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L'Oiseau Noir 09-08-2007 10:14 PM

Silent Hill...
 
What a brilliant series in my opinion. I was just wondering if there were other Silent Hill fans on this forum.

My favorite two had to be the first game and Silent Hill 3.

Oh, Alessa, you're just so damn cuddly.

Miss Cogs 09-08-2007 10:35 PM

Very much in love with Silent Hill. Though I have to admit I've only played and beaten 4. It's hard to find the other ones around here.


Don't you love how Silent Hill doesn't even try to be serious. Sexy music during a serious moment anyone? How about a dog controling what was happening the whole time. Or those pink bunnies. XD

Yes. There is someone on here who loves Silent Hill and more. o.O

L'Oiseau Noir 09-08-2007 10:48 PM

I like you even more now, Miss Cogs. xDD

Lmfao, sexy music. It's so true, too! I remember one part in Silent Hill 2 when James was talking to Maria, this... creepy jazz theme (like something you'd hear in a damn porno) was droning in the background. It made the character's conversation very awkward to say the least. xD

So many sexual inuendos in Silent Hill 2, lol.

But yeah, you can actually get Silent Hill 2-4 from Konami's website. They're only twenty or so dollars nowadays, and they have them for both PC and the PS2.

The original Silent Hill, however, good luck finding that! xD I had to put out fifty bucks for the game and order it off the net, because it's considered a collectors item now. But man, was it worth it! For a PS1 game the graphics aren't half bad, and the story's pretty good. The voice acting, though... well, that's never good in Silent Hill games. They always sound so wooden, like they're reading from cue cards.

Miss Cogs 09-08-2007 10:59 PM

I watched someone play most of the Silent Hill game, the first one, on Youtube. I loved watching it. Even had it on fullview. XD

Gotta thank Silent Hill for those awkward conversations.

HEH! Henery..." What the hell..." He's main line in the entire 4th one. That's all he would say really. He had no personality. But you still gotta love him.

Thank you for telling me, now I'm going to get the second one and the third and then a new playstation. Because the 4th one has a hard time playing sutscenes. ><

L'Oiseau Noir 09-08-2007 11:06 PM

Lmao. I got my Silent Hill 3 from the black-cats gaming torrent site! I'm so cheap....

Yeah, Henry was a very, very bland character. xD He kind of reminded me of Dr. William Birkin from Resident Evil 2. He had the scruffy hair and face, and looked all doped up on caffeine pills like he hadn't slept for days.

And no problem, glad I could help point you in the right direction. =)

Clockwork 09-08-2007 11:13 PM

Mmm, quite interesting games, those. Those are about the only types of media that'll scare me anymore - perhaps I've been too desensitized, but horror movies just don't do it. It's different if you're BEING a part of the story, if you determine the outcome and all the twisted nightmare fiends are coming for YOU. Adds a whole edge to horror ^^

It's kind of inspiring, actually. I'm making it a personal goal to make a horror genre video game that surpasses Silent Hill 2.

Miss Cogs 09-08-2007 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by L'Oiseau Noir
Lmao. I got my Silent Hill 3 from the black-cats gaming torrent site! I'm so cheap....

Yeah, Henry was a very, very bland character. xD He kind of reminded me of Dr. William Birkin from Resident Evil 2. He had the scruffy hair and face, and looked all doped up on caffeine pills like he hadn't slept for days.

And no problem, glad I could help point you in the right direction. =)


Of course he didn't sleep....he was too busy wacking dogs with a pipe and spying on his neighbor. XD

Miss Cogs 09-08-2007 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork
Mmm, quite interesting games, those. Those are about the only types of media that'll scare me anymore - perhaps I've been too desensitized, but horror movies just don't do it. It's different if you're BEING a part of the story, if you determine the outcome and all the twisted nightmare fiends are coming for YOU. Adds a whole edge to horror ^^

It's kind of inspiring, actually. I'm making it a personal goal to make a horror genre video game that surpasses Silent Hill 2.


