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Eeegor 10-18-2007 03:23 PM

30 Days of Night Vampires are Scary Predators
 
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What comes to mind when someone says “Vampire�?

Throughout the world there have been all sorts of undead that feed off the blood of the living. Most vampires are not some romantic version of the undead a la Brad Pitt, Frank Langella, Bela Lugosi or even Kate Beckinsale. Vampires have become docile and over-eroticized in the past twenty years with books from Anne Rice and Laurell K. Hamilton. Don’t get me wrong I love the humanization of the vampire and the sexual vampire has something because I think every single person deep down inside of them wishes they could give themselves to a lover forever. (Who could ever forget the 80’s The Hunger.) But in the last twenty years vampire movies, books and storylines have not grabbed me by the throat. (I know bad joke.) Classics like 1922’s Nosferatu where something that was not human was on the screen. Truly undead. Is there any hope for Hollywood’s version of the bloodsucking undead? I think there is and that hope comes in the form of a story that started as a comic book that came out in 2002 from IDW and the minds of Steve Niles and Ben Templesmith called 30 Days of Night.

Wish to know what it is to see vampires at their rawest form of true predator of the food chain? Then I suggest you pick up a copy of Steve Niles and Ben Templesmith’s 30 Days of Night. This award-nominated comic book/graphic novel not only captured the intensity of the undead as something not to be admired, but feared for what they are - killers of humans. Steve Niles is also one of the unique people in the comic/entertainment industry; he not only reinvented the horror genre of the old EC days before the comic codes ruined comics till the 1980's, but, literally bringing horror comics back from the dead. (Darn my bad jokes), Niles opened the minds of the public to the idea that vampires are not cute and lovable a la Anne Rice and Bram Stoker's. He proved that they are what they are Top Predatory beings. (Truly belonging to the night.) Like Neil Gaiman, Frank Miller and Alan Moore, he loves what he does and holds his storyline up for the world to see.

30 Days of Night is a story of what happens when a gang of vampires decide to go for a road trip to the one place they can truly enjoy. A small Alaskan village called Barrow, where it is truly night for long periods. And what do vampires do on a vacation? They eat like people when they go on a vacation or a cruise and with no fear of a diet. The anti-hero in this story is Sheriff Eben Olemaun and his Deputy/wife Stella. They are the last line of defense for the survivors of Barrow. The people are also just trying to survive on wits and survival instincts. The writing and the artwork in this comic/graphic novel is to be admired. Sort of water color pencil scratches that make you take note of how harsh the story really is. These vampires are filled with razor sharp teeth that not only pierce the skin but rip flesh from any portion of your body. As a reader you get the feeling of a watching an animal eating. No fine finesse of a dribble of blood from a fang. But an all out blood fest. Won’t tell you too much more except there is a subplot that links these new vampires to New Orleans. (A city infested by vampires?)

But since the inception of this book into our culture, it has even crossed the lines of entertainment. I am happy to say that 30 Days of Night is about to hit the big screen. With this movie being Directed by David Slade (Hard Candy) and produced by Sam Raimi (Evil Dead series and that Spiderman series), it should at least be a thrill ride. The movie Stars Josh Harnett as Sheriff Oleson (Notice the change of name here since I do not think Josh can pass for a native Inuit from Alaska.) I have to admit that, although I am also critical of his acting skills in his earlier films, there are a couple of movies that I truly liked Josh Hartnett in. In Sin City as The Hitman and in Lucky Number Slevin, he is coming into his own.

These are two items which will keep me happy until I see the movie. The interactive website and a little item called Fearnet on demand. The 30 Days of Night website will not only get you into the mood for this upcoming movie with downloads and an interactive game and bios of the director, actors and producers, but, as with all good movie webpages, it has great promotions and giveaways.

The interactive game on the website is something to play if you have the proper flash loaded on your computer. This game is about you being the sheriff and armed with only a shotgun you must kill as many of the new version vampires with the razor teeth as possible before they tear you apart. I have to admit over all I did okay with the game until they started assaulting me with seven vampires at a time. Remember if you play the game to always reload as soon as you can. Or you can become a bloody wet spot on the screen like I did.

