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killer_asian_Dax 05-25-2007 09:20 PM

Your Local Scene
 
So I was at a club called Perversion last night (the first time I'd been in a while) and I noticed a lot of My Chemical Romance look-a-like kids. Great hair! But the outfits were killing me. And the skinny pants! For some reason there were a lot of vaccuum-sealed pant clad lads in attendance.

It got me thinking....what is the scene like where you live? How do the patrons dress at your local club? Are there many "normal" people that go or is it mostly JUST the 'goffs'?

Let me know how your area gets down and who all (what groups/styles of people) is in attendance.

Splintered 05-25-2007 09:59 PM

The scene around my school, which is pretty much the only place I have access to, is a giant devide. You have ravers on one end, the as-you-described it "My Chemical Romance Look-A-Like Kids" in the middle, and the Metalheads on the other. They all like each other, but that's pretty much the whole "scene".

emeraldlonewoulf 05-25-2007 10:15 PM

HA! Scene? What scene? Here we have bars (because they are bars, not clubs) that are the standard country/70's style rock atmosphere There is also one 24 hr kinda biker bar, and the casinos.

The nearest metrolpolis is Reno, I don't get there that often and have been looking for a good place for a night out. If anybody knows of one, I'd appreciate a heads up.

I suppose there are the standard groups in the highschools, but I don't want to get slapped with a "contributing to delinquency" charge :P .

Seraphynth 05-26-2007 12:17 AM

It's all metalheads and "My Chemical Romance Look-A-Like Kids".
I know this, not because I go to these places, but because my friends go to said places and always complain about how I'm the only chick who dresses the way I do. And then they go on about how they wish I were single.
Sometimes I wish I were single too. :C

Vako 05-26-2007 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killer_asian_Dax
So I was at a club called Perversion last night (the first time I'd been in a while) and I noticed a lot of My Chemical Romance look-a-like kids. Great hair! But the outfits were killing me. And the skinny pants! For some reason there were a lot of vaccuum-sealed pant clad lads in attendance.

It got me thinking....what is the scene like where you live? How do the patrons dress at your local club? Are there many "normal" people that go or is it mostly JUST the 'goffs'?

Let me know how your area gets down and who all (what groups/styles of people) is in attendance.

None whatsoever. I have to drive at least 15 to 40 miles in any direction to find anything remotely similar. And when I get there, I find people who think like Draconysius and the other people on this thread. Could you please not refer to us as "metalheads"? That's really demeaning and undignifying. Just because you are incapable of respecting Metal does not mean you should treat me like an illegal alien in an Interment camp. And how dare any of you even compare "metalheads" to anything untern. I should take my "elf hair" and my homophobia to the corner shoppe and listen to my shitty Metal music.

In the meantime I'll listen to a bunch of pre-pubescants tell me all about what "Goth" is. Sometimes I don't know whether I love or hate this website.

Vako 05-26-2007 01:39 AM

Oh, by the way, Killer_Asian_Dax, I wasn't referring to you, I was referring to other people in this thread. I quoted you by accident.

CountSixstring 05-26-2007 02:08 AM

The scene in my tow is lame. Here's a tip. If you want good success as a goth and you don't want to b stabbed or lynched, don't live in Tennesee. I must say I have found one thing. Its a goth night every Wednsday at this club called "New Moon".

Seraphynth 05-26-2007 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vako
Could you please not refer to us as "metalheads"? That's really demeaning and undignifying. Just because you are incapable of respecting Metal does not mean you should treat me like an illegal alien in an Interment camp. And how dare any of you even compare "metalheads" to anything untern. I should take my "elf hair" and my homophobia to the corner shoppe and listen to my shitty Metal music.

In the meantime I'll listen to a bunch of pre-pubescants tell me all about what "Goth" is. Sometimes I don't know whether I love or hate this website.