And day I'm sure it'll be very big, Clockwork. I wonder what you would call.

How about, " The Horror Game That Surpasses Silent Hill 2 " Quite original I think.

L'Oiseau Noir 09-08-2007 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork
Mmm, quite interesting games, those. Those are about the only types of media that'll scare me anymore - perhaps I've been too desensitized, but horror movies just don't do it. It's different if you're BEING a part of the story, if you determine the outcome and all the twisted nightmare fiends are coming for YOU. Adds a whole edge to horror ^^

It's kind of inspiring, actually. I'm making it a personal goal to make a horror genre video game that surpasses Silent Hill 2.

Might be a bit hard to top Silent Hill, but I'm sure you could do it! =) I'd definitely play it. I'm such a survival horror junkie, that it's not even funny.

Another thing I liked about Silent Hill was the creativity of the monsters. They were all different and weird looking, but it was in a good way. xD Especially the Abstract Daddy, the monster Angela saw--that one freaked me out a bit.

Oh yeah, and the whole "Pyramid-Head-Screwing-Mannequin" thing.

Funny, actually--the guy who's behind the monster design, my friend Charlie told me he was literally schizophrenic and suffered from severe paranoia. I guess we all know how he comes up with the monsters now... he probably sits in the dark and imagines hearing and seeing things, then writes/draws them down. xD

L'Oiseau Noir 09-08-2007 11:22 PM

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Of course he didn't sleep....he was too busy wacking dogs with a pipe and spying on his neighbor. XD

So, so true... don't forget, he was also dodging a crazy-ass-chainsaw-toting serial killer, who was also a ghost or something. Weird how Walter developed powers like Alessa Gillespie.

Yeah, now I can see why poor Henry doped himself up on caffeine pills. xD

Clockwork 09-08-2007 11:25 PM

Interesting, but I thought the monsters were based off of metaphor? For example, the abstract daddy representing his guilt for killing Mary...

Hm, regardless, it has a unique and stylized looks, and even inspired a monster to haunt me in a nightmare once x_x

Miss Cogs 09-08-2007 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by L'Oiseau Noir
Might be a bit hard to top Silent Hill, but I'm sure you could do it! =) I'd definitely play it. I'm such a survival horror junkie, that it's not even funny.

Another thing I liked about Silent Hill was the creativity of the monsters. They were all different and weird looking, but it was in a good way. xD Especially the Abstract Daddy, the monster Angela saw--that one freaked me out a bit.

Oh yeah, and the whole "Pyramid-Head-Screwing-Mannequin" thing.

Funny, actually--the guy who's behind the monster design, my friend Charlie told me he was literally schizophrenic and suffered from severe paranoia. I guess we all know how he comes up with the monsters now... he probably sits in the dark and imagines hearing and seeing things, then writes/draws them down. xD


Aww, I love the moster creator guy. Doesn't " Abstract Daddy " look like he's glued to a door or something.

One thing I also loved about the monsters was that they had a very deep background to go with them.

Miss Cogs 09-08-2007 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork
Interesting, but I thought the monsters were based off of metaphor? For example, the abstract daddy representing his guilt for killing Mary...

Hm, regardless, it has a unique and stylized looks, and even inspired a monster to haunt me in a nightmare once x_x


They do have metaphors. Every single monster.

L'Oiseau Noir 09-08-2007 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork
Interesting, but I thought the monsters were based off of metaphor? For example, the abstract daddy representing his guilt for killing Mary...

Hm, regardless, it has a unique and stylized looks, and even inspired a monster to haunt me in a nightmare once x_x


Yeah, the monsters are all based off of metaphors pertaining to that characters perception of their "Silent Hill reality." Like, for example, James saw Pyramid Head as he did because of the pictures he'd seen of the old Order executioners.

And the Abstract Daddy wasn't a monster created by James' mind I think. I believe it was the manifestation of Angela Orosco's fear of her father. But I could be wrong.

