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Rorschach Twin 12-23-2007 05:27 PM

Sweeney Todd
 
Holy Jesus. It was great.

I think it's honestly my favorite Tim Burton film.

badteccy 12-23-2007 06:10 PM

I'll probably see it, but Tim Burton movies are all the same.
I guess I'm too old for the "quirky and creepy Hot Topic preteen audience" movies.
I'm just too old for anything.

Beneath the Shadows 12-23-2007 06:12 PM

I'd like to see it sometime. But I'd rather see National Treasure, first. And I Am Legend.

badteccy 12-23-2007 07:35 PM

I wanna see Juno. I was gonna see it Friday but the theatre was closed.

Breathless Horror 12-23-2007 07:49 PM

I can't wait to see Sweeney Todd! I'm probably going on friday. Can't. Wait.

lostintranslation 12-23-2007 08:03 PM

badtecy-I want to see Juno too!! It looks great!

I thought Sweeney Todd was excellent! I want a painting of the final frame of the film! Absolutely gorgeous!

DepthsofSpace 12-23-2007 08:16 PM

I can't wait to see it, either. ^_^

It has everything I love in a film.

State ruining a man's life.

Man puts on new persona.

Comes back with blades and get's revenge (and has a great time doing it!)

ForgetThisLostLenore 12-23-2007 08:19 PM

I would love to see it, but apparently my theatre doesn't see it fit to show it here...

CountSixstring 12-23-2007 09:12 PM

Sweeney Todd was nice. A lot of familiar faces and some sweet scenes and pretty music. I recommend it.

Green.Lady 12-23-2007 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badteccy
I'll probably see it, but Tim Burton movies are all the same.
I guess I'm too old for the "quirky and creepy Hot Topic preteen audience" movies.
I'm just too old for anything.

...

Wow. I mean, I know that every mallxcore kid loves Burton these days, but the man is a magnificent artist.

I'm looking forward to seeing it.

Godslayer Jillian 12-23-2007 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badteccy
I'll probably see it, but Tim Burton movies are all the same.
I guess I'm too old for the "quirky and creepy Hot Topic preteen audience" movies.
I'm just too old for anything.

Tim Burton's movies are never the same. They have the same ambient to it, but so were Shakespeare's plays.
If you think they're all the same, I think you might not be looking at them past the 'quirky and creepy', just like all those Hot Topic preteens that pretend to be fans of Tim Burton you mentioned.

raggedyanne 12-23-2007 11:50 PM

I agree with Jillian. Each of Tim Burton's movies are unique and brilliantly artsy. I'm looking forward to seeing Sweeney Todd!

bleedingheart344 12-24-2007 01:21 AM

I'm probably going to see this movie soon. I've heard it was a brilliant film.

Zerachiel 12-24-2007 09:16 AM

I want to see it...But I'm probably going to go see AVP:R first...

Kanedawg 12-24-2007 10:25 AM

I want to check it out for sure, even though I too am too old and stuff. Yet I'm not really.

I saw Burton's remake of Planet of the Apes coming from miles away and never endured the displeasure, but my spider sense says that this latest will be better than anything he's done in awhile.

Steppenwolf 12-24-2007 12:26 PM

*dying of mad envy* stop it , you bastards I'm living on goddamm Germany , it's SO UNFAIR :-((( ...

Luthian 12-24-2007 12:27 PM

uhg... I absolutely hated the musical. Haven't seen Tim Burton's take on it, but I can't imagine it will be much less fruity... though I tend to like his direction. I wish he'd change it up a bit, though.

Green.Lady 12-24-2007 12:28 PM

I'm still not understanding the "too old" thing. Seriously, people.

lostintranslation 12-24-2007 12:35 PM

I truly hate all musicals, and I actually enjoyed this one. The romantic side of it was fruity, and the gore was all extremely fake, but it was enjoyable.

Kanedawg 12-24-2007 12:36 PM

You are right of course, Green Lady. Which is the point I guess. If you feel that you're too old than you are but if that makes no sense to you then you're not. I can go either way in a sense, but generally just am.

Green.Lady 12-24-2007 12:56 PM

Oh. Fair enough. I'll have to ponder that one.

Crying_Crimson_Tears 12-24-2007 01:14 PM

I want to go see it with my boyfriend this week.

It looks amazing.

I love Johnny Depp and Tim Burton.

††BlackRose†† 12-24-2007 02:41 PM

I want to go see this one as well. You can never go wrong when it's Tim Burton and Johnny Depp.

