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SiC 06-28-2005 05:03 AM

cradle oor dimmu???
 
Just Wondering What do people think of cradle of filth and dimmu borgir??? :twisted:

oje 06-28-2005 04:50 PM

i remember the first time i've CoF, Danni has one creepy, but awesome voice. but Dimmu, i dunno, there is something about them that i like more, maybe it's just shouting Dimmu at random

dreamydancer 06-28-2005 10:30 PM

Neither, just not my kind of music.

WolfMoon 07-01-2005 06:05 PM

If I really need a laugh, Dani's good for it!

I mean, come on! That's not singing, it's a recording of someone going through CBT!


:lol:

pitseleh 07-03-2005 12:58 PM

When I was younger I used to like CoF, but apart from Dusk And Her Embrace and Cruelty And The Beast, which I will listen to maybe once a year - well, it's true even for those records - I find their output generally lacking in conviction and power. Sure, it's fast, technical and shrieky, but it's too much circus and faux-gothique synthesizer mess to really floor me. Same with Dimmu, even though they are better, in my opinion. I know for a fact that in real life, they're pretty straight-laced family fuddy-duddys anyway, so the whole scary image thing don't fool me! On the other end of the grimness scale however, you have Frost, from Satyricon, in full corpse-paint at the hardware store buying 8" spikes for his leather jacket. Heheh... True sighting by a friend of mine!

At any rate, I'd rather listen to Emperor, or the grimmer, more classic norwegian black metal bands like 1349, Darkthrone, Enslaved, Satyricon or Disiplin. Those are all solid BM bands.

And oje: "Shouting Dimmu at random", is not a proper way to express that your attraction to Dimmu Borgir is due to factors you are unable to determine. Neither is this, but I'm just saying... be intelligible.

Deadhymn 07-03-2005 05:33 PM

pitseleh, have you listened to Dimmu's 'For All Tid'? I think if you like Darkthrone you might enjoy that particular album. It was their first one, and very dark and caustic sounding....much like the masters of the genre such as darkthrone, emperor, and bathory sounded when they started.

Actually i suppose Darkthrone still sounds like that....

pitseleh 07-04-2005 05:06 AM

Ah yes, For All Tid (For All Time). I'd almost forgotten about the early stuff. Yeah, I've listened to that album in the past, and you're right, it is good. Seem to recall a split EP they did with Old Man's Child that was also pretty ok.

And Darkthrone... Heh, they're fucking old-skool, man. That's one band that will always stay true to murky production values, and never feature the Prague symphony or a single synthesizer. Not that their sound hasn't evolved from, say, Soulside Journey - which is nigh-on unlistenable - but it's still pretty grim and inaccessible, with an air of misanthropy that the more embellished BM bands just can't muster.

Lament_A_Morte 08-25-2005 11:57 PM

I like Dimmu Borgir more than Cradle but I am a fan of both..

Disfunction 08-26-2005 01:06 AM

Danny Filth is just oh-so-very much fun.

ElendarSilvermoon 08-26-2005 01:49 PM

I'm not much into Cradle (who are also probably among the top bands often confused for black metal) but I do love Dimmu Borgir. Their old stuff has that cold black metal feel to it and their new stuff has that symphonic edge to it that I'm just a complete sucker for.

Kettu 08-26-2005 03:51 PM

... I still listen to Bauhaus...

D.C. 09-01-2005 12:28 PM

Dimmu is kinda wack but Cradle hell fukin YAh

Peter 09-01-2005 12:33 PM

Generally, I don't like Cradle, but occasionally they do a decent one-off song, the last one I liked was "Nymphetemine Girl" (If I spelled that wrong, don't worry, it isn't a real word anyway) which featured the very talented singer from Leaves' Eyes.

They also do pretty good covers of Iron Maiden songs.

Kali Maxwell 09-01-2005 01:05 PM

Cradle. Definitely Cradle. Dani's voice is awesome, and the guitar playing is just as good. I love their "beauty and the beast"-type sound. I'm also a huge fan of the lyrics, if you've ever taken the time to read any of them. It doesn't matter to me that they don't do full makeup and leather in their daily lives. They're sort of celebrating that evil look, and making fun of it at the same time.

CoF's videos are often sort of campy, and very fun to watch. In the image department, Cradle still wins over Dimmu, because Dimmu seems to be trying way too hard to be serious. (Please see video "Progenies of the Great Apocalypse"; now there's pretention.)