Fearnet.com and Fearnet on Demand on your cable have something that will help you get prepared for 30 Days of Night. They have a short movie series called Blood Trails based on the New Orleans vampire hunter from 30 Days of Night I highly recommend this little series to get you ready for the movie. Not only did they perk my interest to the story line of the movie to come. But it answered some questions I had about the graphic novel.

I also am unhappy to admit it, but I will not be able to see the movie until Oct 19th like the rest of you. But I will be sending my review of it in as soon as I do.



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Lapin 10-18-2007 03:46 PM

I'm really interested in seeing this. I've gotten tired of the romantic, wangsting (a.k.a. Whining like a *****) vampire we've seen so much of.

I want to see them act like predators damn it!

spoon! 10-18-2007 06:55 PM

Yey, I'm seeing it Saturday!

StasisInDarkness 10-22-2007 12:25 AM

This is an excellent film, in my opinion, and one of the few I've seen as of late that actually mastered the art of suspense, rather than copping out with cheap horror techniques.

The portrayal of vampires is both fresh and terrifying...I liked it very much indeed...

spoon! 10-22-2007 03:47 AM

There is definitely something feral about the way the vampires are portrayed in 30 Days. These aren't romantic Anne Rice or relatives of Bela Lugosi characters we're seeing. This was a whole new level of terror and cunning.

I do liken them to wolves in a major way. They travel in packs, move through the darkness with scary quickness, and even have a set of rules when one of their own is injured. It's almost as though Steve Niles had written about werewolves than vampires.

silverbaal 10-22-2007 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Lapin
I'm really interested in seeing this. I've gotten tired of the romantic, wangsting (a.k.a. Whining like a *****) vampire we've seen so much of.

I want to see them act like predators damn it!

Couldn't have said it better myself.

††BlackRose†† 10-22-2007 02:26 PM

YAYYY a vampire movie that seems decent!!!!!!

Killer_Burrito 10-22-2007 03:54 PM

I want to see it but my friend said it was horrible...
FearNet made it look so awesome though..lol.
*ponders*

the-broken-harlequin 10-22-2007 04:58 PM

I Think Vampires have been overused.
They seem to have lost all of their originality.
I need some white trousers so can look like alex de large.

Lapin 10-22-2007 06:08 PM

Harley, out of my adoration for your snarky and annoying self, I forbid you to wear white trousers. You will look like a prat.

Graveyard.Crow 10-22-2007 06:41 PM

I'm planning to see it as soon as I can! I've been waiting for it to come out.

drewsilla 10-24-2007 02:44 AM

Saw it last night and was really impressed on their take on the vampire genre. It's been a long time since a decent, watchable vampire movie has been out. Who would think of setting a vamp movie in Alaska? Brilliant!! Highly suggest you all go see it, or at least download it on the computer!!

erotomaniac87 10-24-2007 11:43 AM

30 Days of Night was a total disappointment, at least for me. There are a few good gorish scenes that gore fans will seem to appreciate, but overall, not the great movie I hoped it would have been. The Alaskan scenery and dark ambiance of the movie was very nice, though, and the baraka-esque quality to the vampires was a nice touch, but this alone didn't save this movie from being what it is, yet another substanceless film. I don't know, I expected so much more from this movie, and it just completely failed to amuse me.

Graveyard.Crow 10-24-2007 04:42 PM

I liked it, though I'm not a big fan of vampires just being blood thirsty monsters, never the less it was refreshing. They were still kind of hot though, maybe I just have weird tastes.

erotomaniac87 10-24-2007 09:27 PM

Is it just me, or was there a vampire in the movie that looked awfully similar to Marilyn Manson (in his early years)?

Bete Noire 10-25-2007 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by spoon!
It's almost as though Steve Niles had written about werewolves than vampires.


In one of it's earliest forms the word for Vampire was the same for werewolf.:D

††BlackRose†† 10-25-2007 12:08 PM

So basically it isn't worth watching?

spoon! 10-25-2007 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ††BlackRose††
So basically it isn't worth watching?

If I had more than two hands, I'd enthusiastically give it as many thumbs up as I could.