Paigeybobert 12-24-2007 03:31 PM

I think it looks a bit stupid. I mean, seriously... Johnny Depp singing? What a joke!

clockworkcoffin 12-24-2007 04:59 PM

thanks to the combined suck of paramount and the local theatre chain, the film will not be playing in my city.

i'm gonna go cry now.

drewsilla 12-24-2007 06:14 PM

I think it will be interesting to see Johnny Depp singing. Tim Burton does some excellent movies. I've never seen one I didn't like. Hey, The Corpse Bride was a great one by him, too!! My son loves it

Beneath the Shadows 12-26-2007 01:56 AM

Well, I saw it a few hours ago. It wasn't bad, but I didn't think it was all it was cracked up to be. In my opinion, it seems as if it was quite unrefined, even more so that the subject matter and the characters themselves would allow for. All in all, I'm glad I didn't have to pay for it.

Sweeny Todd is the only movie I've ever seen anyone walk out on. Though then again, I've only seen two other movies that were so full.

lostintranslation 12-26-2007 09:50 AM

How many people walked out on Sweeney Todd? At what point during the film did they walk out? Where do you live?

Beneath the Shadows 12-26-2007 02:30 PM

It was a group of about dozen, about 45 minutes in.

What does where I live have anything to do with it?

Wormboy 12-26-2007 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Beneath the Shadows
I'd like to see it sometime. But I'd rather see National Treasure, first. And I Am Legend.

I've seen both I am Legend and Sweeney Todd, Sweeney Todd is much better.

Beneath the Shadows 12-26-2007 07:34 PM

Bit of a late response. I've already seen Sweeney Todd and National Treasure. I thought NT was better.

StasisInDarkness 12-26-2007 07:35 PM

I am a huge fan of the musical (Sondheim is a genius...) and I just came back from seeing the film.

I'd say Tim Burton remained pretty faithful to the original piece, and even that Johnny Depp was able to hold his own in terms of singing. As a fan of the musical, I was probably the most skeptical person going in to see it, prepared for Hollywood to ruin Broadway, as they so frequently do, but I was pleasantly surprised.

Helena Bonham Carter was a bit weak as Mrs. Lovett in terms of voice, but she looked absolutely stunning. I loved her corsets...mm.

And Johnny Depp, as is generally the case...splendid.

Kanedawg 12-26-2007 08:19 PM

Thank you for the input. I am interested in this movie and am not a huge fan of musicals over-all. One that I really liked was Jesus Christ Superstar.

CandyKorns 12-30-2007 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Green.Lady
...

Wow. I mean, I know that every mallxcore kid loves Burton these days, but the man is a magnificent artist.

I'm looking forward to seeing it.

I absolutely agree.

le_revenant 12-30-2007 11:01 PM

Meant to see it on opening day.
Finally saw it this past Saturday night.

Holy crap, it was wickedly awesome!!

I'm not a musicals kind of guy either (ironic, being a musician) but all the songs were catchy & didn't get in the way of the overall story. Still, I've got to confess that I did rather prefer the "A" story of Sweeney working on getting his revenge to the "B" story of his sailor friend trying to hook up with that girl. Hell, even the "C" story of Mrs. Lovett's crush on Sweeney had my interest even more than the "B" story.

Recommended it to a gothy girl friend of mind but she's a bit on the squeamish side when it comes to bloodwork, so my voice trailed off as I was recommending it b/c I suddenly remembered that fact.

Wormboy 12-31-2007 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Paigeybobert
I think it looks a bit stupid. I mean, seriously... Johnny Depp singing? What a joke!

Paigey, the one member on these boards who I've never seen post something that WASNT idiotic, you do know before becoming an actor Johnny Depp was a singer in a rock band right?

Wormboy 12-31-2007 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ††BlackRose††
I want to go see this one as well. You can never go wrong when it's Tim Burton and Johnny Depp.

Unless you happen to talk about Charlie and the Giant Floating Turd they called a movie

gothicusmaximus 12-31-2007 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Wormboy
Paigey, the one member on these boards who I've never seen post something that WASNT idiotic, you do know before becoming an actor Johnny Depp was a singer in a rock band right?

It's not an entirely stupid statement. As I said in the other thread about this movie, Sweeney Todd is an extremely challenging musical. That Johnny Depp sung in a failed rock band doesn't really inspire faith in his ability to tackle the lead role. Apparently he did a decent job though, so more power to him.

gothicusmaximus 12-31-2007 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
Tim Burton's movies are never the same. They have the same ambient to it, but so were Shakespeare's plays.
If you think they're all the same, I think you might not be looking at them past the 'quirky and creepy', just like all those Hot Topic preteens that pretend to be fans of Tim Burton you mentioned.

This director has been retreading the same thematic territory since Edward Scissorhands, straying from it even slightly only in Planet of the Apes (horrible), Big Fish (refreshing), and debatably, Mars Attacks (eehhh..). You can't deny that, especially not by making an analogue to Shakespeare which makes no sense provided that Shakespeare's plays were written for the stage centuries ago, and not only do we have no idea how they looked when initially performed, but since their conception they've been directed by millions of different people and have therefore taken on myriad different 'ambiences' to use the term you chose.
With the exception of his animated stuff and, in part, Scissorhands, Burton is a DIRECTOR, not a WRITER. He picks, or is given, certain scripts and chooses how to film them, and he always chooses to film them in the same way.

