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Godslayer Jillian 08-06-2009 02:01 PM

The Bible: Not conservative enough!
 
http://www.conservapedia.com/Bible_R...lation_Project

You will feel an interesting combination of entertainment and creepiness; like watching a David Lynch movie but less awesome.

My favorite parts are their emphasis on the inclusion of the word socialism, without knowing where or why to place it; changing false idols to media, their admission that not killing is a leftist absurdity, and their reluctance to keep the word liberal in the bible.

Renatus 08-06-2009 02:16 PM

Reminds me of this one story not too long ago I heard about this extremist sect who protested at the funerals of soldiers. They made a video where they sang about how "god hates everyone".

EDIT: FOUND IT!
http://www.phillyd.tv/?s=protest+soldier+

gothicusmaximus 08-06-2009 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian (Post 551155)
My favorite parts are their emphasis on the inclusion of the word socialism, without knowing where or why to place it;

Since they seem pretty reluctant to keep 'thou shalt not kill' in there, I figure they may as well drop it in favor of 'thou shalt not socialism'.

Saya 08-06-2009 02:25 PM

Argh. You know, there's twisting the Bible around to suit your argument, there's nitpicking certain obscure quotes to suit your argument, and then there's changing the Bible so it says what you want it to say.

DRM 08-06-2009 03:55 PM

Psh, freaking bible thumpers, nothing is ever conservative enough for them.

HumanePain 08-06-2009 08:15 PM

Interesting that they want to change rich to idle miser, so that industrious rich are ok. Like some of the pastors today that have private jet aircraft and several mansions and fat bank accounts, and that they also want to change "shall not kill" to "shall not unjustifiably kill".

I don't think I like where this is going. Thanks for the link Jillian. It will take me a little while to digest this information, this translation effort is news to me.

Corpsey 08-06-2009 09:41 PM

Everyone construes various passages from the bible and uses them to justify their own means.

Like Jesus being in union with God = Trinity when further along in the scriptural chapter it says that Jesus will also be in union with his disciples.

Didn't the Catholic church recently change the seven deadly sins?

Saya 08-06-2009 09:51 PM

No, they didn't change them, just added more:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle3517050.ece

Renatus 08-07-2009 05:43 AM

Technecly the original deadly sins cover every sin due to how general they are, I think they merely did it because people fail to see what they are doing as part of those original 7 deadly sins. For example ruining the enviroment can fall under the sins of pride, sloth, and in the case of big corperations greed as well, but not everyone sees that.

Mark Anthony Quested 08-26-2009 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Renatus (Post 551157)
Reminds me of this one story not too long ago I heard about this extremist sect who protested at the funerals of soldiers. They made a video where they sang about how "god hates everyone".

EDIT: FOUND IT!
http://www.phillyd.tv/?s=protest+soldier+

The Phelps family / Westboro Baptist Church. Mad as f.....ornication, they are!!!

Beneath the Shadows 08-26-2009 02:49 PM

Why should the Bible be considered conservative at all? Once upon a time, it was the most liberal piece of literature on the face of the planet.

DepthsofSpace 08-26-2009 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Anthony Quested (Post 556778)
The Phelps family / Westboro Baptist Church. Mad as f.....ornication, they are!!!

The punk band my ex-GF use to front, had a song called Burn Westboro..

...loved that song..


Really, this is creepy, though. The Bible, too liberal? Well, I agree, it's radical and liberal... But that's what it's suppose to be.

Ophelia's Snorkel 08-26-2009 04:17 PM

If this further pushes the extreme, socially conservative, fundamentalist Christians out to the fringe (as I suspect it will), so much the better. Many moderate denominations already try to distance themselves from these kind of people. The less they are perceived as part of a large and socially accepted religion, the fewer people will credit anything they say. Plus, they get to feel like religious martyrs in the bargain, so everybody's happy!

ubergoth666 08-27-2009 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renatus (Post 551157)
Reminds me of this one story not too long ago I heard about this extremist sect who protested at the funerals of soldiers. They made a video where they sang about how "god hates everyone".

EDIT: FOUND IT!
http://www.phillyd.tv/?s=protest+soldier+

The Westboro church just pisses me off. This song is really just the icing on the cake.

Anima_Severem 08-27-2009 09:45 PM

I do think the Bible ought to be retranslated from the source. The King James version is getting a lot of shit wrong.

i.e. in Exodus when it says "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" The original word in the place of "witch" meant "One who kills or harms another with poison." The translation into Latin happened to be a word that also meant "witch".

ubergoth666 08-28-2009 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Anima_Severem (Post 557236)
I do think the Bible ought to be retranslated from the source. The King James version is getting a lot of shit wrong.

i.e. in Exodus when it says "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" The original word in the place of "witch" meant "One who kills or harms another with poison." The translation into Latin happened to be a word that also meant "witch".

King James did make the translators change things. But most translations use the greek text as the base.

Tam Li Hua 08-28-2009 06:56 AM

Wow. Those folks are incredibly creepy. x_x;;;; ["Conservapedia"? Really?]

Drake Dun 08-28-2009 11:24 PM

Lol. "God Hates the World." It started with just gays, but then it had to move to gay "enablers", and then fence sitters, finally to all of America... oh, and Sweden. And now it's the whole world. The trend is clear, but where can they really go from here?

It makes me sad to think that the good people at Westboro Baptist might be in danger of running out of new ways to entertain us.

:(

Drake Dun 08-28-2009 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Beneath the Shadows (Post 556782)
Why should the Bible be considered conservative at all? Once upon a time, it was the most liberal piece of literature on the face of the planet.

Once upon a time, the astrolabe was the pinnacle of navigation technology.

Beneath the Shadows 08-30-2009 11:56 AM

The Bible went from being liberal to being (considered) conservative. Astrolabes are still astrolabes.

Alan 08-30-2009 12:20 PM

Astrolabes went from being indispensable to being obsolete. The Bible is still the Bible.

Terminus 08-30-2009 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Drake Dun (Post 557658)
The trend is clear, but where can they really go from here?

God hates Martians.

Ophelia's Snorkel 08-30-2009 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Terminus (Post 558137)
God hates Martians.

Haha, nice : )

head in a wicker basket 08-30-2009 09:26 PM

"shivers in basket" Religious zealots scare me.

Drake Dun 08-31-2009 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Terminus (Post 558137)
God hates Martians.

Score, lol. Really though, they can't be too many iterations away from "God Hates Everything." Presumably they'll stop short of "God hates God".

In re the Bible being a "liberal" book, I wish I could agree. Unfortunately, I have made the mistake of actually reading it, and sadly lack the capacity for jawdropping feats of mindbending that allows moderate Christians to read the King James English version of "kill the dirty fags" and take away from it "don't judge".

Although in fairness, the Bible actually *does* say not to judge, in its better moods. And includes some genuinely radical, even beautiful thinking. It's not like it was all written by one guy, after all.

The problem is that by and large, Christians are still humping this fantasy that the Bible is the One Monolithic Inerrant Truth that Came from the Magic Man. So it's near impossible to have an honest conversation about its content. They can't simply say about something in the Bible, "This part is crap. We're throwing it out."


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