Age of consent laws
 

No, this is not a topic about changing the age of consent. If that's what you want to talk about, make your own topic. Plus you're probably a pervert. :p

It's my opinion that age of consent laws should work both ways. The way they are now, if someone has sex with someone beneath the age of consent, that person gets charged with statutory **** and the other person gets treated as a victim. The reasoning behind this is that someone beneath the age of consent is too young to give an informed consent. (Interesting, then, how different countries have different ages of consent.) But there are times when someone sleeps with a 14-year-old, gets charged with statutory ****, go to jail, and then several months later someone else will get charged with statutory **** and go to jail for having sex with the same 14-year-old.

Just because someone is beneath the age of consent does not mean that they're the ones being hit on. When I was younger, I knew a girl who was 13 who had basically sent several men to jail for having sex with her, even though she's the one who went after them. Now, I'm not saying that just because she went after them that their actions are excusable. But I am saying that she (and others like her) should not be treated as the victim when they clearly are not.

And what about people beneath the age of consent who have sex with someone else beneath the age of consent? If neither of them can legally consent, who's the victim?

As far as I'm concerned, people under the age of consent should be punished by the law for engaging in sexual activity as well. Unless they were forced, of course.

What do you think?

That indeed does make sense.

Because those kids who are under the age know the law too, and yet time after time they do it anyway. But I think that maybe if they are caught once doing it with someone older then they're the victim. Twice or more times though should be punished. I think it all depends on a circumstance.

Hell yeah. I heard this one girl was at this guys home with another chick, and she was under age, he was mid 20's or something. He also had some interest in her. Long story short, the girl who was with the girl in question left, the dude did it with the one who stayed after she consent to doing him, the other girl came back, saw them at it, called the police..... you know what the chick the dude was having sex with does? Tells the police that he held her down and r.a.p.e.d her... meh... the chick could've left anytime she wanted to... but didn't...

I think I can agree with that. But what you're implying, though very logical, is that these kids actually CAN give consent. If a girl that's 13 is smart enough to send several adults to jail, she's obviously mindful enough to give consent. But seriously, what would you charge them with? Statutory sex? Remember, what crime is committed if it's consensual?

Wait... you're a woman?

Shit, you caught that? I edited it out. I didn't feel like it actually applied that much to the conversation.

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Well, let's get back to the subject at hand, now.

The kid should be punished.

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Either the child gets punished, or they should reduce any sentance the person who "r.a.p.e.s" said "victim" receives.

Well, the laws basically say, "They can give consent... but it doesn't count."

Well if it doesn't count, then the law itself is already full of fail. Punishing the minor negates the law. So logically, it would be better to just lower the age of consent.

It is something to think about, because normally people aren't exposed to sex until an older age, nor do they have sexual desire until after puberty. Regardless of what she may think, her parents clearly don't want her sleeping with older men. Therefore, that should be good enough for anyone.

Maybe it wouldn't hurt to send her to an institution. At least she'd be out of the way for awhile, or sleep with her psychologist.

Even better, make her marry one of these guys and get her out of the house. That would be good too.

Frankly, the parents aren't paying that close of attention. She was probably victimized at one time. I saw pictures of people having sex when I was younger, didn't make me want to try it out.

Even though a victim, victims often become victimizers over time, so it is best to tell her that what she is doing is wrong. The only way to do that is with some kind of punishment. Otherwise, she'll grow up wondering why it is okay for the child to have sex, but not the adult. As the adult, she might think it's okay to have sex with children. It keeps the cycle going.

Yet children are out having sex all the time and it's supposed to be the parents responsibility to punish the kids. But they don't. They say, that bad person hurt you and give them attention. On the Dog Whisperer that's how the owners of the dogs always reinforce bad behavior.

Probably way back when they were a virgin they were a victim. Without any sexual compulsion, the adult would have had to coerce the child. The child is stupid and blindly loving. After that though, there is more going on, victim maybe stretching it too far. Maybe, still not gaining sexual pleasure, they are getting attention.

You know, Catch, every time I read one of your posts I have to check if someone stuck weed in my hot chocolate.

Ok, seriously. Most kids have/are entering puberty at 13. Do we want kids having sex at 13?

Most of society would say no. So "age of consent" laws are designed to protect young people from those who would exploit them sexually, and that used to be mostly older people.