Definitely worth whatever ticket prices are :D

silverbaal 10-26-2007 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Graveyard.Crow
I liked it, though I'm not a big fan of vampires just being blood thirsty monsters, never the less it was refreshing. They were still kind of hot though, maybe I just have weird tastes.

And I thought I had weird taste in men.

StasisInDarkness 10-26-2007 05:44 PM

No, I thought that one of them, the tall, dark one with the long-ish black hair, looked like my boyfriend...minus the whole blood-covered jaws bit...whom I found incredibly attractive.

KontanKarite 10-27-2007 02:32 PM

I haven't seen it. Nothing can redeem the vampire in my opinion. Underworld completely killed it.

gothicusmaximus 10-27-2007 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KontanKarite
I haven't seen it. Nothing can redeem the vampire in my opinion. Underworld completely killed it.

... so I guess Tomorrow Never Dies killed Bond and You've Got Mail killed Boy-Meets-Girl?
Everything's been done badly, with that philosophy it's a wonder you go see movies.

KontanKarite 10-27-2007 05:44 PM

I actually don't go to the movies that much. The last movie I saw in a theater was Pan's Labyrinth. It, was good.

MirrorMask wasn't in any theater close to me, so it makes one wonder about cinema.

Wormboy 10-29-2007 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by gothicusmaximus
... so I guess Tomorrow Never Dies killed Bond and You've Got Mail killed Boy-Meets-Girl?
Everything's been done badly, with that philosophy it's a wonder you go see movies.

I love how every post you reply to is greated with the same sort of tone and reaction that your face expresses in your avatar.

DnA 11-01-2007 11:23 AM

i think thats harsh i liked under world true vamps are suppost to be more predorty an stuff but still i liked the films an i wanna watch 40 days of nite my sis said it was to weird to get into tho

BleedBlack37 11-28-2007 10:19 PM

They are some ugly fuckers. I saw the trailer movie that was 30 minutes long.That was good but im not sure about the movie.

CyberTiger 11-29-2007 09:14 AM

The movie sucked. It might just as well have been a low budget film.

purple 12-01-2007 12:34 AM

could someone plz tell me where I can post about dreams in here...I've been having really strange dreams lately..thxs

LadyStardust 12-01-2007 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by purple
could someone plz tell me where I can post about dreams in here...I've been having really strange dreams lately..thxs


I would suggest the General board. However, have you answered the questions in the introduction thread? If not, that should be your first priority.

PastMidnight 04-29-2009 01:47 PM

Producers completely ignored the stereotypings; vampires are suppose to be attractive, very smart, not die from a electrical light (that makes them weak against humans who own a lightbulb) and they weren't even able to open up doors. Wow, just close the door to your house and you'll be safe. What a joke!

Malice In Wonderland 04-30-2009 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by PastMidnight (Post 535093)
Producers completely ignored the stereotypings; vampires are suppose to be attractive, very smart, not die from a electrical light (that makes them weak against humans who own a lightbulb) and they weren't even able to open up doors. Wow, just close the door to your house and you'll be safe. What a joke!

That was the point.

I guess you've never seen Bela Lugosi as Dracula.

PastMidnight 04-30-2009 05:05 PM

Wait, what do you mean that's the point? So the entire movie was suppose to be contradicting the general legends surrounding them? No, I haven't seen Bela Lugosi as Dracula.

Cyntrox 05-01-2009 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PastMidnight (Post 535093)
...not die from a electrical light (that makes them weak against humans who own a lightbulb)...

Actually, that was UV light.

On another note, I find this movie amusing, beucase where I live the sun doesn't go up for 2-3 months in the winter... =P

Heretic 05-14-2009 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PastMidnight (Post 535313)
Wait, what do you mean that's the point? So the entire movie was suppose to be contradicting the general legends surrounding them? No, I haven't seen Bela Lugosi as Dracula.

Oh, my goodness.

No offense, PastMidnight, but what we see of vampires these days is a tangent that began in the hypersexualized 70's and crystallized with the 1976 publication of the Anne Rice novel Interview with the Vampire. What we have seen since is a truly horrifying creature of legend reduced to the level of a cultural dildo.

What do I mean by this?

