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Green.Lady 10-25-2007 10:25 PM

Stanley Kubrick's Clockwork Orange...
 
Do any of you share my love? Most people I know hate it :( but I think it's brilliant.

Godslayer Jillian 10-25-2007 10:32 PM

The book is better.

Green.Lady 10-25-2007 10:37 PM

I've also read it. The book and movie are very different image-wise, IMO. I like them for different reasons.

mfiend1138 10-26-2007 12:26 AM

I also prefer the book. However they are two different adaptations of a compelling tale, and the movie version is certainly a classic. Yes, I love them both. But you're correct, there are quite a few people who consider them both gratuitous. Some things need to be hammered into peoples minds before they get the message.

I remember something I saw scribbled on a whiteboard at the Media Lab at MIT: "Art is not a mirror. Art is a hammer."

Indeed.

-R.

Steppenwolf 10-26-2007 01:16 AM

That is a masterpiece , brother-sir ... Beethoven , and a lot of the old in-out-in-out ... I just saw I once , but it's unforgetable ...
The book is on my todo list , if I ever can find it ...

Who can hate it???

Rorschach Twin 10-26-2007 01:42 PM

It's one of the greatest movies, with a great political comment in it as well. Of course, that's from the book as well, but Kubrick is a great director. His version of The Shining is great, too.

NachtSorcier 10-26-2007 01:49 PM

I've only seen half of the movie. I like what it's about, but it's just too slow.

Miss Cogs 10-26-2007 01:50 PM

A movie that I want to see very much, though have not yet had the pleasure of viewing it. I've seen clips and such from it and what I do view I do enjoy.

Regardless, of the many reasons why people hate it, I think should be loved. Honestly, things that are protrayed in that movie are everyday things. As is sex an violence. **** is nothing different and because a movie has a **** scene in it does not mean it should be reverd. Of course, I am only including this paragraph here because this is the reason why my mother will not allow me to view the movie.

In time, I suppose. In time.

spoon! 10-26-2007 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green.Lady
Do any of you share my love? Most people I know hate it :( but I think it's brilliant.

Quite so, Sister. :D

I've long read the book, but it wasn't until July of this year that I finally saw the movie. My ex-girlfriend loves it, and suggested I watch it with her. Turns out I liked it more than I thought I would.

The great thing I find about the movie adaptation is how Kubrick loudly pronounced a lot of the scenes from the book. The OTT violence, Alex's own narcissistic qualities, and even the final 1/3 of the movie were done beautifully to me.

Whenever I hear "Singin' in the Rain" I can't help but do Alex's little dance.

Underwater Ophelia 10-26-2007 02:03 PM

I loved the book, but I fell asleep during the movie.

It bothered me a lot. I don't like to see people hurting other people; it makes me physically ill. I liked the book because the Nadsat did its purpose in distracting me from the violence.

silverbaal 10-26-2007 03:23 PM

It wasn't as good as I thought it was going to be. Especially the torture and all of the so-called "faint of heart" bits. But it's still a good movie.

I love the unusual mix of colors and shapes, espcially.

TopHaggardDoll 10-26-2007 08:33 PM

I love that film, it's pure genius. I really wanna watch it again.

I think I might read the book again too.

Green.Lady 10-26-2007 08:55 PM

Well, the violence, IMO, was necessary to show the dramatic change in Alex after he was brainwashed.

I'm glad some of you liked it. :)

Wormboy 10-26-2007 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Underwater Ophelia
I loved the book, but I fell asleep during the movie.

It bothered me a lot. I don't like to see people hurting other people; it makes me physically ill. I liked the book because the Nadsat did its purpose in distracting me from the violence.

I have a perfectly opposite opinion. I love the violence, I think it's brilliant and necessary. Plus, I get a small perverse thrill out of it ^_^

James Most Bizzare 11-04-2007 04:16 PM

I totally love that movie, especially the ultra-violence! Kubrick was a true film genius, everyone of his movies that I've seen is superb.

Haven't read the book yet, I'll get around to it eventually.

Rorschach Twin 11-04-2007 05:12 PM

The movie was actually just rereleased, along with The Shining and 2001: A Space Odyssey. I'd like to get it, mostly for the bonus features.

drewsilla 11-05-2007 02:48 AM

I think the movie was brilliant. The use of color and shapes was almost like it was its own character that had no lines, but had to be there. I love this movie, and think it would not work without the violence.

dead souls 11-07-2007 02:40 PM

i Vidded it again last nochy.:)
the book is only better because of the last chapter when alex finally grows up.
the end of the book is almost kinda tragic and sad.
the old veck near the end of the sinny that tortures him scares the hell out of me.
damn are his glazzies creepy.

HeWhoMustNotBeNamed 11-09-2007 12:17 AM

love the film but haven't read the book so can't compare.
I thought the film was delicious, dark and light, the brutallity and beauty contrasting nicely. I love contridictions in my art, it adds a nice, meaty dimension to it.

BrandT_DisasteR 11-09-2007 06:16 PM

It was an amazing movie but the part when he sings the song "singing in the rain" and ***** that woman was almost sickening

dead souls 11-09-2007 06:21 PM

I agree with that.
I had to skip that part.:(

HeWhoMustNotBeNamed 11-09-2007 06:31 PM

it was a difficult bit to watch, true, but i made the effort becasue it completes the character and, though some have said it's simply there to shock, i think it forms a major and essential part of the story.

grauenacht 11-15-2007 10:31 PM

I myself, am a HUGE fan of A Clockwork Orange. It's probably my second favorite film, and the book is among my top 5 favorites. Personally, I believe the violence in both versions is crucial in conveying the message as well as evoking the proper emotions and reactions from the reader/viewer. The juxtaposition of art/intellectualism and violence that's so prevalent in the film has been an incredible influence on my own writings and drawings. And the socio-political commentary from the book is also amazing and inspirational.
I even went through a phase where I used Nadsat in everyday conversation. Good times.

Underwater Ophelia 11-16-2007 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by grauenacht
I even went through a phase where I used Nadsat in everyday conversation. Good times.

Hah, I did that.

Then I realized what an asshole I was being, lool.

Lapin 11-16-2007 08:36 AM

Honestly? I hate the book, so I've never watched the movie. I understand that it's supposed to be deep and political, but it's also boring. I got through a few pages before I started getting distracted.

I'll stick with Orwell and Bradbury. (1984 dragged a bit though)


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