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Vlh 06-29-2010 07:36 PM

Nightwish
 
Who else is a big Nightwish fan? And what's your favorite song/album?

Lady Sorrow 06-30-2010 06:26 AM

omg yes!!! lol i have there cd Once,and i like most if not all of the songs on it, but my fave song is The Islander.

ape descendant 07-01-2010 02:25 PM

So far my favorite album is Century Child... my favorite song, Swanheart.

JCC 07-01-2010 02:51 PM

I just vomited into three separate paper bags, you Nightwish fans can expect them in the post.

ape descendant 07-01-2010 02:56 PM

You might want to get that checked out.. it doesn't sound terribly healthy.

Niccolo della Luce 07-02-2010 11:17 PM

I'm torn between "Planet Hell" and "Master Passion Greed" for my favorites, but I've yet to hear a bad Nightwish song.

Vlh 07-03-2010 04:41 PM

I just noticed that while I asked for the favorites of others, I neglected to add my own selections. Romanticide is excellent, as are Moondance and Over the Hills and Far Away. I also have Wish You Were Here featuring Blackmore's Night that has quite an impressive play count on the iPod.

ape descendant 07-07-2010 11:53 AM

I'm not terribly fond of their new shit... their old shit's better....


ROFLMFAO!!!! HEE HEE...... I kill me!!

Amirika Maige 07-17-2010 01:32 AM

In my opinion, 'Ghost Love Score' is the most beautiful song ever written.

KontanKarite 07-18-2010 07:35 PM

Ah, no accounting for tastes I see.

Would it be beyond you guys to enjoy perhaps BTK Band?

I mean, REALLY. It's so fucking easy to find things that are FAR bloody better than what Hot Topic spews out at you.

Maybe you guys would have better music tastes if you based it on actual musical creativity instead of weather the lead singer looks good in a corset or not.

ssj_goku 07-19-2010 10:20 PM

Nightwish is one of my favorite bands. I think the singer is dead sexy.

Vlh 07-20-2010 05:16 PM

I have never seen Nightwish at a Hot Topic actually. Although I have not been in one for a while, so I guess I may have missed it.

ape descendant 07-23-2010 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KontanKarite (Post 627593)
Ah, no accounting for tastes I see.

Would it be beyond you guys to enjoy perhaps BTK Band?

I mean, REALLY. It's so fucking easy to find things that are FAR bloody better than what Hot Topic spews out at you.

Maybe you guys would have better music tastes if you based it on actual musical creativity instead of weather the lead singer looks good in a corset or not.

Geeze man... its not like Nightwish is the only band in our repitiores... you don't have to like them... but I'm sure those of us who would like to wallow in the melody are perfectly fine to.

And I was decently unaware that Hot Topic even had Nightwish merch.. perhaps they had gotten rid of it to make room for the Justin Beiber shirts (yes they have them :'()

And for the record Tarja has a whole shit-ton of musical talent. She has an ungodly range and a voice that doesn't quit... its not about how she looks in a corset... its about the fact that she is an incredibly awesome, classically trained, operatic vocalist.

Of course.. she's not in Nightwish any more... not fond of the new girl.. if this is about new Nightwish.. I'm out.

Mandarinz 11-06-2010 12:21 AM

I adore NW. Both old and new. The singer doesn't matter. As long as Tuomas is there I'm happy.

TheFeatheredÆtheling 11-06-2010 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssj_goku (Post 627720)
Nightwish is one of my favorite bands. I think the singer is dead sexy.

Ah ha! 'Just as I thought! You can spell...

Hydrodyssodia 11-07-2010 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KontanKarite (Post 627593)
if you based it on actual musical creativity instead of weather the lead singer looks good in a corset or not.

Don't be ridiculous. If they did that they'd be talking Epica.

Hydrodyssodia 11-07-2010 06:57 PM

Actually, now that I think about it Tarja isn't even that hot.

