Why is everyone mentioning The Crow anyway?


Aside from that, I agree with Kontan.
You could probably put Mad Max/Doomsday too.
All the bad guys looks pretty damn Deathrock.
And Siouxsie's on the soundtrack fro Doomsday.

KontanKarite 06-23-2009 07:06 PM

Didn't The Crow have The Cure on the soundtrack?

AngelikDemonik 06-23-2009 11:21 PM

Yes, The Cure was on The Crow soundtrack. So was My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult. Actually, wait, I may be getting that confused with Lost Boys. My head hurts and I'm too lazy to google it.

NO ONE MENTIONED GYPSY 83?!

Lolly PopMuzik 06-23-2009 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice In Wonderland (Post 545394)
And Siouxsie's on the soundtrack fro Doomsday.

Nah, that's Adam and The Ants and Frankie Goes to Hollywood.

Malice In Wonderland 06-24-2009 10:02 AM

Spellbound by Siouxsie & The Banshees is on STRAIGHT after Adam & The Ants in the scene where Sol is doing his stage show crap.


Regardless of the soundtrack, The Crow SUCKED.

korinna5555 06-25-2009 12:32 AM

The Flaming Creatures

Lolly PopMuzik 06-25-2009 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice In Wonderland (Post 545513)
Spellbound by Siouxsie & The Banshees is on STRAIGHT after Adam & The Ants in the scene where Sol is doing his stage show crap.


Regardless of the soundtrack, The Crow SUCKED.

Well, I haven't seen the flick anyway...And I probably might not.

Malice In Wonderland 06-25-2009 07:14 AM

Doomsday?
It's pretty good.


Also, Wonder Showzen rules.

SiouxsiePernova 06-25-2009 09:13 AM

"Gypsy 83".

CrimsonPythonidae 06-26-2009 07:27 AM

That "Tale of Two Sisters", is that a German/Dutch movie? If so I loved that. I might be thinking of something else though . .

Needlefeet 06-26-2009 08:14 AM

I saw the Crow and I thought: "damn! This is pretty dodgy for all the hype".
I rented like... 3? different Crow's and they all sucked really. I got some recent remake, a TV series and then the original... They all had different fucking story lines.

Sinjob 06-26-2009 10:03 AM

Return of the Living Dead, Caligari, Flaming Creatures, Blood for Dracula and Flesh For Frankenstein are all pretty good. I'll have to admit to being a fan of the Crow here and even got a soft spot for Gypsy.

*thinks*
Anything by Gregg Araki.

Wyntre Amaranth 06-27-2009 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice In Wonderland (Post 545614)
Doomsday?
It's pretty good.


Also, Wonder Showzen rules.

Heh. Just finished watching Doomsday. One of my favorites. I highly enjoy post-apocalyptic settings in both screenplay and literature.

Wyntre Amaranth 06-27-2009 03:22 AM

For me, in a way purely for the fact that goth and romance share a common plate, I would have to say Princess Bride should be on the list.

Lolly PopMuzik 06-27-2009 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice In Wonderland (Post 545614)
Doomsday?
It's pretty good.


Also, Wonder Showzen rules.

Yeah, Doomsday. It just doesn't look like my kinda flick due to watching too much of Turner Classic Movies lately.

And ya damn right Wonder Showzen rules. *high fives Wonder Showzen style*

Anima_Severem 07-08-2009 07:48 AM

Some notes before we start.

There's a lot of different stuff here. Some horror, some comedy, some...horromedy. There might also be some really bad movies here, but I think that's alright. I'm one of those weirdos who likes bad movies.

Corpse Bride - I don't think gothic stuff is all about sulking and scoffing. Anyone who thinks that has the wrong subculture. Emo's five aisles over. But this one's got Victorian England, marrying a corpse, and dancing skeletons. What's not to love about dancing skeletons?

Beetlejuice - When I was a kid this one gave me nightmares. As I got older though, I loved it, especially as I slipped into the goth subculture. I'm...a sucker for these movies. What? No I'm not a Tim Burton fan.

Hellraiser (Only the first 2)- Now we're getting serious, and for once it's not a Tim Burton work. Deep down inside, I think everyone's got that desire to experience pleasure beyond their wildest imagination, even if it means getting that pleasure intertwined in pain. That, and who doesn't love shiny leather?

The original Dracula - The one with Bela Lugosi. This is pretty much a goth staple, and no one, NO ONE can replace Bela Lugosi.

Twilight - Just kidding.

DemiGoth 07-24-2009 02:17 PM

Well the 'Matrix' series is considered gothic by some people (mostly because the characters dress in the cyber gothic fashion) and i heard it was a great series.

Sweeney Todd was AMAZING

Blair witch project was great, my favorite movie, but i dont know if you'd consider it gothic.

nightmare before christmas was good

corpse bride was good

nosferatu i have but havent watched yet.

betty-mourque 08-18-2009 02:52 PM

i´ve collect b movies and this stuff, Elvira (great comedian)
and and the fall of the house usher are great movies!