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vampires are suppose to be attractive, very smart, not die from a electrical light (that makes them weak against humans who own a lightbulb) and they weren't even able to open up doors. Wow, just close the door to your house and you'll be safe. What a joke!
If you knew and understood what vampires have always been, what authors like Bram Stoker and movies like Nosferastu illustrated, you would never have posted something like that. Vampires, up until the 70's, had always been walking corpses, predators feeding on the living. They slept in graves and dressed in rags. They were not sparkling Abercrombie & Fitch models living the high life and f*cking the living at every opportunity.

As for the door thing, again we go back to the pre-dildo legends. The sanctity of the home held power over vampires. They had to be invited into a home in order to enter it.

*rubs temples*

Malice in Wonderland was simply trying to help you avoid looking silly. For a unique look at Bram Stoker's Dracula, thy this blogged version of the book. If a movie is more your speed, a recent Swedish import, Let The right One In, is a much better representation of what vampires have always been.


- Heretic

Malice In Wonderland 05-15-2009 09:00 AM

Wow I forgot about this.
I think she left but thanks Heretic.


Not seen Bela Lugosi as Dracula...
On a goth forum...
Think she knows about vampire films...
[/angry muttering]

Heretic 05-15-2009 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Malice In Wonderland (Post 539357)
Wow I forgot about this.
I think she left but thanks Heretic.

*bows*

Anything I can do to support interesting conversation and promote educating the younger members on the roots of the subculture.

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Not seen Bela Lugosi as Dracula...
On a goth forum...
Think she knows about vampire films...
[/angry muttering]
Fortunately, ignorance is not the same as stupidity. It would be unfortunate if PastMidnight really has left the forum; I would love to have gotten her reaction to the films you and I have mentioned.

*looks at the topic of the thread*

Whoops; I suppose a comment about the topic at hand would be the proper thing to contribute.

I actually liked 30 Days of Night. I collected the graphic novel back when it was first published and was looking forward to the movie. Now, don't get me wrong; it wasn't great cinema. However, I thought they managed to capture much of the menace and inhuman characteristics of the vampires as they were presented in the comic. And, thankfully, they didn't sex them up. This is one of the very few movies I've seen in years in which the vampires were based on the creatures of legend, rather than trashy romance novels.

*glances over with disdain at several Laurell K. Hamilton novels still taking up valuable shelf space in my bookcases*

In my opinion, the biggest problem with the movie was the fact that the original story relied heavily on imagery to tell the tale. Without giving it the "300" or "Sin City" treatment, the producers of the movie were under pressure to beef up the story with dialog and cinematic atmosphere, something neither the writers not the director were apparently up to. In the end, the movie features plenty of visceral moments and genuine creepiness, but it never came together as a coherent whole.


- Heretic

Fae-wolf 05-17-2009 04:10 PM

I enjoyed the film very much. I loved how the vampires call human savages when they were the monsters

Still Jack 05-24-2009 01:33 AM

From Dusk 'til Dawn, best vampire movie ever.

Tam Li Hua 05-29-2009 08:43 AM

30 Days of Night could have been better...a LOT better. They had a good idea, but the carry-through just wasn't that great.

I've read Dracula [Yes, Bram Stoker's original novel], and it's intensely creepy and the -only- time I've felt that vampires were portrayed properly. I've seen a little of the Bela Lugosi movie, but have yet to watch the whole thing.

The newer Bram Stoker's Dracula was ridiculous; it was -really- hard for me to take it seriously. -_-;; [When Anthony Hopkins starts humping random objects, that pretty much ends a movie for me.]

TechnicolorNightmare 05-29-2009 08:58 AM

I'll post in this one because I'm a huge fan of movies, in particular the horror genre, and I saw this movie a while ago. All I can say is that I thought it was just terrible. Contrary to the user in this thread who called it "suspenseful", this is probably the most unsubtle movie I can remember seeing and easily one of the least scary films I have ever seen, and I've seen at least 600 horror movies to judge.

The supposed "scares" in the film revolve around never-ending scenes of vampires opening their mouths, showing their teeth, and making really annoying noises. I don't find that scary, and even if I did somehow find those lazy attempts at scares slightly frightening, there still needs to be more. These scenes are usually followed by, of course, some gratuitous violence as well which doesn't help things too much. There was not a single scene in the movie which managed to scare me on even one level and after only fifteen minutes I wanted to turn it off.