Saya 11-07-2010 08:50 PM

I like Tarja. I wish she did less Nightwishy songs and sang songs like this more often:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7jkJ...eature=related

It helps when she sings Finnish and I have no idea if they're bad lyrics.

vx cheerleader 69 11-23-2010 07:34 AM

Nightwish are responsible for some of my worst memories ever. Imagine you're sleeping - or at least trying to sleep - in your girlfriend's room while her mother, the one who's selling fish at the supermarket, is "singing" VERY LOUD while listening to Nightwish. And she CAN'T sing.

I lived thu that. Never been the same again.

DDX 11-23-2010 07:56 AM

I remember their Bye Bye Beautiful video giving me quite the nosebleed. My favorite song from Nightwish is Wanderlust from their Wishmaster album.

Lady Sorrow 11-29-2010 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandarinz (Post 642366)
I adore NW. Both old and new. The singer doesn't matter. As long as Tuomas is there I'm happy.

i very much agree lol, hes fantastic :)

Lady Sorrow 11-29-2010 10:03 AM

i really like while your lips are still red. its a very beautiful song <3

Sir Canvas Corpsey 11-29-2010 06:13 PM

A mediocre band but good fun when you're younger and don't know many other bands. The best thing that came out of Nightwish was the 'Fishmaster' misheard lyrics vid.

KontanKarite 11-29-2010 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ape descendant (Post 628388)
Geeze man... its not like Nightwish is the only band in our repitiores... you don't have to like them... but I'm sure those of us who would like to wallow in the melody are perfectly fine to.

And I was decently unaware that Hot Topic even had Nightwish merch.. perhaps they had gotten rid of it to make room for the Justin Beiber shirts (yes they have them :'()

And for the record Tarja has a whole shit-ton of musical talent. She has an ungodly range and a voice that doesn't quit... its not about how she looks in a corset... its about the fact that she is an incredibly awesome, classically trained, operatic vocalist.

Of course.. she's not in Nightwish any more... not fond of the new girl.. if this is about new Nightwish.. I'm out.

Talent's as common as table salt. - Stephen King

Noirette 12-01-2010 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssj_goku (Post 627720)
Nightwish is one of my favorite bands. I think the singer is dead sexy.

The fact an 18 years old girl can sing better than her (we're talking about the new one, right? ) is meaningless to you.
I see, I see. So people like you are the reason they were looking for a "frontwoman" and not for a damn singer.
She was a jairdresser before, by the way.
And Tarja's so full of herself it does encourage a need to vomit. Thrice.

Noirette 12-01-2010 03:08 AM

Ape, even before that, Tarja sounds horrbile. She shows she has a gorgerous voice in the new version for "Sleeping Sun", but then she just gt back to her horrible singing, I really do't get it. How can you sing badly on purpose?!

And yes, I have a confession. I was a big Nightsih fan.
Until I was 14. And realised her singing is shitty.
By the way, notice that Simon Simmons, who used to copy Tarja's singing for Epica's first three albums, changed her singing technique completely, sounding damn awesome noe.

I am noot speaking about the horrible, senseless lyrics. Let's leave that untouched.
They are nice to listen to, when the mood hits me, while cleaning. Their old things. I won't listen to a singer who's abilities are lower than mine in the most noticible way.

PortraitOfSanity 12-01-2010 07:58 AM

If you insist on listening to cheesy, operatic metal, at least listen to the good stuff...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNGzl...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY-EOYJQMMY

You're welcome, you fucking ingrates.

Saya 12-01-2010 10:14 AM

Or even better, proper opera!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fZRssq7UlM

Take that, bitches.

vx cheerleader 69 12-01-2010 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PortraitOfSanity (Post 644490)
If you insist on listening to cheesy, operatic metal, at least listen to the good stuff...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNGzl...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY-EOYJQMMY

Oh, lord. When I wrote Nightwish were responsible for some of my worst memories, I should have thought of Epica and Therion. But actually, my memories of these are not so bad... I really had a good laugh sharing stages with both acts (this was at a festival called "metal therapy" - blimey, "metal therapy" !), they were SO cheesy (and I was SO drunk). The best part was when Therion got the whole Anorexia Nervosa band driven out of their backstage (they had to share the same room) because they were making too much noise and smoking...