I have no problem with the metalheads. O_o
I listen to metal. It's just they actually refer to themselves as metalheads, so I figured it wasn't anything degrading.
Said guys who complain about me being the only chick who dresses the way I do are metalheads who refer to themselves as such. And I must say, they are damn sexy with their tattoos and piercings and ripped off sleeves. And then actually hearing them sing (or should I say scream?). It's just...WOW. O_o
Sorry to offend you, Vako, I really didn't think it was offensive. :C

Seraphynth 05-26-2007 02:29 AM

Er, also, Vako, I wasn't comparing the two as similar. Just I live in a small area and so the two groups (as well as a bunch of other groups) tend to all hang out together and go see the same bands play. The town I actually live in is so small I can't even get a job 'cause everyone hired within a day of handing out applications. :/
I don't 'cause I live too far out for anyone to drive out and pick me up, so I don't go and mingle. I'd drive my self, but I still haven't gotten my license 'cause I'm scared of driving. ^^;

Minyaliel 05-26-2007 02:59 AM

My local scene... uh... admittedly, I've only met people in my city on the internet (with the exception of one guy, who does the costumes at the Opera), but they seem to be nice. I never go to clubs here because the music they play seem to be mostly based on EBM and metal, two musical genres that I personally can't like.

Underwater Ophelia 05-26-2007 12:33 PM

I don't have an amazing scene where I live, but since I'm within spitting distance of Philly and fairly close to New York, I'm lucky to have a decent scene.

Around here, you can find any type of person. Even in my my highschool, there are rivet heads, ravers, goths, and deathrockers. Of course, there are lots of emo people and such, but it's not a big deal.

HumanePain 05-26-2007 12:41 PM

I think the best way to describe my local scene is pictures. Here is a few for now, but I will post more after tonight's show.

Downstairs at The Showcase Theatre:

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...x/mosh-wtf.jpg

Humane with Top Hat upstairs at The Showcase Theatre:

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...osh-Humane.jpg

Splintered 05-26-2007 12:45 PM

I listen to an assload of metal.
I love metal, and I am proud to call myself a metalhead.
Sure, it's stereotyped, but when has stereotypes ever really mattered here?

Renatus 05-26-2007 01:01 PM

Eh I want to see more of Humane with top hat.

Here where I live we have lots of emos, as well as lots of people thinking they're goths prancing around in their tripp pants I don't even think they have heard actual goth music. They have their own little dark corner in the hall where they listen to their music (not a single goth song played to date), one even went as far as walking up to one of my classmates and pulled out a bunch of staples she put in her arms showing off her scars. Unfortunatly the student populus believes them, and never even listens to me due to the fact that I don't always wear black and never wear any hot topic clothes. Such a terrible repuation they create, they even support the theory that all goths are satanists quite verbally.

Cyntrox 05-26-2007 01:28 PM

If there are any goths where I live, they're hiding.

Tismine 05-26-2007 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyntrox
If there are any goths where I live, they're hiding.

It's the same with me. As much as I enjoy seeing the stars at night, small towns, quite frankly, suck. :p

raggedyanne 05-26-2007 04:27 PM

I loathe small towns. If anyone knows of anything remotely gothy about Novato besides me, please speak up! Could someone notify me if there are any good clubs/groups/etc. anywhere around Santa Rosa-San Francisco area?

raggedyanne 05-26-2007 04:33 PM

I do admit that I can be a bit of a metalhead, but I am definately gothic. I have only met two other goths that live within 10 miles of me. Sadness.

killer_asian_Dax 05-26-2007 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raggedyanne
I loathe small towns. If anyone knows of anything remotely gothy about Novato besides me, please speak up! Could someone notify me if there are any good clubs/groups/etc. anywhere around Santa Rosa-San Francisco area?

Gurl! You should have just asked me. (But then again, you didn't know)

San Fran's got some pretty okay/good goth on-goings going on. Just google "San Francisco Goth clubs" or "goth club listings" and you'll be directed to the dark happenings up in your part of California. There's also a pretty big club in Sac if you're up for going that far. I don't know exactly where in Norcal you live, but there is definitely stuff to do up there for us dark-lovers.

Email me at silentknight84 @ M to the S to the N dot COM!

raggedyanne 05-26-2007 04:37 PM

Okay, I'll e-mail you! Gracias Dax.

