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Lord Dagon 10-31-2005 10:27 AM

The Following Names..
 
Has anyone ever seen or read any of the following names in any book? If so, please let me know....

-Xerephis
-Mokar Zaiath
-Cerphon
-Laric
-Tontago
-Noftin
-Dagon
-Fallon
-Novak
-Lachdanon
-Abiel


There are plenty more, but I'll post them later. They're al characters I've made Biographies for...so if they've been used, I don't want to come off as a Name-Thief....heh...

tekajo 10-31-2005 12:46 PM

The best thing to do is go to google, yahoo, altavista, ask jeeves...pick one..and search for those names to see if they have been used....

TStone 10-31-2005 01:07 PM

You can't copyright a name or a title, that's a bit...stupid.

But I have seen Dagon (who hasn't) and Fallon, Abiel, and even Novak before.

But again, what does it matter?

Soul_Immortal 10-31-2005 01:22 PM

I have seen none of those name.

Lord Dagon 11-01-2005 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TStone
You can't copyright a name or a title, that's a bit...stupid.

But I have seen Dagon (who hasn't) and Fallon, Abiel, and even Novak before.

But again, what does it matter?

Really? The o nly way you could have seen them is if you've ever read any of my stuff, or if you went to two specific message boards....where did you hear them?
But, yeah, it is kind of stupid....we need someone to erase this thread...

Soul_Immortal 11-01-2005 07:17 AM

How did you come up with those names?

Lord Dagon 11-01-2005 07:19 AM

I'm working on a few novels currently, and have to make up names to use as characters....I'm creative, sort of...

ExistentialDisorder 11-01-2005 08:48 AM

Dagon was part of a name (either first or last, can't remember), of a character in a star wars novel. an imperial general, i do believe. novak and a few others sound familiar but i can't place them. but as long as you're not trying to recreate a character from other books, using deliberate similarities, then i don't see much problem. eventually names have to be repeated. it's how well a character is written that makes their name famous.

Lord Dagon 11-01-2005 08:55 AM

I wouldn't dream of ever stealing a character, that's why I posted these. Since there are so many different people here, I would know so much more on these names, and I've only taken one of the names; Laric. And so far goes Dagon, I got it from a dream...

ExistentialDisorder 11-01-2005 09:13 AM

Abiel: The son of Zeror and father of Ner, who was the grandfather of Saul (1 Sam. 14:51; 1 Chr. 8:33; 9:39). In 1 Sam. 9:1, he is called the "father," probably meaning the grandfather, of Kish.
http://www.christiananswers.net/dictionary/abiel.html

It appears that Dagon is also a work by H.P. Lovecraft. Don't know if its the name of an actual character of his or not.

Fallon: Jimmy Fallon - actor, Jennifer Fallon - author; also, a city in Nevada, something to do with London (an area perhaps).

Novak, Laric, Neftis - these have searches on google too. I'd suggest searching any names you want to use, if you want to know where and how they've been used before.

But I'll also add that it seems rather futile to keep changing names just because you find they're used somewhere else. If the name fits the character you're creating, then use it. Don't worry so much about whether or not its been used before.

TStone 11-01-2005 09:53 AM

Thanks, ED. I was getting a little frustrated with the inanity of this post; someone (anyone) thinking those particular letter had never been placed in that particular order, ever, in the whole history of the world…bah.

And this being a gothic site I figured everyone had heard of Dagon before.

But, the point is, a name does not define the bones in your bag. A name only provides recognition, a label, for your proverbial bag of bones, something people can easily identify once you’ve set the frame in place.

The idea that your names are so cool and original and never been used ever is…laughable. Now, if you put as much thought into actual character development…then that’s a different argument.

SO can we call this discussion quashed, and you just use the goddamn names you want, already?

Lord Dagon 11-01-2005 10:05 AM

Sure, I just realized that, now we need to get a mod and delete this post (preferably before it was created).

Jaye Jang 02-04-2008 05:39 AM

Dagon was the name of , I believe, the Philistine god of war. He was a fish-headed god.

Tam Li Hua 02-04-2008 07:23 AM

Dagon sounds familiar, but I don't know from what, and I think it's supposed to have a 'Lord' in front of it.

Maybe some demon god from Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion..?

$haDe 02-09-2008 08:46 AM

Abiel - A Seraphim angel(I presumed ... aka Abdiel)


Dagon - The Demon of Ocean

Aka : Dagan, Great Fish

Element/sin : god of vegetation, storm god, god of ocean.

Shape : an idol with the head and hands of a man and the tail of a fish, and as half-woman and half-fish.

Origin : Mesopotamia at Ur in 2500 BC. His cult was popular among the Assyrians. He probably began his existence as a Semitic god adopted by the Philistines after their invasion of Canaan.

Myths : When the Philistines placed the captured Ark in a temple of Dagon in Ashdod, before the statue of Dagon. The next morning they found the statue lying on its face on the temple floor. They set it upright again, but the morning after the statue was again lying face down on the floor, this time with its head and hands broken off. The Hebrews regarded this as a sign of the Ark's power (Samuel 5:1-7).

$haDe 02-09-2008 08:48 AM

It's not a name-thief.
The 2 I've just post is from Demonic Belief in Christitanity.

L'Oiseau Noir 02-09-2008 01:54 PM

I've heard Dagon before.

Mehrunes Dagon, the Daedra Prince of Destruction, from the Elder Scroll series. :D

Jaye Jang 02-18-2008 03:01 PM

Q: Lord Dagon, are you the same person who owns the website DagonBytes. If so, awesome website.

Tha Duckman 02-18-2008 03:05 PM

I went to school with Mokar Zaiath.

gothicusmaximus 02-18-2008 09:06 PM

Dagon was the marine great old one in Lovecraft's "The Shadow Over Innsmouth". Of course, using the name yourself isn't plagiarism per se, but if you're writing a tale involving horrors from the deep, your readers may find it a bit derivative.
None of the other names are familiar to me.

Cayca 02-19-2008 11:09 PM

Novak is rather popular name in my country (especially after Novak Djokovic won Australian Open) and we probably have many novel characters of that name.

dark_dragon_of_ice 02-19-2008 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L'Oiseau Noir
I've heard Dagon before.

Mehrunes Dagon, the Daedra Prince of Destruction, from the Elder Scroll series. :D

Dam you beat me.


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