PortraitOfSanity 12-01-2010 11:56 PM

The only band out of three I actually have in my library is Epica, because my ex was huge into them, so it rubbed off at some point.

I'm merely pointing out the fact that Nightwish has no talent at all compared to either Epica or Therion...

vx cheerleader 69 12-02-2010 12:09 AM

I would agree on Therion - I don't like their music, they're pretty ridiculous, but at some point they're quite impressive. But Epica.... Have you seen them live ? it was a PAINFUL experience, believe me.

Concerning Nightwish... I hate Nightwish, but I must face the facts : the old line-up was able to put-out incredibly catchy tunes. The kind of songs you instantly hate but that can never get out of your mind afterwards. Human brain is so imperfect when it comes to "catchiness"...

Oh, by the way, anyone liking "Opera" should try the latest Foetus record, "Hide". It's incredibly bombastic, but without any heavy-metal thrown in.

Noirette 12-03-2010 04:58 AM

Ironicaly, most of the so called "metal opera" bands have the most horrible female singers, and their vocal lines are ridicilous. The few good ones are active for one EP usually ( I really liked Sonata Nocturna. For some reason, they sound as if they were trying something completely new, though it's as cliche as can be. And their combination of piano and bass-guitar at the end is awesome :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcZCfnrluvY )
It sucks.

Mandarinz 12-03-2010 10:19 PM

Gotta love all the negativity in this topic lol.

ape descendant 12-04-2010 06:05 AM

@ Noriette-Tarja is totally awesome... if you don't like her music, its most likely that you enjoy a different style, not that she is a shitty singer... its art... you're not going to like some of it.. it isn't a reflection of how good/ shitty that art is.. but merely how small your range of appreciation is.

It has been my experience that people who brag that they can "sing so much better" than some other signer, tend to be really... bad.. at singing... but really good at keeping their over-inflated egos nice and pumped.

@ POS - Therion is one one of the greatest bands ever... I am surprised that no one even mentioned Tristania.. as they are totally awesome. I didn't really like Epica, couldn't get into them.

Noirette 12-04-2010 08:17 AM

Ape, you're a stubborn little girl that can't accept what she likes is bad and shallow. Much like the way Tarjs tends to ignore the fact she can sing better.

And if you claim Annette deserves listening to, then as far as I care, the topic is closed until you you go check nothing has stuck in your ears.

Mandarinz 12-04-2010 03:44 PM

@ Noirette: Maybe you should try accepting that some people have different musical tastes to you, and that acting like a music snob makes you look like complete dick head, and we're not going to listen to what you have to say anyway.

Alan 12-04-2010 03:57 PM

Yeah, sure. It has nothing to do with the fact that you like Nightwish.
No, it's Noirette who must be wrong when she rightly points out that Nightwish is not talented and enjoying them is one thing but actually defending them as great music or worse as an art form is downright stupid.

KontanKarite 12-04-2010 04:00 PM

No, Noirette is totally right, actually.

Here's the rub and just about everything that falls under this umbrella is like this, so nothing is entirely innocent of it. But musical acts with a dark and morbid or obscure aesthetic are generally shallow and uninteresting. They rely on their stage fashion and photographs to pretty much charm people into liking them, wearing their ideals blatantly on their sleeves because their music can't convey that message appropriately.

Give me ONE example of Nightwish's music that you find is absolutely relevant to the human experience beyond romanticizing your Hot Topic fashion sense.

Nightwish IS bad. You can't just say that it's art and to argue that it's not important to say weather it's good or bad. There IS bad art and there IS good art.