Cicero 05-26-2007 08:08 PM

The scene here isn't too bad at all. Cybergoths seem to dominate most of the club scene, along with EBM, but there's a deathrock night once a month which I plan on going to the moment I turn 18, and also a retro gothic rock/new wave night every week. As with anywhere (except maybe Camden in London) there isn't much of a detectable gothic 'presence' in the city, and it takes a bit of research to hunt down the local haunts.

Godslayer Jillian 05-26-2007 10:18 PM

Clubs over here are for 'normies'.
Not saying they're not alright; they're like the places you see in Wild On; but they're not somewhere I love to go every week.
Though I have been to another club. Definitely not for 'normies', but most certainly not for me. It's the club for all those society rejects and society-reject-wannabes and people that think Goth=Metal. Awful, awful music.
Then there's a club of whose existence I have only heard of at the other side of the river, and now that I'm 18 I'll try to find it. Maybe I'll find a place for me in there. ^^

heretoday_gonetomorrow 05-27-2007 07:40 PM

The closest club I know of is in Philadelphia. I don't really like the "goths" at my school, mostly because they're irresponsible, don't care about school, and listen to metal...which I hate. The "goths" at my school, are just extremely annoying, and all they do is hang out at the mall...very boring bunch in my opinion.

Lucretia_my_Reflection 05-27-2007 07:50 PM

I live in a heavily Marilyn Manson look alike area, but if you drive to the closest city [Brisbane] most people are pretty cool there. The closest one to me is in Brisbane which is Faith, kiss kiss bang bang etc.

Vako 05-27-2007 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
It's the club for all those society rejects and society-reject-wannabes and people that think Goth=Metal.

I hope you don't think of me like that.

Vako 05-27-2007 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HumanePain
I think the best way to describe my local scene is pictures. Here is a few for now, but I will post more after tonight's show.

Downstairs at The Showcase Theatre:

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...x/mosh-wtf.jpg

Humane with Top Hat upstairs at The Showcase Theatre:

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...osh-Humane.jpg

The Showcase Theatre in Corona? A bit far for me but maybe I will give it a try one of these days.

Godslayer Jillian 05-28-2007 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vako
I hope you don't think of me like that.

There's a difference between a goth that likes metal, and a metaller that believes he's a goth.
You're the former.

LiUsAiDh 05-29-2007 04:37 PM

Scene? Ha! I've only ever seen one group of goths in Cumbria, turned out they were on a school trip from down south... As for clubs, there's only one which plays rock, let alone goth stuff...

Stormtrooper of Death 05-29-2007 07:36 PM

In Minnesota, we dont' have much eh. My school is like this. Preps, jocks, nerds, metalheads, goths and me and the other 10 or so punks occupy my school. Yes, I'm a punk, but I also listen to metal. Say what you want. I lead the small punk faction in my school. 10 or so kids.

deafasadoornail 05-29-2007 10:49 PM

I'm a mom with kids, so I don't do the club scene too much. We do have quite an active goth scene here, though -- plenty of emo kids and My Chemical Romance, but also some older goth who just hang around and discuss books and movies.

There's a mom at my kids school who is goth; she rocks the Bettie Page look but is otherwise a pretty typical mom. And there's a cool shop downtown called Wild at Heart. The family that runs it is goth also -- they named their newest baby Axel. I wonder if that makes them metalheads.... *ponders*

Vako 05-31-2007 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
There's a difference between a goth that likes metal, and a metaller that believes he's a goth.
You're the former.

I need to stand up for myself here. As stated in my intro thread, I do not identify as a Goth. I am a metaller (metalhead) who also appreciates Goth.

Jillian, you are obviously intelligent and well-written, and I have respect of you. but you have made a very sad error in judgment of my person.

I have explained myself. I hope, eventually, that as we get to know each other on this site, that I will earn a bit of your respect.

As I stated, I am a metaller who also appreciates Goth. I never claimed to be Goth.

Aaroneet 05-31-2007 06:41 PM

As I have stated before, I have never met any other true goths. Only confused mallgoths and emos.