CountVonCount 08-18-2009 09:31 PM

Corpse Bride was sooo boring.
So was Mistress of the Dark but I'd consider Elvira a guilty pleasure. The only true substance it had was her car - OH. MY. GOD. Jet black 1959 T-Bird with a spiderweb grill, chain stearing wheel, a license plate that reads '2MACABRE' and leopard interioir??
Gurrl's ride is too fly.

I mean it was entertaining but the character is so simple and no where near goth...she's just a rocker chick with a hopeful compact and eyeliner. And that hee-yuck scoff...oy vey! It's obvious she rode in from the Valley. The sequel movie was beyond retarded, I couln't wipe the grimace of confusion off my face long enough to even consider a laugh. She's just a pair of painted lips and hourglass hips with the twins in between. Plain and SIMPLE.

Sermon Bathe 08-21-2009 10:51 PM

The Fearless Vampire Killers by Polanski
The Tenant(Tenet?) another Polanski
The Fall of The House of Usher
Teenager From Space
Black Sunday by Mario Bava
The Giant of Metropolis
The Vampire Lovers
Shockwave(s?)
I could put a third Polanski, Rosemary's Baby, but its
to damned creepy

Ophelia's Snorkel 08-23-2009 09:49 PM

I sometimes get asked this by the kids I tutor. This is what I recommend to them - some are 'goth films' and some just express a kind of gothic sensibility or atmosphere:

The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari
Nosferatu
Gaslight
Dracula (Lugosi)
Young Frankenstein
Misc. Vincent Price
Edward Scissorhands
Beetlejuice
Nightmare Before Christmas
The Bad Seed

SandyTree 08-26-2009 02:47 AM

THE CROW

THE 9TH GATE

Interview with the Vampire

Sleepy Hollow

Vidocq

...........

unconcentrated 09-06-2009 04:01 PM

Just few notes (and to refresh topic).
Quote:

Nosferatu
Definitely. Unlike it is more violet than black and white film (due the year of creation - 1922), the atmosphere is really impressive.

Anyway.

Anyone seen Goth: Love of Death (2008) based on manga named "Goth" from Otsu-ichi? Trailer looks really, well, let's say - interesting.

And one personal recommendation - Det sjunde inseglet (The Seventh Seal).
Picture of knight and death playing chess is hard to forget.

Ko Pilot 09-10-2009 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sermon Bathe (Post 555466)
The Fearless Vampire Killers by Polanski
The Tenant(Tenet?) another Polanski
The Fall of The House of Usher
Teenager From Space
Black Sunday by Mario Bava
The Giant of Metropolis
The Vampire Lovers
Shockwave(s?)
I could put a third Polanski, Rosemary's Baby, but its
to damned creepy

Basically Polanski.

Jonathan 09-10-2009 02:45 PM

I am bad at guessing what a goth movie is, so I'll just mention some I like for various reasons that haven't already been listed (or that I didn't notice)

The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra
Dancer in the Dark
Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter
Falling Down
.. um... thats all I can think of. Just found Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter on youtube, so I'll be gone for an hour or so XD

WarlockSix 09-12-2009 08:47 PM

Hm.

A few movies I have enjoyed are:-

Hellraiser. The combination of demons (or angels), mad sadomasochism, awesome 80s gore and fashion made this movie indescribably brilliant to me.
Oh, and the Cenobites were awesome, I loved their outfits :)

Sweeney Todd. A mad barber with a long-standing grudge, a deadly barbershop that processes corpses into pies and a lovely Victorian setting make Sweeney Todd one of my favourite musicals. But then, I love the idea of a gruesome musical, I wish there were more of them, if anyone knows any more?

The Matrix. I grew up on the Matrix; it's been one of my favourite movies for a long time because it explores the idea of a skewed, false reality, as well as a heap of crazy fight scenes. Not to mention all the sexy black and PVC outfits :)

Doomsday. Medieval knights fighting futuristic soldiers and Mad-Max-esque punk cannibals? Why in hell not? Oh, and the song from Siouxsie gives it extra points, even if the movie itself was somewhat terrible :)

The Nightmare Before Christmas. An alright movie with a bunch of rather fun singing skeletons. A pity that it got popular enough with the 'emo' kids, but I still don't mind it :P

Keni 12-25-2009 06:10 PM

aaah

now that i actually think of it


i really cant think of any



would the rocky horror picture show qualify ? ? ? ? ?
i dunno

its kinda

hokey

and what about

It is fine . Everything is fine!
??
well . . . anything directed by Crispin Glover


all hail lunatic directors
=D

Daywalker 12-26-2009 03:37 PM

ok first of all you have to pick a Director: i like Gregg Araki
nowhere is one of the top 10 of all time.

Bloodflowers 01-01-2010 08:29 PM

I'd simplify it as basically anything Roger Corman directed, named after a Poe story/poem, and cast Vincent Price in...

Bloodflowers 01-01-2010 08:32 PM

Oh, and amazed someone mentioned Vidocq.... I rather like that film (surprised it was directed by the same person that did Catwoman though..).


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