Vampire films admittedly aren't my favourite horror sub-genre, but they can be great; eg. "Nosferatu, eine Symphonie des Grauens" is a masterpiece and the more recent "Interview With the Vampire" was terrific.

Pineapple_Juice 06-08-2009 04:57 PM

I dunno. Maybe I'm uncultured. I thought Nosferatu sucked hardcore.

Malice In Wonderland 06-10-2009 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TechnicolorNightmare (Post 541728)
I'll post in this one because I'm a huge fan of movies, in particular the horror genre, and I saw this movie a while ago. All I can say is that I thought it was just terrible. Contrary to the user in this thread who called it "suspenseful", this is probably the most unsubtle movie I can remember seeing and easily one of the least scary films I have ever seen, and I've seen at least 600 horror movies to judge.

The supposed "scares" in the film revolve around never-ending scenes of vampires opening their mouths, showing their teeth, and making really annoying noises. I don't find that scary, and even if I did somehow find those lazy attempts at scares slightly frightening, there still needs to be more. These scenes are usually followed by, of course, some gratuitous violence as well which doesn't help things too much. There was not a single scene in the movie which managed to scare me on even one level and after only fifteen minutes I wanted to turn it off.

Vampire films admittedly aren't my favourite horror sub-genre, but they can be great; eg. "Nosferatu, eine Symphonie des Grauens" is a masterpiece and the more recent "Interview With the Vampire" was terrific.

Vampire films aren't necessarily horror...
It's kind of like complaining that Blade wasn't scary.

SiouxsiePernova 06-10-2009 08:32 AM

"Nosferatu" and "Interview with the Vampire" are most definitely not of the same calibre.

Solumina 06-10-2009 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pineapple_Juice (Post 542803)
I dunno. Maybe I'm uncultured. I thought Nosferatu sucked hardcore.

A lot of people seem to agree with you but I think that is mostly due to how old it is, the style of acting is quite different than what we are used to today and the special effects are pretty basic so it is pretty hard to get into but it isn't so campy that it is funny so you don't get that joy that comes with watching really bad horror movies.

Malice In Wonderland 06-10-2009 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SiouxsiePernova (Post 542933)
"Nosferatu" and "Interview with the Vampire" are most definitely not of the same calibre.

Thank you.

Pineapple_Juice 06-12-2009 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Solumina (Post 542940)
A lot of people seem to agree with you but I think that is mostly due to how old it is, the style of acting is quite different than what we are used to today and the special effects are pretty basic so it is pretty hard to get into but it isn't so campy that it is funny so you don't get that joy that comes with watching really bad horror movies.

Quite right. I can laugh at Black Sheep type horror movies, but the thing about Nosferatu was that I had such high expectations and I was bored the whole way through, wishing it was over. Lame lame lame.
I admit that in its day I'm sure it was epic.

zerademark 09-10-2009 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Pineapple_Juice (Post 542803)
I dunno. Maybe I'm uncultured. I thought Nosferatu sucked hardcore.

If I am correct, then isnt Nosferatu the movie that ripped off Dracula?

ShadowxMakerZ 09-11-2009 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pineapple_Juice (Post 543249)
I admit that in its day I'm sure it was epic.

Very true, compare the movies we watch this day coming in the 2000's to the 1950's+... to us it's like comparing an apple to a tomato that are two different things in an different category.

One thing would be that most this day would consider those films before 2,000 to be cheap acting, too fake and crap. Reminds me of when my dad used to tell me how he used to wait for an hour special of some cowboy show in Europe that was subbed once a week, black and white. Still loves them to this day.

Ophelia's Snorkel 09-11-2009 09:12 AM

Nosferatu is a beautiful example of art of its kind. Not as good as Caligari, but certainly as culturally valuable. Plus, I'll take primitive cinematography and unconvincing effects any day over the completely toothless vampires held up for us now.

30 Days of Night...well, at least they were monsters. Not the kind of vampires I really like, but better than the sparkly ones that take you to the prom.

vindicatedxjin 09-11-2009 09:20 AM

I absolutely adored the cabinet of dr. caligari!


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