But yeah, I was talking about how the guy "brought to life" those metaphors. He made them look so twisted--it was great. xD

L'Oiseau Noir 09-08-2007 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Cogs
Aww, I love the moster creator guy. Doesn't " Abstract Daddy " look like he's glued to a door or something.

One thing I also loved about the monsters was that they had a very deep background to go with them.

Yeah, the Abstract Daddy kinda looked like a fleshy dinner table. xDD

And yeah, I love how they gave each of the monsters a distinct meaning/background.

Miss Cogs 09-08-2007 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by L'Oiseau Noir
Yeah, the monsters are all based off of metaphors pertaining to that characters perception of their "Silent Hill reality." Like, for example, James saw Pyramid Head as he did because of the pictures he'd seen of the old Order executioners.

And the Abstract Daddy wasn't a monster created by James' mind I think. I believe it was the manifestation of Angela Orosco's fear of her father. But I could be wrong.

But yeah, I was talking about how the guy "brought to life" those metaphors. He made them look so twisted--it was great. xD

Nope, your right. The Daddy moster was created by Angela.

L'Oiseau Noir 09-08-2007 11:53 PM

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Nope, your right. The Daddy moster was created by Angela.

Thought so! Since Angela's father molested her, it only seemed to fit.

I still can't get over Eddie's "Silent Hill Reality." Apparently all he saw was people laughing at him. Psh, I get it all the time and you don't see me shooting dogs and some guy in the knee (a bit of Eddie's background, if you didn't know). xD

Miss Cogs 09-09-2007 12:10 AM

Of course I knew. Though I haven't played the games, I still look around on the internet. ^^

Prehaps Eddie, was a little more insane then you are and that is why he did what he did.

L'Oiseau Noir 09-09-2007 12:15 AM

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Of course I knew. Though I haven't played the games, I still look around on the internet. ^^

Prehaps Eddie, was a little more insane then you are and that is why he did what he did.

Undoubtedly Eddie was one of the craziest Silent Hill characters. xD

Dahlia Gillespie was pretty bad, too, though. Her one line: "IT WAS FORETOLD BY GYROMANCY," still makes me laugh my ass off even to this day. She says it so dramatically. xD

Miss Cogs 09-09-2007 12:22 AM

I really like her character in the movie. Just the way she looked. She was pretty even though she was unkept and insane looking.

L'Oiseau Noir 09-09-2007 12:32 AM

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I really like her character in the movie. Just the way she looked. She was pretty even though she was unkept and insane looking.

I kind of found her movie version amusing. She was good and everything, but it was funny how she looked NOTHING like the Dahlia from the game. xD

In Silent Hill, Dahlia looked like a leathery-skinned skeleton. She had a lank jaw and these wild eyes, and she sounded kind of like "Mom" from Futurama. Lmfao.

Miss Cogs 09-10-2007 06:38 PM

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I kind of found her movie version amusing. She was good and everything, but it was funny how she looked NOTHING like the Dahlia from the game. xD

In Silent Hill, Dahlia looked like a leathery-skinned skeleton. She had a lank jaw and these wild eyes, and she sounded kind of like "Mom" from Futurama. Lmfao.

Oh, I know. Hah! So wore a tie for absolutly no reason as well. o.O Silent Hill selling drugs....oooo....that might be why Alessa was halluctionating those monsters. Actaully, I bet that's what happened. Everyone was on drugs. There was no monsters or anything. Just a bunch of people running from nothing and that guy shooting at air with his hands.

L'Oiseau Noir 09-10-2007 06:54 PM

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Oh, I know. Hah! So wore a tie for absolutly no reason as well. o.O Silent Hill selling drugs....oooo....that might be why Alessa was halluctionating those monsters. Actaully, I bet that's what happened. Everyone was on drugs. There was no monsters or anything. Just a bunch of people running from nothing and that guy shooting at air with his hands.