There's lots of good art out there that I don't like and I'm sure that many on here share the same sentiment. But no, Nightwish is contrived, derivative, and uninspired spooky kid drivel.

cannibalnuns 12-04-2010 04:27 PM

~Applauds~

Mandarinz 12-04-2010 08:26 PM

I just think you're being unfair, and are insulting us of something we like. NW make me, and millions of others happy. For that reason, they're a good band and don't suck. So yeah, I'm gonna defend them.
I couldn't care less if you guys hate them/think they suck/are shallow etc, I just think you should respect our opinions and not call us stupid.

Oh, and we don't have a Hot Topic stores in my country, so your reference to it fails for me.

But yeah, I do find NW relevant to the human expericene, especially mine (Ghost Love Score and The Poet and the Pendulam to name a couple). And you can't tell me that's wrong, not when it's my own opinion.

KontanKarite 12-05-2010 02:24 PM

Uh oh, everyone! Mandarinz is totally right because it's her opinion.

Hate to break it to ya, dollface, but you technically don't have a right to your opinion. Because our "opinions" conflict with each other, then what duty must I meet in order to respect your right to an opinion? Because for me to say that they're different and that's that doesn't do anything but prolong the conflict. I can't and wont respect your opinion. If I did, it would mean that you are right and I don't think you are.

Face it, people that like Nightwish have a hard-on for boring shit like this:

http://www.yidneth.com/images/galler...rple_fairy.jpg

Nightwish is boring music for uninspired gloomcookies.

If the Hot Topic reference confuses you, then let me make it plainer. Nightwish is for mallgoths.

Mandarinz 12-05-2010 04:11 PM

That picture has no meaning to me whatsoever.

In regards to the respect for opinion thing; you don't like them; good for you. I do; good for me. Just please don't say that we are shallow and can't appreciate good music cause you personally don't like them.

KontanKarite 12-05-2010 04:46 PM

But yeah, I do find NW to be incredibly shallow and boring, especially (Ghost Love Score and The Poet and the Pendulum to name a couple). And you can't tell me that's wrong, not when it's my own opinion.


...stupid bitch.

Mandarinz 12-05-2010 05:55 PM

^ Well fuck you very much.
Fine, we're both right, cause it's our opinion.
Now fuck off out of the topic and let NW fans talk about how we like them.

Alan 12-05-2010 06:13 PM

You are not even listening to him, are you?
I hate how today's people are so fucking conceited they'll take any ridiculous rationalization just so that they don't have to say they're wrong.

Mandarinz 12-05-2010 06:31 PM

But I am listening. If I weren't listening I wouldn't be posting here.
If I had said "oh gosh, you're right, I've been wrong about this band for years, I agree with you" would that have counted as listening. I am listening to what you say, and at first I thought you guys had a point. But then you continued to push it.

Alan 12-05-2010 07:20 PM

So insistence make one wrong? The more consistent a point the more it actually becomes false?
Or does this just prove you're a conceited bitch that doesn't like it when someone calls out on your 'opinions'?

Mandarinz 12-05-2010 07:24 PM

No, I don't care at all that you called me out on my opinion. But it's when people say that I'm stupid because of my opinion.

And on a different note, I'm properly curious about the kind of music you guys (who hate NW) listen to. Care to educate me? (And don't decide I'm not worth it because you think I'm stupid bitch.)

Mandarinz 12-05-2010 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noirette (Post 644767)
Ape, you're a stubborn little girl that can't accept what she likes is bad and shallow. Much like the way Tarjs tends to ignore the fact she can sing better.

And if you claim Annette deserves listening to, then as far as I care, the topic is closed until you you go check nothing has stuck in your ears.

It was just this particular comment that I thought was stupid. It wasn't even aimed at me, but we could say the same thing; "that Noirette is s stubborn little girl who can't accept that what we like is good"

Alan 12-05-2010 07:36 PM

See? You said "what we like IS GOOD"
It's not that you like it. It's that you genuinely think it's good. That's what makes you stupid.
Not only because they're not, but because you are making a concrete quantifiable statement and yet you claim no one can attack it.
Fuck that shit.


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