Pick your flavor of Anarchy.
 

There are a noticeable amount of anarchists on these boards, so I was wondering what everyone's anarchist lean is. I tried to make them broad, but I encourage expanding on your vote.

I personally favor Anarchist Communism strongly, though if Anarchist Syndicalism were to become the M.O. of society, I wouldn't lose much sleep.

Not a good idea.

I voted other anarchism, for anarcho pacifism. Although I also like anarchist privitism as well.

Any of these could be anarcho-pacifism. How the fuck are you so obtuse?

Which, the thread or Anarcho-syndicalism?

Stormtrooper, you bumbling idiot, anarchist primitivism is the belief we should destroy all technology and go back to being hunter-gatherers.

I know that. It's not too bad of an idea. Not something that extreme, but still we could live without some technology.

And don't call me a bumbling idiot, it hurts my feelings! Lol.

The thread.

1) For a person who loves cars as much as you do, you should hate Anarcho-Primitivism.
2) It's a horrible idea. Do you have any idea of what madness will ensue if people go from such overly complex social structures to hunter-gatherer societies? Imagine 6 - 7 billion people walking around aimless and hungry. The only way we have enough food to support the enormous population we have is with planning, not with people just arbitrarily wandering around.

JCC: I thought it would lead to interesting discussions about the different schools of anarchist thought, such as the ones you, Alan, and I had about Anarcho-Communism/Federalism/Syndicalism.

I know what it entales for fuck's sake. I'm not not a retard foaming at the fucking mouth here.

And yes we do need planning, so I retract my previous statement about liking it.

Yeah, aight.

Fuck you. You and everybody else here is a fucking prick.

Well, at least I'm not not a retard.

How can I be retarded? You know nothing about me at all, other than the persona I choose to convey on these boards.

You're shooting in the dark here, from the hip too. If you were to meet me, then you could make an educated guess. But now, you are uniformed about the REAL LIFE me.

Good grief, do you know how much you sound like an angsty highschool teen here?

"Yo so I think we should get rid of government without any plans of what to do for the future. This is a good idea."

Sure we are. Sex is the greatest pleasure in this world by far.

He's never even met me and he thinks I'm a prick. I'm not sure whether to be proud or offended.

So far as anarchy goes.... My ideal society is similar to that of the egalitarian anarchist society of Anarres in The Dispossessed, but with constant revolution of ideas to avoid the tyranny of the majority that stifled much independent thought in the Anarran society. Ursula K LeGuin is known mostly as a fantasy author, but I find her theoretical political science fiction to be far more interesting.

But between here and there, and what with the lack of a handy nearby inhabitable planet for anarchists to colonise and create a quasi-utopian society on, I'll stick with urging the current UK society toward socialism. Socialism as a safety net, where government exists as a means of distribution of resources and supporting those who need it- to fund, train and supply groups that work better on a country-wide scale, such as unemployment benefit, the NHS, fire and police services, etc. We're not in a position for sudden revolution, as the concept of society has been heavily damaged by Thatcher. We need to reclaim and reinforce community identity, in part by devolving power and involving the individual citizen as much as possible wherever possible. Only when the concept of community involving everyone has been re-established have we a chance of actual anarchy.

I've found myself recently leaning away from traditional Communism toward Anarcho-Communism, so that one.

Anarcho-Primitivist.

MIW, the one whom I assume is your girlfriend, looks a lot like my sister, it's kinda creepy...

I wouldn't exactly say this thread is pointless, but the general seems a bit like contradiction...nevertheless I chose Green Anarchism even though I need to work on my self-awareness and faithfulness to both sides of the spectrum.

I'd either have to Go for syndicalist or primitivist. Even though I like the primitivist ideology more, I'm gonna have to vote syndicalist, because it's most feasible imo.

I could never be a primitivist, I'm too much of a techie.

I could never be a primitivist, I'm too clever.

What the fuck? Why are so many people primitivists? You like the idea of being anarchists, but are just incapable of imagining a stateless society that isn't a fucking neolithic?

Yea, I don't get that...

WHAT THE FUCK, MALICE!!
Those are the worst!

national socialist all the way bitches woooooooooo my uncle started it im gonna finish wooo

Anarcho-Syndicalism.

I used to be into anarchosyndicalism, and I keep trying to do syndicalist action, but I thin the solution is for everyone to become a student-worker instead of having solely the proletariat as the working class in charge of society. It's a slight difference, but it makes me more of an anarchocommie.

It's not exactly a day and night difference between the two.

There's a problem here.

Now this is really why anarchy wouldn't work.

If we're all united by the same idea, then why are we fighting over details. The only reason "our" revolution has failed is because we're too busy fighting. Who cares about the details, just get this stuff done.