Vako 06-01-2007 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
There's a difference between a goth that likes metal, and a metaller that believes he's a goth.
You're the former.

... give a man enough rope to hang himself, and he will ...

Vyvian Blackthorne 06-01-2007 06:57 AM

Gothic Metal? I actually rather like Gothic metal. I mean, I think Paradise Lost has some good work. It bares no resembles to goth rock, already discussed, but I think that it's still a good type of Doom-Metal. I wish my area had a goth scene :(

Goth Forever

badteccy 06-01-2007 07:05 AM

The club scene here is mostly cybergoths with a few regular goths,deathrockers, and raver types. Ah well...
I am the only "goth" chick at my school...I mean, I get along with everyone but I wish I had people at my school that I could talk about music...no matter, I GRADUATE ON WEDNESDAY! WOO!

Vyvian Blackthorne 06-01-2007 07:10 AM

Goodness, congratulations badteccy for your graduation! :D :D You've got to tell us how it went once it happens.

Goth Forever

Valerius 06-01-2007 07:23 AM

Sadly, people all around me are all MCR look-alikes. Got a few goth friends at university, but we're all overwhelmed by all the emo kids. Fuck, when I think about it, I often scare moms and little children when I'm in my full regalia never having seen a goth before.

Vyvian Blackthorne 06-01-2007 07:48 AM

Gosh Val...I get that kind of reaction from mother's hiding there children as well. Oh boy...sighs...looks like some people will never learn acceptance but who am I to whin? Never mind

Goth Forever

Zenit 06-01-2007 08:08 AM

Hm, scene? What's that?

I know of a dozen or so goth-looking people around here. They are all either spooky witchthingies, Mansonfans, eternally depressed or vampires in cheap cloaks. And they all dislike me because I told the leader she was a tad immature going about "cursing" me all the time. No clubs, no bars and the single one café in the area where remotely dark intelectuals used to gather and talk about the world went bankrupt last month...

Also, you have an ocean of emos, and this summer MCR is coming to Hove festival in the next town over. Everyone is in euforialand and even more annoying than usual. There is also a tribe of metalheads, cool as ever, but they only count three and are in constant feuds with eachother and the punks. A lot of people, not a lot of persons.

Saddiction 06-01-2007 08:57 AM

The club scene here is ok. Definately better than no scene. What's the deal with the US? There are a lot of replies from people still in highschool in regards to their club scene. I thought the legal age down there was 21. Do clubs operate differently re:age? I do recall going to Das Bunker in LA and having to wear a wrist band while others did not. My assumtion was that people who have wrist bands were able to buy alcohol.

PinstripesAndPithHelmets 06-01-2007 09:16 AM

There's one place in my town - that I know of - that has a goth night. It's generally considered the "underground" place, and will cater to different crowds depending on what night of the week it is and who's playing. I find that I get along much better with the patrons on goth night or when there's some older punk rock fans about than when the hippies or the bohemian crowd are in. The bohemians are usually pretentious fucks and the hippies generally don't talk to anyone not sporting dreadlocks. It's a mixed bag, this place I speak of.

Someone needs to tell the bohemians that Buddy Holly has been dead for some time, and those glasses of his ain't never comin' back. Also, tweed in the height of summer is just plain stupid.

Valerius 06-01-2007 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vyvian Blackthorne
Gosh Val...I get that kind of reaction from mother's hiding there children as well. Oh boy...sighs...looks like some people will never learn acceptance but who am I to whin? Never mind

Goth Forever

Yeah, you're darn right. But, I guess that's how the way things may need to be. I'm sure a number of us dress up for pure shock value, and the goth subculture does stand out because of the way we dress.

It's amusing anyway, so may as well have a few laughs along the way.

I got big plans of fostering a scene where I live. It will be a huge bar/fight club/brothel/fetish bar that caters to all the decadence any goth can think of and do it in style.

Muahahahahaha!!!