However, one must question the rather arbitrary age of these laws. Personally, I think it should be 16, since I figure if you're old enough to drive a vehicle (weighing thousands of pounds with the potential to kill several others), I figure you're old enough to know the risks and so forth of sex.

Those are just my personal views.

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I think the consent laws are really fucked.
In maryland the age of Consent is 16 but the older person has to be within 4 years of your age. So if you're 16 the other person has to be 20 or under. If you're 17 they have to be 21 or under... etc.



Personally think the age of consent should be about 14. Really I think age is just a small part of it. Really other things are more important.

Just because someone hit puberty, they aren't ready to have sex yet.

That's why there isn't a big problem with people of similar ages being together. They go through making out, heavy petting and experiment.

It isn't an adult’s responsibility to teach teenagers how to have sex. In fact, all and all, it could be limiting. There is a whole lot going on without skipping steps. The adult is getting what they want and the teen is getting screwed.

Breaking up is always difficult to do, no matter when or why it happened. However, people are not inclined to believe people with a significant age difference have anything in common. Therefore, the adult wants sex and not fully disclosing their intentions and the adult should be better than that.

I've been legal for about 3 ish years now, but here is thing. By law I couldn't consent to sex with someone over 18 until I turned 14. What makes someone who is only lets say a year older than that any smarter than someone who is under 14.

Also, sometimes, in the odd occasion, the older person and the younger person just happen to be in love. In some cases it maybe that no one is being used, and the younger person really is mentally capable to make the right decision.

I had a talk with a councellor about this once. Apparently, your parents can still say the older person ***** you even if you are over 14. I asked him what a way around that would be, and he said I could sign a sexual consent form.
That would be a bit of a mood breaker.

It really seems like someone who is already sexually experienced would want to be with someone else with sexual experience.

Still adults should not have sex with young people at all. Without the law, who knows what would happen. The way I look at it, a younger person giving consent wouldn't turn in their lover anyway.

It is a way of avoiding prostitution and kids growing up too fast. Really, someone shouldn't be having sex for any other reason than to find marriage. Of course people make mistakes in life and can't clearly see if someone is the right one or not on sight but that is the bottom line.

There are too many diseases and the underdeveloped human body, cannot sustain sex. Sometimes it can be life threatening. Even in countries where people are getting married at age 12, if the woman is impregnated she could die or get a tear in the uteren wall causing her to have a gastly smell her whole life.

In Africa they have private tents for these women and no man ever touches her again. It is an aweful smell. Yet they don't change and still try getting all their young people married before they even hit puberty.

Because you see, people looking for sex partners are more inclined to wrap a young person if they think they already slept with someone already. As discussed previously.

I've known people that were married when they were 14 though. The husband was working and trying to graduate high school. The wife put off graduating to have their first born child and go to work. They both lived with their parents. Their parents agreed to let them marry at a young age.

No kidding. I hit puberty when I was ten. But I just wanted to play with my Ninja Turtles.

Good question!

Also, I don't understand how someone can be charged with **** and sent to jail, when an underage girl lies and says shes 18, or 19 etc. to someone who is 18+. Consenting adults don't normally ask to see someones ID right before they have sex. So how is the adult supposed to know? I don't think kids should be having sex anyway, and they should be punished for it, not coddled by their parents telling them "Awww, its ok honey, he ***** you. We understand now lets send the bastard to jail." Oh well...

Well, I have to agree with you about the parents thing. Many parents seem to have an attitude of "screw everyone else", which, when you are trying to raise people to live in a society of other humans, is rather counterproductive.

Of course 13 year olds are able to give consent when they are actually in love with someone. The problem is people just a little bit older then they have lots more life experience and it is rather easy for them to manipulate, use, and discard a naïve and trusting 13 year old. That is the purpose of the age of consent laws. A troubled 13 year old who feels the need to seduce people again and again is probably too fucking dumb to know better, and will hopefully one day regret their actions. The older person is supposed to know that is a troubled child and not have sex with them.

I think there should be a stipulation to age of consent laws. You both have to be 18 and above or within X amount of years apart in age. So like if it was three years, a fifteen year old and an 18 year old are fair game. Something that doesn't fuck people over. My girlfriend is 17, I'm 18. It's not legal. The age difference is SIX MONTHS. There's a flaw there somewhere. oh PoD, it's not really hard to manipulate people of any age.