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Saya 09-17-2010 08:58 PM

Atheists Should Apologize!
 
For Hitler, according to the Catholic League:

Quote:

Catholic League president Bill Donohue reacts to the way British atheists are handling Pope Benedict XVI's trip to their homeland:

The pope cited Hitler today, asking everyone to "reflect on the sobering lessons of atheist extremism of the 20th century." Immediately, the British Humanist Association got its back up, accusing the pope of "a terrible libel against those who do not believe in God."

The pope did not go far enough. Radical atheists like the British Humanist Association should apologize for Hitler. But they should not stop there. They also need to issue an apology for the 67 million innocent men, women and children murdered under Stalin, and the 77 million innocent Chinese killed by Mao. Hitler, Stalin and Mao were all driven by a radical atheism, a militant and fundamentally dogmatic brand of secular extremism. It was this anti-religious impulse that allowed them to become mass murderers. By contrast, a grand total of 1,394 were killed during the 250 years of the Inquisition, most all of whom were murdered by secular authorities.

Why should atheists today apologize for the crimes of others? At one level, it makes no sense: apologies should only be given by the guilty. But on the other hand, since the fanatically anti-Catholic secularists in Britain, and elsewhere, demand that the pope—who is entirely innocent of any misconduct—apologize for the sins of others, let the atheists take some of their own medicine and start apologizing for all the crimes committed in their name. It might prove alembic.
http://www.catholicleague.org/release.php?id=1978

Yes, Hitler, an atheist! That guy who used it to antagonize the Communists! And that atheist guy Stalin who defeated him while the Vatican sat by and did nothing....uuuuuh....And the thousands of Catholic Germans who helped...uuum...And the Pope who was helping out with Hitler Youth....eeerrrr...

I don't see how they can spin this in their favor.

Hydrodyssodia 09-17-2010 09:19 PM

Well, everyone knows that murdering people for religious reasons is better than mudering people for politcal reasons and not being religious.

Ben Lahnger 09-17-2010 10:45 PM

Not to mention, aren't they still working on getting around to apologizing for all the priests rraping children and the church not doing anything about it? Or is this a poorly veiled and even more poorly constructed attempt to distract everyone from that?

Saya 09-17-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben Lahnger (Post 637138)
Not to mention, aren't they still working on getting around to apologizing for all the priests rraping children and the church not doing anything about it? Or is this a poorly veiled and even more poorly constructed attempt to distract everyone from that?

Wait for their "homosexuals should apologize for the child molestations by priests." press statement.

Tumor 09-17-2010 11:02 PM

Let me make sure that I have this straight. The Catholic League believes, since some people wants the Pope to apologize for the actions of some Christians, that atheists should also apologize for some Christians. And for people who have killed in the name of communism, as well.

So... is this a joke without a punchline, or a punchline without a joke? I can't tell.

Ben Lahnger 09-17-2010 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Saya (Post 637140)
Wait for their "homosexuals should apologize for the child molestations by priests." press statement.

Saya, The Onion beat you to that joke.

Corpsey 09-18-2010 02:44 AM

This has to be some sort of sick moment where the Nazi Pope has an extremely forgetful moment. I'm certain that the Vatican withdrew all their support from the Catholic German Political party prior to the extreme rise of Hitler and gave it to his party, which included funding him and all the works.

Just wondering, did Catholic British soldiers turn a blind eye when they shot Catholic German/Italian soldiers or vice versa?

viscus 09-18-2010 04:44 AM

As an atheist I have to say that I'm sorry...that there are people who are that FUCKING STUPID in the world.

"Sins committed in the name of atheism"...just what is the "name of atheism?" People like the author of that editorial can't stop thinking of it as some sort of partisan fight between dogmas. I don't know why they can't get it through their thick skulls that atheism isn't a dogma or a philosophy, it's just the rejection of God.

Despanan 09-18-2010 09:55 AM

Well it IS the Catholic League. These are the same people who sent Kevin Smith death threats over Dogma.

KontanKarite 09-18-2010 04:41 PM

Honestly... That's fucking dumb. In fact, asking for a group of people to apologize for the actions of others is down right silly.

I see no reason for the Catholic CHURCH as a group of people, should apologize for anything. They should just apologize for anything they have done in their lives for now.

Basically, I'm not responsible for the actions of Mao or Stalin. Besides, those people didn't die because they rejected atheism, they died because of more political reasons.

People need to learn that Atheists don't really consider a lack of faith to be a theological or religious stance.

Sinjob 09-18-2010 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Despanan (Post 637154)
Well it IS the Catholic League. These are the same people who sent Kevin Smith death threats over Dogma.

And what a dogmatic move that was.

Apathy's_Child 09-19-2010 03:09 AM

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/i...-201009173095/

Ben Lahnger 09-19-2010 06:50 AM

There's no accounting for how papel will behave. It's as if they think they're infallible or something.

Still Jack 09-20-2010 12:17 AM

I'm not an atheist. I just kinda grew out of fairy stories...

ape descendant 09-23-2010 09:04 AM

Heh heh, Dawkins had something to say about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUpwJ...eature=related

OnyxBat 09-23-2010 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrodyssodia (Post 637132)
Well, everyone knows that murdering people for religious reasons is better than mudering people for politcal reasons and not being religious.

Ditto! Religions are overly R rated

viscus 09-23-2010 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ape descendant (Post 637577)
Heh heh, Dawkins had something to say about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUpwJ...eature=related

As incendiary as some people might find him, that guy really resonates with me.

Despanan 09-23-2010 11:41 PM

Quite simply, dawkins is a dick, but he's the dick we need right now.


I mean think about it, for 2000 years Christianity spread by the sword. A couple hundred years ago they would've just murdered Dawkins. Now is really the first age that they can't and these arguments need to be made.

viscus 09-24-2010 09:45 AM

He calls it like it is, that's for sure.

PortraitOfSanity 09-24-2010 11:27 AM

http://www.luft-squadron.org/SquadIn...IronCrossB.gif

Nazis. Clearly atheists....

ape descendant 09-24-2010 08:20 PM

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFi...44/1069962.jpg

You callz it like you see it Portrait. ;)

PortraitOfSanity 09-25-2010 10:44 AM

Yea, and then there's the fact that the SS was modeled after the Crusader orders, specifically the Teutonic Knights.


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