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Isotope 12-28-2006 05:30 AM

Goth fashion label?
 
1. Romantic goth
2. Androgyn goth
3. Corporate Slave goth
4. Cyber goth
5. Fairy goth
6. Hippie goth
7. Fetish goth
8. Jeand 'n' T-shirt goth
9. Deathrock/Punk goth
10. Western goth
11. Tribal goth
12. Vampire goth

And here's their photos:

1. http://www.gothic.pnz.ru/Gotica/picgoth/romantic.jpg
2. http://foto.rambler.ru/public/0/3/03...rogyn3-web.jpg
3. http://static.flickr.com/45/184108211_d115bbd43e_m.jpg
4. http://static.flickr.com/61/166010799_6b9a8e47d3_m.jpg
5. http://www.halloweencostumes4u.com/M...0003/16836.jpg
6. http://www.goodgoth.com/trysthoody.jpg
7. http://images.quizfarm.com/1143031585domina-cool.2.JPG
8. http://www.seankreynolds.com/forthee..._goth_girl.jpg
9. http://www.gothic.ru/subculture/goth21_s.jpg
10. http://www.rockdetector.com/assets/r...-220-0-300.jpg
11. http://lettertoamerica.podbus.com/pi...Bangor%201.jpg
12. http://www.goodgoth.com/corset1th.jpg

Which one is yours?

Feeble Minded 12-28-2006 06:38 AM

Thats interesting. I don't fit into any of these categories. *gasp* Does that mean I'm not gothic!? I do however like that Tribal Goth.

Minyaliel 12-28-2006 10:32 AM

You know what? I think this is silly, it's another list of stereotypes that don't really are true. I'm me, I dress like I want to, usually I have to make my own clothes because I can't find anything I like. I appreciate a rather dark aesthetic, and thus I was labelled a goth by society in general. I picked up the label for simplicity. Fairygoth or any of the other things you've mentioned in your list does not describe anyone as closely as the word "myself".

She_Is_My_Sin 12-28-2006 11:31 AM

Deary me. Goth is this & goth is that. Fair enough it is a bit of a genre spanner, but it's silly trying to cut it down into more groups.

maggot 12-28-2006 12:14 PM

You forgot kittygoth! :P

Mick Ignis 12-28-2006 12:16 PM

I'm Goth. Just Goth. I'm not a big fan of the labels within labels.

Godslayer Jillian 12-28-2006 12:47 PM

I do like labels. I find them useful.
But why should I say Spanish Mustang, Thoroughbred, or Swedish Warmblood, when I can more easily say Horse?

maggot 12-28-2006 01:06 PM

well is you want a Spanish Mustang, it's easier to say that,then describe the traits of one and have the other person figure out what you mean. It depends on the siuation.

Rose_of_Amethyst 12-28-2006 02:25 PM

The one thing that I wonder about is where did these "labels inside of labels" come from? The second thing that makes me wonder is what purpose do they actually serve? Are all these "types of goth" based entirely on how you dress or is it something more.

If it is just based on what one wears, it makes me worry that goth is becoming more about fashion and less about the music.

HumanePain 12-28-2006 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maggot
You forgot kittygoth! :P

and cemetery Goth.
http://www.hostingfiles.net/files/20...y_cemetery.jpg

The Vampire goth is wearing a cross. Seems out of character. But it's a free country.
(I think it was a mislabled photo.)

Our dear Poupee Celestia (who hasn't posted in a while) has a website somewhere explaining different kinds of goths, but it is in Spanish, just so you know. Can't seem to find it at the moment, I thought it was at
http://www.villagoth.com , but that doesn't respond (?).

Graveyard.Crow 12-28-2006 04:22 PM

I think the girls in all the pictures are so pretty
*drools*

Isotope 12-29-2006 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maggot
You forgot kittygoth! :P

I think it's probably the same as fairy goth:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
I do like labels. I find them useful.

Woohoo one more person who isn't "i-don't-label" or "i-am-myself" :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rose_of_Amethyst
If it is just based on what one wears, it makes me worry that goth is becoming more about fashion and less about the music.

And what about goth music labels? Gothrock, deathrock, darkwave...and etc.
Well, i hope, goth wont become more about fashion, then we could label almost all mallgoths as goths. Now that would be a catastrophe!