Basically that's what happened. They kept Alessa in a constant state of torment so they could lure Cheryl to them. They gave her hallucinogenic drugs too, which is probably where the monsters came from.

In short, everybody in Silent Hill is a drug addict. xD

Miss Cogs 09-10-2007 06:57 PM

Gahaha! Yep. I want to see a version of the game where it shows the town in a veiw of a sober person. It would be so funny seeing some pixelated guy trying to shoot something with nothing in his hand and on the ground wimpering because he thinks he got bit from a dog.

L'Oiseau Noir 09-10-2007 06:58 PM

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Gahaha! Yep. I want to see a version of the game where it shows the town in a veiw of a sober person. It would be so funny seeing some pixelated guy trying to shoot something with nothing in his hand and on the ground wimpering because he thinks he got bit from a dog.

Lmfao... or they should get some guy whose tripping on Acid to go into Silent Hill. Everything would be rainbow. xD

Miss Cogs 09-10-2007 07:04 PM

*dies from laughter*. Everyone would be talking like these unicorns from this video. XD

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JPONTneuaF4

L'Oiseau Noir 09-10-2007 07:09 PM

DUDE, it's CHARLIE! xD

I love this flash... but yeah--Charlie would be Kauffman, the blue Unicorn would be Alessa, and Dahlia would be the pink unicorn.

It's pure brilliance, I say!

Even more so, considering they say "shunnnn the non-believer, shunnnnnnn, shhhhhuuunnnnnnn."

Saddiction 09-10-2007 07:19 PM

I rather enjoyed playing the first game on playstation. I tried to play Silent Hill 2 on Xbox and gave up because the controls were all screwy (I don't play video games that often).

L'Oiseau Noir 09-10-2007 07:20 PM

You can actually get 2-4 for the PC on Konami's homepage. They're only $20 dollars nowadays. Or you can do what I did and download a torrent. xD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdLDby67TE0

Just thought I'd share this amusing SH2 parody.

Tenrai Hogosha 09-10-2007 07:55 PM

Silent Hill 3 on the PS2 was my all time favorite. I felt that they spent the most money on that one to produce.

L'Oiseau Noir 09-10-2007 07:57 PM

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Silent Hill 3 on the PS2 was my all time favorite. I felt that they spent the most money on that one to produce.

Matter of fact, I believe they did. I loved how Alessa (in her Heather incarnation) was the main character. Alessa's always been my favorite character--I'd like to see more games in the series with her in it. Luckily, she's confirmed to appear in Silent Hill: Origins, which I'm very excited for.

Miss Cogs 09-10-2007 08:33 PM

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Matter of fact, I believe they did. I loved how Alessa (in her Heather incarnation) was the main character. Alessa's always been my favorite character--I'd like to see more games in the series with her in it. Luckily, she's confirmed to appear in Silent Hill: Origins, which I'm very excited for.

The man your playing in that game looks like a redneck. =/ I don't know if I want to be playing a redneck!

L'Oiseau Noir 09-10-2007 08:56 PM

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The man your playing in that game looks like a redneck. =/ I don't know if I want to be playing a redneck!

Redneck or not, I want to play Origins mainly because it expands on the town's background, as well as Alessa, Dahlia's, Lisa's, and so on. I read that in Origins, the guy rescues Alessa from the house fire--an interesting idea I would say, since it gives Alessa someone she can like, as she did with Lisa.

It just sounds really intriguing. It's already confirmed Dahlia, Alessa, Kauffman, and Lisa are in it--I forgot if there were any more, but I'll be sure to look into it and post details. =)

Miss Cogs 09-10-2007 09:17 PM

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Redneck or not, I want to play Origins mainly because it expands on the town's background, as well as Alessa, Dahlia's, Lisa's, and so on. I read that in Origins, the guy rescues Alessa from the house fire--an interesting idea I would say, since it gives Alessa someone she can like, as she did with Lisa.