Lapin 12-31-2007 09:43 AM

I like Burton, regardless. The problem is, Burton and Depp are such good friends, I don't think he pushed Depp as hard as he should have in this movie. Depp was good, don't get me wrong, but I think he could have been better.

Carter stole the show, as far as I'm concerned. She caught my eye in every scene she was in, and her costumes were done well. The designer knew what they were doing, and put her in clothes that had good color and were shaped to her frame. She has a very soft, whispy voice, so her singing could have been better, but I liked her.

As for the very fake blood, done on purpose, I still covered my eyes. I'm too squeamish, even for that. Especially when he shoved her in the oven. It was just messed up.

BLEED REBELION!!! 12-31-2007 10:09 AM

I saw sweeny Todd. I thought the visual was good. But I felt like some of the writing could of been better. Like the scene where Sweeny Gets his knifes back, at the end of the song he's like "And now my arm is complete again" ANd I'm sitting there like WTF!!! Sweeny Todd a 6 on a scale of 1-10.. I hated the way it ended. They dont tell you what happens with the daughter. I was just so annoyed with the scene about the "worst pie in london" its like " my pies taste like shit YAY!!".
I think I am legend was better as a whole, People clapped at the end of it. But the best movie out right now is "The Great Debaters"
If your gonna go see a movie see that its well worth the money.

spoon! 12-31-2007 01:21 PM

My only problem with Sweeny Todd was the Harry Potter overtones from casting the very excellent Alan Rickman and the very sinister Timothy Spall as antagonists. Case in point: the moment Rickman said "Mr. Todd" in a very Snape like manner.

Rorschach Twin 12-31-2007 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoon!
My only problem with Sweeny Todd was the Harry Potter overtones from casting the very excellent Alan Rickman and the very sinister Timothy Spall as antagonists. Case in point: the moment Rickman said "Mr. Todd" in a very Snape like manner.

Can you really ridicule him for his voice? Or is it that you're just pointing out that you saw nothing really significantly wrong with the film?

Green.Lady 12-31-2007 03:07 PM

I loved the movie. :D

And Bleed Rebel [l] ion, you're criticizing the writing when you can't even spell your username?

spoon! 12-31-2007 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rorschach Twin
Can you really ridicule him for his voice? Or is it that you're just pointing out that you saw nothing really significantly wrong with the film?

Both. The other people in the theater burst out into laughter when he said that line, but otherwise I really liked the film. Since I had not seen the original stage play, I think Burton pulled off a great stage-to-screen adaptation on par with Grease and Hairspray.

Slap Your Love 12-31-2007 05:27 PM

I thought it was excellent.
I love musicals so that was a plus too. ^.^

Beneath the Shadows 12-31-2007 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoon!
My only problem with Sweeny Todd was the Harry Potter overtones from casting the very excellent Alan Rickman and the very sinister Timothy Spall as antagonists. Case in point: the moment Rickman said "Mr. Todd" in a very Snape like manner.

That's like saying that the movie had some Pirates of the Carribbean overtones because Johnny Depp used a very Jack Sparrow-like voice a number of times. And there was a sailing ship at the beginning.

Miss Cogs 12-31-2007 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StasisInDarkness
I am a huge fan of the musical (Sondheim is a genius...) and I just came back from seeing the film.

I'd say Tim Burton remained pretty faithful to the original piece, and even that Johnny Depp was able to hold his own in terms of singing. As a fan of the musical, I was probably the most skeptical person going in to see it, prepared for Hollywood to ruin Broadway, as they so frequently do, but I was pleasantly surprised.

Helena Bonham Carter was a bit weak as Mrs. Lovett in terms of voice, but she looked absolutely stunning. I loved her corsets...mm.

And Johnny Depp, as is generally the case...splendid.

These were my thoughts exactly. But I had my faith in Burton. I agree with you though with Carter protraying Lovett. I was really skeptical about her playing Lovett, but I do think that she a great job, even though her voice was a little bit weak in it. I did enjoy hearing Depp sign though.

Alexander IV 01-09-2008 09:05 PM

I enjoyed it.
and I hate to admit this but I am a fan of Musicals ( even the Anne one XD) But it was nice now i really want to see Juno:]

raggedyanne 01-09-2008 10:33 PM

I saw Sweeney Todd again! Loved it. Agree with Above comments about Helena. Stunning as always, but not the strongest singer. I too wish to see Juno, might drag boyfriend (evil chuckle ;D)


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