Raptor 06-01-2007 10:18 AM

I know maybe one goths near me, but I don't see him much. The other one I did know moved to NZ last year. The two club type places I used to go to mainly play indie and emo, certainly don't have goth nights. One of them has also banned 18 year olds and up including band members anyway. The one that lets all ages in plays more emo. I should try out somewhere in Camden.

Move near me first Valerius :p

Valerius 06-01-2007 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptor
Move near me first Valerius :p

Hahaha! Well, I don't know about that since the building I'm planning to put my goth club in is firmly planted in the ground - all fourteen stories of it.

I will, however, give you a sneak peek of the main area where the dance floor is to be.

Clicky

It may seem small in the picture (camera phone pic, go figure), but the open area is 20m by 25m, with an exact mirror image opposite of what you see on left of the picture, beyond the view of the photo. Entrance is on the right side, beyond the view of the photo. The whole dance floor is actually bigger than what the damn camera can capture, so what you see is 1/3 of the whole thing.

Clicky

That photo above shows a room on the thirteenth floor. It's about 15m by 25m.

Clicky

This is a structure on the top floor which will house my office.

Clicky

And this is what's inside of that structure at the moment.

I can imagine it now, women dancing in cages hung from above the dance floor, waitresses in skimpy nurse outfits, bouncers in gimp outfits, the DJ on the second floor above the main area wearing a gasmask and a butcher's apron, VIPs sitting in those little alcoves on the secong floor watching the dancing below. It gets me all excited.

A few floors up is where individual women will be hung from a processing line like in a slaughter house, to be picked by a paying customer. (Yes, I think I will get flamed for this.) Then the dogfighting, private BDSM chambers and rooms like a motel.

But, that's still a healthy ten years away from now, and by then I will have fostered a thriving goth scene with my own hands. Muahahahahaha!!!

Raptor 06-01-2007 11:26 AM

That place looks great! Not to worry, I've been watching TV, you can do this. Thanks for the pics.

vampyremage 06-01-2007 06:03 PM

I don't really think that we have much of a goth scene out here, although I do occasionally see gothy types around town. Then again, I have been accused of not being the most observant of individuals and I tend to try and avoid large groups of people and social gatherings. I do know that whatever goth scene may or may not exist here does not exist within Victoria's gamer community, which are really the only people around here that I tend to spend much time with.

Maggoty Anne 06-14-2007 10:32 AM

All we have here in maine is country and emo/screamo.

prophecyofdoom 06-14-2007 07:20 PM

I haven't seen a goth within 20 miles of myself. Around my place of business I see a few mallgoths (clad head to toe from Hot Topic), but I've never spoken with them. I'm near enough to NYC to frequent a few clubs there, but I haven't for the past two years, due to having children and other life events.....I hope to be able to start clubbing again, at least every now and then, in about six months.

biohazard 06-26-2007 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tismine
It's the same with me. As much as I enjoy seeing the stars at night, small towns, quite frankly, suck. :p

Well I have a similiar problem, there are no goths where I live. My city is kind of small, but since I live in latin America the gothic subculture barely exists at all. Not to generalize, but I also think my country is one in which the gothic movement has developed the least.

KontanKarite 06-26-2007 07:23 PM

The scene here is great and pretty tight knit. Yes, there's the drama, but even despite the drama, we LOVE the music and we can at least agree or respect another goth's favorite genre.

We have cyber goths, deathrockers, romantigoths, rivet-heads, glam goths, half naked goths, a couple vampires, romanti-rivets (steampunks), and your regular ol' black jeans and band tee goths.

We're all just happy to know that we have something to get together on. Also, the age group is 21+ here. But we're working on integrating 18+. The only catch is, it's a thin line.

The younger kids are essentially a strange mix of emo and old school goth such as Robert Smith. Some of them think juggalos are goffic, but fuck em. They have Sumshees, so the baby-bats have their playground. RARELY you'll find an adult at Sumshees, but we all agree that MSL and Fuzion is where it's at.

The DJs USUALLY spin EBM, FuturePOP, harsh Industrial, and a splish splash of deathrock or goth rock. So, it's mainly a cybergoth or rivethead town.


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