Quote:

Originally Posted by HumanePain
and cemetery Goth.

I'd say, cemetery goth is the same as vampire. Anyways, i found those on internet
http://www.angelfire.com/goth/goth_teens/gotika.html

Mick Ignis 12-29-2006 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
I do like labels. I find them useful.

I like the "Goth" label, because it has a lot of space to move around in. I can't really limit myself to one goth type, because my style changes daily with my mood. I like experimenting with different clothing.

Godslayer Jillian 12-29-2006 02:44 AM

What I like about these specific types of gothic looks is that when one of my friends asks me something like "why do you limit your wardrobe to only goth?" I can say something like "Oh, but there is an ample variety in goth. There's *insert several of the above gothic styles*, et cetera. Don't you limit your wardrobe more to only preppy?"
It's a fun way to respond that has had produced a couple of laughs, although I only use it when I feel overly antagonistic. More often I just prefer to say "It's not my taste that really limits my clothes so much as money."

Isotope 12-29-2006 07:11 AM

By the way, i found those in russian:
http://www.gothic.ru/subculture/gsubfaq.htm#6.3

HumanePain 12-29-2006 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
More often I just prefer to say "It's not my taste that really limits my clothes so much as money."

Same here:
Trench coat: $69
Psycho Jacket: $70
Boots: $129
Various t-shirts: $100
Various shirts: $200
Various pants: $200
Belts: ~$50
Tophat: $10
Bracelets, necklaces and other jewelry: $200+
Approximate total (for the past year): $1,028 US

And this doesn't even include music, concert tickets, incense, posters, skulls, ravens, gothic cross decorations for the home and office...

HumanePain 12-29-2006 08:23 AM

And I forgot to include weekly drycleaning for all of the previous clothes!
$$$

Isotope 12-29-2006 08:51 AM

O_O
Expensive as hell.

Godslayer Jillian 12-29-2006 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HumanePain
Same here:
Trench coat: $69
Psycho Jacket: $70
Boots: $129
Various t-shirts: $100
Various shirts: $200
Various pants: $200
Belts: $50
Tophat: $10
Bracelets, necklaces and other jewelry: $200+
Approximate total (for the past year): $1,028 US

Being as cool as HumanePain: Priceless.:D

Zenit 12-29-2006 03:01 PM

Hrm, when you said tribalgoth I expected something along the lines of an incorporation of an ethnic piece of clothing...Disapointing...But then again, I could have misunderstood the whole consept. I tend to do that.

deathbecomesme 12-29-2006 03:35 PM

I don't really like Labels but if you must call me something i think i best fit in the:

1. Romantic goth

Although i prefer the term Victorain Goth but its the same thing basically.

Rose_of_Amethyst 12-29-2006 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isotope
And what about goth music labels? Gothrock, deathrock, darkwave...and etc.
Well, i hope, goth wont become more about fashion, then we could label almost all mallgoths as goths. Now that would be a catastrophe!


Different genres of music such as you have listed do not bother me. In my opinion it's just goth music with a different spin on it if you will.

The fashion doesn't bother me, I actually quite like the various styles of clothing. What I do find irritating is the emphasis being put on fashion more than music, at least in my area. For example if you don't wear "goth" clothing, you are not goth. That leaves a lot of room open for mallgoths to creep in.

HumanePain 12-29-2006 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isotope
By the way, i found those in russian:
http://www.gothic.ru/subculture/gsubfaq.htm#6.3

Damn, those Russians are ahead of us! There is a "Goth-Gap"! Each of us in the Western World must spend thousands more to catch up, lest they out-Goth us and dominate the world! (holds up credit card and runs to Ipso-Facto dot com)

( I really liked the skeleton arm necklace that looks like it is giving the wearer a stranglehold!)

Isotope 12-30-2006 02:37 AM

I hate the fact that i'm so bad at their language!

Feeble Minded 12-30-2006 07:02 AM

The only label used is goth.

For example, we are all human, but we have different races. But the word that comes after *insert race here* is always going to be human.

They're just adjectives to describe the fashion.

cradle 12-30-2006 07:45 AM

I liked number 6, 7, and 9.

But anyway....I agree with Jill and Mick.