Dimmu's music's not bad; some of the composure is really good. When it comes to vocals, there are people who have the talent to scream, and there are people who don't. Dimmu's lead man doesn't, at least in my opinion.

ElendarSilvermoon 09-01-2005 07:31 PM

I always viewed Dani Filth as more of a screecher than a growler. His vocals are definitely unique for the genre, though screeches like that aren't difficult to pull off. I think most other extreme metal vocalists just want to preserve their voices longer, because I can vouch firsthand that those screeches are like rubbing sandpaper on your throat after you do them for a while.

dreamydancer 09-02-2005 03:00 PM

You'd think someone with really bad make-up would look better without it. But no, not in Dani's case.

Spazik 09-02-2005 04:05 PM

I dont like cradle of filth because I'm not in junior high. I kinda like Korn, as cliche as it is, but I'm really more of a Nirvana/Greenday/Sublime type. Deduct my goth points, I guess.

pitseleh 09-02-2005 04:26 PM

Present Goth Points: 78

Nirvana: 0
Green Day: -8
Sublime: -10

Revised Goth Points: 60

18 of your posts will henceforth be deleted.

(God, I wish I had mod powers...)

Spazik 09-02-2005 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pitseleh
Present Goth Points: 78

Nirvana: 0
Green Day: -8
Sublime: -10

Revised Goth Points: 60

18 of your posts will henceforth be deleted.

(God, I wish I had mod powers...)

Score me five more since I decided not to clean up the stereotypical big pile of black clothes in the middle of my bedroom floor.

Kali Maxwell 09-04-2005 09:38 AM

Spazik: "I dont like cradle of filth because I'm not in junior high."

Huh? I'm not either. Graduated high school a little over a year ago.

Back on topic somewhat: I think Dani's very attractive either way, but maybe that's just because I'm a fangirl. ;) He does, however, look better in fangs.

Now, the guy from Dimmu... *shudders* Blah.

ThwanCondu 09-14-2005 10:24 PM

I like how effeminate Dani is compared to Dimmu. Dimmu are too macho for me. I've known people to think Dani's a girl for both his looks and voice before. I suppose I've never heard that much Dimmu anyway, but Cradle holds a dear place in my black heart.

PaNo 09-15-2005 05:43 PM

love Filth .... other one never heard of ...
dont really know why im so into Cradle of Filth but for some reason when im dipressed its the only thing that calmes me down ...

Black Gestalt 09-15-2005 09:27 PM

Dimmu. Not a huge fan of either though.

YuCk_FoU! 09-19-2005 08:21 AM

cradle of filth...i don't know the other either.i've been listening cof since nymphetamine,and i like danni's voice and sure the excellent sound of electro guitar!

bitter_beauty 09-20-2005 01:18 AM

cradle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! deffinatly! the music is brill, the lyrics are so beautiful and they are all talented not to mention dani and his oops-my-skirt-came-undone looks hes bloody lovely

dimmu are ok

Jakadi 09-21-2005 10:10 AM

I love CoF...but only when Im in the mood for it.Most of it is sadistic and romantic.Dimmu Borgir....I love them..but there shit is angry and like "...fuck you Im a Satanist and you can suck my dick."

tekajo 09-21-2005 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThwanCondu
I've known people to think Dani's a girl for both his looks and voice before.

Yeah,first time i saw a video of them i thought "Whoa, she's hot"...Even did some searching for pictures on google..and still thought "Damn, she's hot"...and then the realisation that she was a he...."Oh."

The end.

kindred 09-23-2005 07:35 AM

dimmu, coz I like their so briliant lyrics (Spiritual black dimensions in perticular).

dreamydancer 09-24-2005 08:12 AM

Don't you mean they're? And for such a short sentence there are numerous errors.

dreamydancer 09-24-2005 08:22 AM

Actually, I'm not sure which one of them fits into your poorly constructed statement. It's not clear whether you're calling them or their lyrics brilliant.

CradleofFilthDaniLover 09-24-2005 01:19 PM

Cradle of Filth rox
 
I like Cradle better than Dimmu. I think that Cradle has more sence in there lyrics and more meaning. Don't get me wrong I love Dimmu too!!!!