It just sounds really intriguing. It's already confirmed Dahlia, Alessa, Kauffman, and Lisa are in it--I forgot if there were any more, but I'll be sure to look into it and post details. =)

I suppose your right. I guess the only down part about Orgins would be that your playing a redneck guy then.

L'Oiseau Noir 09-10-2007 09:19 PM

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I suppose your right. I guess the only down part about Orgins would be that your playing a redneck guy then.

Trust me, I understand your pain. xD

But oh well--it's a worthwhile sacrifice if you're given the chance to look into Silent Hill's rather obscure background. Not too mention being able to explore the characters even further.

Rae Ven Rae 09-10-2007 11:54 PM

I liked Silent Hill's THE ROOM, but preferred God of War...

L'Oiseau Noir 09-11-2007 05:37 AM

The Room was all right, but to me it didn't feel too much like a Silent Hill game (probably because it wasn't really intended to be one). Three was the best out of the series in my opinion, alongside the original. Two was a bit mediocre, but good--and yes, I like God of War as well.

Miss Cogs 09-11-2007 05:26 PM

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I liked Silent Hill's THE ROOM, but preferred God of War...

God of War was good, but we are not talking about GOW, we are talking about Silent Hill.

Anyone up for those pink bunnies. In THE ROOM, if you look outside the window after hours of playing the game, you can see a pink bunnies head floating around outside.

L'Oiseau Noir 09-11-2007 05:35 PM

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God of War was good, but we are not talking about GOW, we are talking about Silent Hill.

Anyone up for those pink bunnies. In THE ROOM, if you look outside the window after hours of playing the game, you can see a pink bunnies head floating around outside.

That reminds me--if you keep peering through the hole in search of dear Eileen, Robbie the Rabbit's head will turn and face you, and he'll be pointing too. It didn't really make me jump, but it did kind of creep me out--I got over it pretty quick, though.

Miss Cogs 09-11-2007 06:18 PM

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That reminds me--if you keep peering through the hole in search of dear Eileen, Robbie the Rabbit's head will turn and face you, and he'll be pointing too. It didn't really make me jump, but it did kind of creep me out--I got over it pretty quick, though.

God..made me jump. I remember that very well. o.O I think in Japan they ahve a special silent Hill game that is just the bunnies. I'm not sure, I saw it on G4, it was just a bunch of bunnies and under the title caption it said, "Japan only"

L'Oiseau Noir 09-11-2007 08:19 PM

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God..made me jump. I remember that very well. o.O I think in Japan they ahve a special silent Hill game that is just the bunnies. I'm not sure, I saw it on G4, it was just a bunch of bunnies and under the title caption it said, "Japan only"

I wish Robbie made more of an appearance! He's so cute! I actually have a plushie of him I purchased from Konami... I sleep with it every night. <3

And I think I know what you're talking about, though I forget its name.

Miss Cogs 09-11-2007 08:33 PM

Me too, I'm actually going to find more on it.

Actually here is the video I saw on T.V. It has your Robbie in it.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wdaSeHaWHrs

I just need to figure out the name now....>.>

Miss Cogs 09-11-2007 08:36 PM

I figured out what it is, it is " Silent Hill: Lost Memories " But I don't think it's a game. I think it might be a movie that was only released in Japan that has different little movies like ; Robbie the Rabit and that Pyramid Head ****** the monsters and that girl videos.

L'Oiseau Noir 09-11-2007 08:37 PM

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Me too, I'm actually going to find more on it.

Actually here is the video I saw on T.V. It has your Robbie in it.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wdaSeHaWHrs

I just need to figure out the name now....>.>

I say we demand Konami make a Silent Hill game where you control Robbie Rabbit! Grrr, I've always wondered what the person in the suit was like! D:

Metabolik 09-14-2007 02:46 PM

Silent Hill gives me nightmares...:'( I need a hug.