It's really funny, I thought about this yesterday.

And now, I'm never going to post in this rediculous subforum again.

Who cares about the details? When they had the revolution in France, people had the same idea. Do you know what the result was? PEOPLE DIED. Plus, there's always that tiny little fact that their revolution brought about more repressive governments.

Because if you don't fight about the details now, you fight about them later.

People are already dying today, and will countinue to die without any government. It's a simple fact.

EDIT:

Read this:

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?f...ogId=372513231

It's an excellent article.

You're a fucking idiot. Go away.

Did you read that article?

Probably not, you're all too elitist for that stuff right?

To quote another guy from a great forum:

"I don't give a fuck if you're anarcho-Christian, anarcho-capitalist or anarcho-fuckin-tellytubby, you should ave a right to practise whatever belief or socio-economic system you wish so long as it doesn't impinge on other societies around you. If you go around tellin people 'You're concept of anarchism does not agree with mine and is therefore wrong and you're no longer in Club Anarchy, give back your badge and your zines' then you're basically shootin down the movement itself.

People can believe whatever the fuck they want and belong to whatever institutions they fancy so long as it doesn't impinge on you. You haven't the authority to say otherwise."

Aaand that's a great way to have some survival of the fittest Hobbesian twats of anarchists fuck things up for everyone else.

Knock it off, dude. Your posts are embarrassing to read.

The difference between anarcho-collectivism and fucking PRIMITIVISM is not just 'details', dumbfuck.

Speaking of details, the neolithic age wasn't one of hunter-gathering, in fact it refers specifically to the emergence of agriculture and non-egalitarian societies. You might prefer paleolithic or mesolithic.

I meant neolithic with respect to technological development, i.e. agriculture. As demented as they tend to be, few primitivists hold that the cultivation of crops and livestock should be altogether abandoned. I was operating under the assumption that not even SoD is so stupid.

Seriously. I feel like the best plan a few people on this board have for an anarchist society came from watching Mad Max.

Anyway, I said pretty early on that I'm an anarcho-syndicalist. I'm interested in most schools of anarchist collectivism and socialism.

Also, though a lot of us disagree on certain things like the effectiveness of different schools of activism and methods of class warfare, at least we're trying to visualize the way things would work out for everyone after the fact, which is the WHOLE POINT. This attitude of anarchism being whatever you want it to be comes from people who don't know anything about anarchist history or theory.

Hmmmm... That's a pity. I'd actually understand the anarcho-primitivist point of view if they suggested a parting from agriculture entirely, because at least then they'd be backing an immediate-return system that ethnographically seems to equate to a truly egalitarian society.

Now I am curious: I have read little of anarcho-communism and have some questions. Which authors and books would anyone recommend?

I wish to read how it would avoid the demand imbalance that would eventually occur, for example, the majority grow cauliflower, but I detest it and so grow cilantro instead because I prefer it.

Meanwhile, whilst the majority manufactures clothing, someone else makes wind chimes, because she feels like it.

The exchange market would eventually offer more useless things and less needed things.

What regulates or prevents the social needs from eventually suffering for want of basics because everyone eventually makes what they want to make or grow what they want to grow?

At some point it would seem the majority would say to the individual, "you will grow cauliflower, and you will make clothes".

I would appreciate any recommendations for books that would address the above and similar scenarios of local justice in anarcho-communistic settings.

Thanks.

Peter Kropotkin and Ricardo Flores Magón.

Communism inherently means that production is democratically guided for the good of the community as a whole.

Why would she do that? Where did she get the capable resources to fabricate wind chimes and who is she making them for if no one wants them? Is this a feasible scenario under capitalism, or you just think it would happen under communism somehow?

Yeah. so down the market, yay communism.

I'm confused, are we talking still about anarchocommunism or what?

Kind of how a boss tells an employer what they will and won't do; except in here it's the people you know who are asking you to be a part of a civil society. Why is it oppressive to have people depend on you as much as you depend on them?

Because that "dependence" leads to corruption in some form,and could cause greater harm to the society than good.

And that dependence could be used as a way to control others that don't agree with everyone else.

That's why I'm against a Direct Democracy,because in it's simplest form,Direct Democracy is the will of the majority against the will of the Minority.

In other words it's like two wolves and a sheep trying to decide what they'll have for dinner.

Not to say that a Representative Democracy is immune from corruption,over time (As we have seen in the U.S. in particular) representatives can be bought off,black mailed,or they could have an agenda to push from the start.

No political system or lack of political system is perfect.

For two reasons,power and personal Greed.

Go.
Fuck.
Yourself.