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Raven_Blackblade 06-07-2009 12:33 PM

E-Cigarettes.
 
It has literally been forever and a day since I have posted. And since I didnt know exactly where to stick this, I figured that I would place it here.

E-Cigarettes.

Dude. This is the coolest thing on the planet. All the happy things about smoking, but none of the cancer.

I personally use a DSE-901 black with a blue LED. Looks like a sexy clove. But I get to choose what ever flavor I want. It is awesomes.

Other than that Hi everybody :)

Still Jack 06-07-2009 12:43 PM

I´ve never liked E-cigarettes. I think you should either stop completely, or not at all, but not do those E-cigarette things.

Renatus 06-07-2009 12:57 PM

I made a thread about this back in November which has since died off but was quite interesting for me as I am not a smoker. Also welcome back it certainly has been quite a long time since your last post. I am pleased to say for your sake you can still find some fermiliar faces from your era here on gnet. I am afraid though that I am not one of them, I was back in 2005 completely unaware of this website. But again welcome.

Malice In Wonderland 06-07-2009 01:04 PM

Doesn't nicotine still give you cancer...?

And if you're "smoking" the ones without nicotine, isn't that just doing it to look cool? Kinda like not inhaling?

Solumina 06-07-2009 01:16 PM

A lot of people get addicted to the action of smoking in addition to the nicotine and for many people the action is calming.

PortraitOfSanity 06-07-2009 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice In Wonderland (Post 542692)
Doesn't nicotine still give you cancer...?

Wow....

No, it's the chemicals in the smoke honey.

Solumina 06-07-2009 02:18 PM

Nicotine is still a poison so it is still rather bad for you

Mauritia Mayer 06-07-2009 02:42 PM

It's an interesting concept, all right, but I don't know if I'd bother. I guess if it could really reproduce the whole experience of smoking AND the nicotine buzz, it would probably be worth it. The idea just doesn't appeal to me that much, though.

Now, if you could get THC cartridges for the thing I'd be on it right away.

PortraitOfSanity 06-07-2009 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solumina (Post 542700)
Nicotine is still a poison so it is still rather bad for you

True, but only in immensely high doses.

Godslayer Jillian 06-07-2009 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven_Blackblade (Post 542689)
It has literally been forever and a day

That's gonna keep annoying me

Beneath the Shadows 06-07-2009 06:26 PM

These things are awesome... if you go to raves.

Anarasha 06-07-2009 11:43 PM

I personally think that smoking is stupid, no matter the name of the Death-Stick or the way it works. I agree, nicotine is still poison. I don't see why anyone starts at all. And don't give me that about relaxation, you could achieve such a state of relaxation in other ways. It's simply a killing habbit with no true advantages.

Beneath the Shadows 06-08-2009 12:57 AM

I can honestly say that the reason I started smoking is... stupidity. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's a decision that I regret. I've been trying to quit. So far, I've been unsuccessful. However, I'm doing pretty good. I used to smoke a pack a day. Now, I buy a pack every other week.

PortraitOfSanity 06-08-2009 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anarasha (Post 542742)
I personally think that smoking is stupid, no matter the name of the Death-Stick or the way it works. I agree, nicotine is still poison. I don't see why anyone starts at all. And don't give me that about relaxation, you could achieve such a state of relaxation in other ways. It's simply a killing habbit with no true advantages.

Self-righteous much?

Smoking is about the safest thing I do all day, so fuck off.

Godslayer Jillian 06-08-2009 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anarasha (Post 542742)
I agree, nicotine is still poison. I don't see why anyone starts at all.

'Sup, man. Are you veggie?

JCC 06-08-2009 01:23 PM

My friend is buying an E-cigarette.

Beneath the Shadows 06-08-2009 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PortraitOfSanity (Post 542763)
Self-righteous much?

Smoking is about the safest thing I do all day, so fuck off.

Yeah, that was a perfectly reasonable response to someone stating their opinion.