Miss_Hazie_Lane 12-30-2006 11:15 AM

Vintage shopping indiewhore record store clerk goth... actaully just scratch the goth there, either that or androgynous gypsy punk glam rock victorian club kid goth... and this is why we don't even try to label Hazel

emeraldlonewoulf 12-30-2006 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HumanePain
Same here:
Trench coat: $69
Psycho Jacket: $70
Boots: $129
Various t-shirts: $100
Various shirts: $200
Various pants: $200
Belts: ~$50
Tophat: $10
Bracelets, necklaces and other jewelry: $200+
Approximate total (for the past year): $1,028 US

And this doesn't even include music, concert tickets, incense, posters, skulls, ravens, gothic cross decorations for the home and office...


hey, I know it is hard to find that perfect style and when you do, really, REALLY hard not tp shell out the bucks, but:

Czechoslovakian virgin wool trench found at Savers thrift store: $6
Levi jacket i've had for five years easily modified: $29 dollars new, and it already has that "authentic" worn look.
steel toe Doc Martens: $128, but free because my company pays for work boots :P
t-shirts : 1 pack black t's $4, other cool band shirts found at thrift stores, yard sales, etc., maybe $15
Shirts: same as above, also two longsleeve polartec military style thumbhole long-john shirts, partly silk, free, practically new, through Freecycle ( a great resource if there is a group in your area).
Pants: same as above, plus a wonderful pair of faux leather pants for $10, same source., and two pair cammie pants, also from freecycle.
Belts: same as above.
Jewelry: homemade, plus some made from found objects, reclaimed beads, reworked second hand items, and family hand-me-downs.

Hats: found great vintage ones in same as above.


second hand sewing machine to customize everything: $20

lace, findings, fabric accessories, jewelry making supplies, fabric, etc., much of which was found second hand or on clearance: maybe $100 (that's my weak spot, but it covered over half the christmas presents i gave this year too :P )

so, a wardrobe for under $200......this year. and i still manage to "scare" the crap out of my co-workers....although that may have more to do with mentioning i make custom bondage-style jewelry....and like knives, want to learn gunsmithing, etc.

All i'm saying is you don't HAVE to fork out the cash, although it is fun once in a while, especially if you find the "perfect" thing.

emeraldlonewoulf 12-30-2006 11:32 AM

as for labels, they are useful. classification can describe things. but, some things are beyond classification. or don't fit the system built to classify them. the whole goth label thing is just something kind of fun, and could help a little in describing personal interest.

Aude Sapere 12-30-2006 07:28 PM

Im a jeans and t-shirt one, mostly, with a little bit of cyber , along with some deathrock/Punk. I dress however i want to. But the Romantic Goth style is one of my favorites, i just don't have the money or the talent to pull it off.

Godslayer Jillian 12-30-2006 08:14 PM

Can someone explain me the "Hippy goth"?
I don't understand how that goes.

Cicero 12-31-2006 05:05 AM

I find these sub-labels to the subculture useful only when shopping for clothes on the internet. I couldn't use them for people since most don't fit into just one of the categories. It's sort of like trying to classify someone by clothing brands: "I know you're kinda preppy, but are you a Calvin Klein or Abercrombie and Fitch?". Someone can favour those brands, but no one 'becomes' them.

From the list, I favour mostly Romantic Goth, Corporate Goth and Deathrock styles in my wardrobe. Other elements make appearances though. It's really quite a mess sometimes.

honeythorn 12-31-2006 08:12 AM

Visually I am a mix of Romantic, corporate, tribal and vampire :D

emeraldlonewoulf 12-31-2006 08:17 AM

umm, i think hippie goth is kinda like black ripped broomstick skirts, chunky dreads (not synthetics) , think the whole hippy clothing with dark colors, black, and ripped lace.... but i could be way off...

honeythorn 12-31-2006 08:22 AM

I don't really see how the picture below would classify "hippy" as a gothic clothing style. I always imagined upon hearing the term hippygoth, that the wearer of such a style would be dressed in dark tie-dyes, a lot of beads perhaps? I always imagined a few more bright colours and wools, less makeup, things like that. Well, that's the image that comes to my mind anyway!!!!

HumanePain 12-31-2006 11:17 AM

I read a new one on the 'net last night:
"Beat-Goth". Probably the closest in terms of fashion to what I am.