Fenris 09-25-2005 12:29 AM

I like most of cradle of filths music where they borrow that female singer from wherever she's from, I really like the balance of growling, shrieking, and beautiful melodic singing. Nymphetamine is one of my favorite songs ever. Dimmu doesn't really do much for me, though admittedly I haven't heard much from them.

Demonista_Ravenesque 09-25-2005 02:41 AM

It's just something about them that I never liked..... I don't know why, but I seriously think that Dimmu and Cradle are the same thing.

Lelith_Hesperax 09-27-2005 11:06 PM

Cradle...of course, although I`ve never listened any similar bend(not my kind of music...I`m more for industrial)

Jiggan 09-29-2005 06:18 AM

Wow, that's sick..This is the first place I've seen that doesn't have 100 posts of flames about CoF, that they just pretend to be black metal...etc? :)

Anyway, CoF's better than Dimmu in my opinion - I never listen to either of them anymore though. :\

Shemjazza 09-29-2005 11:09 PM

BURZUM! why has no one mentioned the paramount driving force in the early Norwegian scene! he is the gratest black metal force of all time. Nowdays anything (nearly- scrap sargeist) on moribund cult records, examples: Xasthur, Leviathan. and Shining.
Cradle, as i have mentioned somewhere else, are a embarassment to Black MEtal everywhere, and Dimmu do not release enough outstanding material to warrant attention.
For all Tid was exelent though. don't go in much for ths general smyphonic BM, i prefer the more avant-garde Arcturus style stuff. Garm (or trickster G or whaterver) is a God.

Akuma2636 09-30-2005 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lament_A_Morte
I like Dimmu Borgir more than Cradle but I am a fan of both..

Ditto. I think Dimmu is just a great band, I'm currently in love with two of their songs, an oldie and a newie (Unorthodox Manifesto and Alt Lys Er Svunnet Hen), but I really don't mind CoF, ^_^, current favourite CoF song is Lord Abortion.

Mistress_Bathory69 09-30-2005 06:55 PM

Cradle of filth kix ass! Bathory is the coolest song ever!

Shemjazza 10-02-2005 08:41 PM

Bathory was an exelent band. RIP Quarthorn, a true son of northern darkness.
"Tomorrow is a fine day to die"

Defy 10-04-2005 08:50 PM

COF

voice
music

is balance with style

Glorious Rays of Sunshine 10-04-2005 10:28 PM

Nicolas is way more talented in Dimmu Borgir, but I still liked him best when he was in Cradle; he's much better than any other Cradle drummer. As for vocals, I dislike Dimmu's, but I can stand them. It was the same with Cradle, but I've gotten fond of Dani's in an odd sort of way. 'The Principle of Evil Made Flesh', and 'Dusk...And Her Embrace' are their best, in my opinion.

TPoEMF has some awesome vocals...I wish Dani would've kept them the same; he doesn't screech as much.

Bloodfire_Angel666 10-05-2005 08:50 AM

cradle all the way dani is just way too cool

chancre_sore 10-05-2005 10:22 AM

Both. They are both awesome in their own way. Cradle for Dani's insane voice range, and Dimmu for the driving ferocity behind Shagrath's roar.

Hatake 10-24-2005 02:46 PM

cradle for the ppl in my wood XD

im just kidding, i like cof and dani´s voice

NightwishCobain 10-26-2005 09:42 AM

Cradle Of Filth....I haven't heard the other band though...one of my best mates is obsessed with CoF so i love them too otherwise she would slit my throat at night! lol no i like From the Cradle to Enslave....

SicGoth 10-27-2005 05:23 PM

Thats hard but I would have to say Cradle Of Filth cause I know there music alot more and listen to them everyday pretty much but Dimmu Borgir are fucking good as well but have to say COF.

DeathTrip 11-04-2005 11:02 AM

I cant say I listen to much metal anymore, but as I am seeing Cradle in December, I vote for them.

Niels 11-05-2005 02:05 PM

CoF sucks live, Dimmu is ok live.

''I cant say I listen to much metal anymore, but as I am seeing Cradle in December, I vote for them.''

Good luck... They really suck live...

I'm curious about the remake of Dimmu's old album Stormblast, I hope they don't fuck up the piano parts...

Black Gestalt 11-05-2005 05:44 PM

Haha, Dimmu makes me happy. Cradle makes me laugh.

I think Dimmu though.


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