Pineapple_Juice 06-08-2009 05:03 PM

Gagh.
I have to stop smoking. I wish I'd never started. It's worse cuz I'm vegan and smokes totally aren't. I went like a month, if that counts. I guess it doesn't.

Solumina 06-08-2009 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anarasha (Post 542742)
I personally think that smoking is stupid, no matter the name of the Death-Stick or the way it works. I agree, nicotine is still poison. I don't see why anyone starts at all. And don't give me that about relaxation, you could achieve such a state of relaxation in other ways. It's simply a killing habbit with no true advantages.

On of the reasons why e-cigs are so popular is because you can get them without any nicotine, they have no associated health problems and they do taste rather delightful.

Pineapple_Juice 06-08-2009 10:54 PM

Wait, I thought there was liquid nicotine in them?

Solumina 06-09-2009 01:46 AM

You can get them with or without nicotine, many people use them to help quit as you can get them with different levels of nicotine, starting with as much as a normal cig and ending with none at all.

Still Jack 06-09-2009 01:35 PM

The thing that puts me off the most with them, is that they can't re-create the taste or buzz of a real cigarette. Also, I think the inconvenience of recharging it all the time would seriously annoy me.

Sinjob 06-11-2009 06:25 PM

Those things seem like a waste to me. Even if the prices of cigarettes are going up I think I'd have more enjoyment out of a cheap pack of 305s' then one of those things. But I'm just stubborn.

isobel black 06-12-2009 08:35 AM

I think e-cigarettes look rather stupid and I'm a little wary of the shit they might put in the cartridges, but inhaling vapor rather than carcinogenic smoke is a good idea.

In the case of tobacco, I personally don't get why you wouldn't just use nicotine gum, but I've recently started vaporizing weed, and I absolutely love it.

emeraldlonewoulf 06-15-2009 04:14 AM

yeah, kinda interesting how these things get real popular just before the legislation banning flavored cigarettes is passed. Including cloves...

Solumina 06-15-2009 10:19 AM

What ban on flavored cigs? I haven't heard anything about one, is it federal or a state ban?

Slap Your Love 06-15-2009 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solumina (Post 542813)
On of the reasons why e-cigs are so popular is because you can get them without any nicotine, they have no associated health problems and they do taste rather delightful.

That's why I bought one. I got the healthy ones that have vitamin A, B, C and E in them and 0 nicotine, tobacco, carcinogens, tar, ect, ect. And there's all
kindsa awesome flavors. :]

gothicusmaximus 06-15-2009 11:59 AM

Fuck, the contemporary west really is transforming into some kind of Blade Runner-esque Sci-Fi setting in which we walk around talking to invisible people, reading virtual books, writing with mechanical pencils and smoking robo-cigarettes.

emeraldlonewoulf 06-16-2009 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solumina (Post 543845)
What ban on flavored cigs? I haven't heard anything about one, is it federal or a state ban?

Federal. It is part of an "anti-smoking for the youth" thing, they call it banning "candy flavored" cigarettes, i.e. cherry, vanilla, etc. apparently somebody out there came across clove flavored candy, heh, because that is in there too. they have things against different types of tobacco advertising and a few other things, like warning signs covering half of the packages, and no light or mild designations
.

AP link

Onyx 06-17-2009 10:52 AM

ack
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emeraldlonewoulf (Post 544014)
Federal. It is part of an "anti-smoking for the youth" thing, they call it banning "candy flavored" cigarettes, i.e. cherry, vanilla, etc. apparently somebody out there came across clove flavored candy, heh, because that is in there too. they have things against different types of tobacco advertising and a few other things, like warning signs covering half of the packages, and no light or mild designations
.

AP link

Yet menthol doesn't make the list. How many kids have even heard of, let alone would be into, cloves vs methol smokes. To bad it takes money, rather than brains, to get into politics.