Graveyard.Crow 12-31-2006 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isotope
By the way, i found those in russian:
http://www.gothic.ru/subculture/gsubfaq.htm#6.3

Yay I can read that! Russian people seem to be turning gothic over the years. I guess we chose a bad time to move.

Mick Ignis 12-31-2006 03:36 PM

Is there Silent Era Goth? You know, style taken from the 20s and 30s?

I seem to mostly dress Hippy Goth judging by those pictures, but I didn't realize it was called that. I'm sure not a hippy.

Graveyard.Crow 12-31-2006 04:02 PM

The silent era goth is goth in general. I think anyway. The idea of bright eyes and lips, and white faces came from silent movies. Or so it seems.

Graveyard.Crow 12-31-2006 04:03 PM

The silent era goth would be me, no actually my make up is more of the Bettie Page type.

Minyaliel 01-01-2007 07:16 AM

Well, if I have to label myself (which would be just as useful as it seems to be in Hazie's case) it would be something like "individualistic DIY-ing sometimes- androgynous- looking romantic fairy- rocker- fetish goth with an affection for the clothing of the Medieval ages and of old black- and- white movies". Still, I find this somewhat limiting, considering that I often just wear whatever baggy clothes I can find when I'm at home, and just skipping the make- up and pretty much everything else when I know I won't be going outdoors that day anyway...

Isotope 01-02-2007 04:36 AM

I noticed, i haven't post yet:D
I'm cyber+deathrocker
Never choose one

Miss_Hazie_Lane 01-02-2007 08:00 AM

I <3 fairy tale rock, everlistend to sky salt (Is being off topic, but can be forgiven due to excitment)

asta_tintora 01-07-2007 01:29 PM

Yay! Pretty ladies make heart happy! ...But ah yeah. Drat, I still tend to fall into the corporate-goth look without the cool trench coat. ...One of these days I'll save up the money for one.

Heatherzilla 01-07-2007 06:36 PM

I'm a mix of everything. If I see something I like I'll buy it (if I have money) . I still like to dress up :P I'm such a little kid sometimes.

erotomaniac87 01-08-2007 06:00 PM

I don't really know what category I fall into, and I don't really care as I find it a bit ridiculous labeling my sense of style. I just wear whatever I feel comfortable in. ;)

PoupeeCelestia 01-09-2007 07:56 PM

Oh...Humane Pain, I felt so moved when I saw you remembered me =´)...well...I´m working on that translation...I´ve had a lot of problems lately...and I started school. And yeah, the web page...I´m so mad, I feel like a want to ripp the host manager´s head off...*evilface*
Meanwhile, here is the list of stereotypes I used...they are a compilation of all the terms I´ve seen in my life:

Cementery /Macabre/Death Goth
Christian Goth
Corporate Goth
Cranky/Cynical Goth
Cyber Goth/Net.Goth
Egypcian Goth
Elder Goth
Fetish/PVC Goth
Gay Goth
Geek Goth
Gothabilly
Gothic ******/Aristocrat
Ink Goth
Kinder Goth/Spooky Kid/Babygoth
Mall Goth
Medieval/Romantic/Ren Faire Goth
Mopey Goth
Oriental/Baby Doll/Schoolgirl Goth
Pagan Goth
Perky Goth
Poseur/Bozy/Wannabe
Quantum Goth
Raver Goth
Uber Goth
Vampire Goth

Others...(not goth at all)
Deathrockers
Metalheads
Rivetheads
Weekenders

I´ll post a link with the translation when I´m done. Soon. I Hope....

darkness-creepshow 01-09-2007 08:09 PM

There are way too many labels. Comon labels kind of suck there not really any good. Lol gay goth? You cant tell if there gay and spooky kid, mall goth?? I hope this thread is a joke.

HumanePain 01-09-2007 10:05 PM

YAY! Our dear Poupee is back! :)

Clockwork 01-10-2007 12:46 AM

As I consider it, "labels" do serve a purpose, and that's categorizing similar concepts, styles, etc. We use it all the time; it's the difference between animals and cars. What's tricky is deciding on an official name for these concepts as they become more specific and obscure. I don't mind labeling - but what I dislike is mislabeling, which includes stereotyping.

Anyway, playing within these rules, I must teeter somewhere between Androgyn, Corporate Slave, and a Jeans and T-shirt goth. Given unlimited time, money, and resources however, I'd have a broader range.


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