L'Oiseau Noir 09-14-2007 03:40 PM

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Silent Hill gives me nightmares...:'( I need a hug.

Okay! Here's an e-hug for you, Meta! n_n *E-hug!*

There, better now? ^-^

And oh my goodness, I think I'm going to die from excitement! I saw the trailer and some screenshots for Silent Hill: Origins, and let me tell you, that is one FINE looking game.

Funerella 10-12-2007 11:36 PM

it was maybe the best thriller i saw last year in the cinemas (Maybe the "Descent" was a bit better, i don't know)

L'Oiseau Noir 10-13-2007 03:03 PM

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it was maybe the best thriller i saw last year in the cinemas (Maybe the "Descent" was a bit better, i don't know)


If you enjoyed the film, I highly recommend you give the games a shot. They're better by a long run, though that isn't to say the movie was bad either. Plus, you can get all the games for twenty or less dollars nowadays, for both the computer and PS2. Trust me, you won't regret giving it a whirl... you may even become hopelessly addicted to it like me. xD

CptSternn 10-14-2007 01:54 AM

The fact they didn't stray too far from the game storyline is what made it so good. I mean, it was a classic anime style story - a bit confusing and quite a leap from reality, not that normal horror flicks don't involve some type of suspension of reality, the idea behind the little girl and her history is confusing to some extent - it's a non-linear storyline that is simply brilliant.

I loved the games and the film. I have yet to play the room though...

MaverickZero 10-14-2007 11:46 AM

The Silent Hills are very very well done, 1 and 3 are considered the best in the series, 2 and 4 are considered out there.

1,3 are connected, as well are 2 and 4. James Sunderland is the Ghost in Henry's room, he lived in that apartment before disappearing.

Now, 2-4 have STRONG sexual themes, most notably in 2, because James was sexually frustrated with his marriage. Because his wife was sick, and horribly deformed, he couldn't do anything but care for her. Also, the Pyramid Head can be seen in a few scenes ****** the leg mannequins. Maria, a variation of Mary, was throw in to be the Temptress, and further frustrate James by getting him to feel for her, then getting killed. In one of the endings if you choose her over his wife, then they leave Silent Hill together, however she starts to show signs of the sickness that caused him to smother his wife in the first place.

3, the female lead was being sexually tormented, I believe it alludes in a few parts that she was molested, ***** etc. I think she also find out that she was an illegitimate child, and that kind of sends her over the edge.

4, the lead male, Henry seems to have no emotion at all. That everything is just taken in stride. This is in stark contrast to James, which is a good idea, considering it's James' old apartment. The only feeling he had shown was to the first woman he saw, and who acted very provocative around him. He was to serve as witness to all the brutal murders of Walter, so he could be the final sacrifice. Walter chose him for this task because he is very disconnected with reality, and would have been the most logical choice, because most people would have more than likely taken their own lives. When he sees Eileen being brutally beaten, his lack of emotion confirms this. He is emotionally distant, as why he is a reporter, and it's this reason why he has been targeted by Walter.

There is one chance for redemption, that Walter gives to Henry however, the scene where Walter tells Henry about Eileen being the only person to have been nice to him, and giving him her doll. He then leaves the doll on the steps, to see if Henry has humanity, in picking the doll up it shows that Henry cares about Walter, and intends to return the doll, or if he leaves the doll, that Henry is truly disconnected and thus proving his preconceptions true.

The Robbie doll in the 4th game is a direct reference to the 2nd game, in the fact that it was the main characters favorite doll, and Eileens favorite doll.

The creepy scenes where it shows the previous victim pointing to the next victim is very ominous. When Braintree gets electrocuted in his own chair, a shadowy man can be seen from his apartment window pointing up towards Eileens apartment. Then after Eileens brutal beating, and after shes been rushed to the hospital, a quick peek through the peep hole shows the once slumped over Robbie doll, now staring squarely at you pointing.

That is the single most freakiest part of the silent hill series, I have ever experienced.


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