Solumina 06-17-2009 12:23 PM

damn that looks pretty open ended, it looks like the legislation will allow lawmakers to regulate flavorings but the legislation is not not out and out ban on them, I wonder if they will try and apply this to other tobacco products or if it is just specific to cigarettes.

josphill99 06-17-2009 10:27 PM

I have actually found success with E-Cigarettes
 
Yeah I was a bit skeptical at first, but i decided to give E-Cigarettes a try. After about two days I realized that I was actually not wanting a real cigarette! Plus what was really cool was that when I when out to the bar, people were coming up to me and I was a public spectacle! So for once I got some attention for not just being the drunkest idiot at the bar. I looked around the internet, and there are a lot of places to buy them. I found one site that had really good prices, and I got the most E-Cigarette for the buck

Place where I got my E-Cigarette Starter Kit
http://www.ecigarettes4less.com

KuroOokami 06-19-2009 07:23 PM

I'm really confused. So instead of real cigarettes, people buy, for various reasons, little metal tubes with flavored cartridges and batteries etc that simulate actual smoking? Cool? Can they come completely nicotine and tobacco-free?
[Edit] Sorry, just saw Slap Your Love's post. Awesome.

CountVonCount 06-21-2009 03:05 PM

I was against them as the only reason I started smoking 2 years ago was the look. NOT to be seen as popular but because it's so glamorous, taking a drag and dropping your eyelids while all your frustrations and devotions flood the world around you in a beautiful twisting silver cloud. And, as mentioned, the actual habit formed of doing something with my hands and/or something to do when stressed/relaxed/in need of a moment's change...

I quit cold turnkey about 3 months and still have cravings (it's the adrenaline the nicotine makes your brain release that you crave) but I can't stand the thought of all the chemicals and risk of cancers. Thanks to this thread though I might just look into these nicotine free, flavored e-cigarettes. At the same time what's the point if there's no smoke:( all the fun and fabulocity is gone. Give me a flavored smoke that's no detriment to my health and then we'll talk.

isobel black, vaporizing your weed is the safest way for consumption! Joints and pieces are the worst, bongs are much better, but baked goods and vaporizers are the best. I myself quit the same time I quit cigs but I remember the few times I used a vaporizer I got fuucked up fast and fun. I've heard the best vaporizers are from Volcano but they're around $500 a piece...no stank you.

Wyntre Amaranth 06-22-2009 11:53 AM

I do beleive however... (if it it is still around...) That there is a petition against the banning... If it is still around, people should find and sign it, 'cuz I needs my cloves, damnit! Heheh... I am sure many of you would agree.

Opteron_Man 06-23-2009 11:28 PM

looks interesting, fixes the problem of tar and all kinds of buildup in the lungs.
What's the point of "smoking" the non nicotine ones? I don't know.
Lol, yet another thing wirh a blue led, where will it end?

Onyx 06-24-2009 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Opteron_Man (Post 545485)
looks interesting, fixes the problem of tar and all kinds of buildup in the lungs.
What's the point of "smoking" the non nicotine ones? I don't know.
Lol, yet another thing wirh a blue led, where will it end?

You just don't understand. It isn't the blue LED. It's the combined effect of being black AND the blue LED. The blue LED is pointless otherwise. Though, with a little keif and know how I could see another point behind the no nicotine ones.

Solumina 06-24-2009 06:53 AM

Some of them have red lights, I guess to look more realistic, so if you don't like blue then get a red one.

KontanKarite 06-24-2009 05:01 PM

They're wanting to ban flavored cigs? Does this include flavored tobacco and cloves in general or just the cigs?

Onyx 06-25-2009 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KontanKarite (Post 545568)
They're wanting to ban flavored cigs? Does this include flavored tobacco and cloves in general or just the cigs?

The law is very open ended. However, they do call joints marijuana "cigarettes" in the DEA, ONDCP, FDA (FDA would be overseeing this), so I think anything round and lit to be smoked would be included. Thus, a clove, even if no actual tobacco were involved, would probably make the ban.


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