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Originally Posted by An Eccentric Cellist
I fear for my generation's future observing the honors classes I'm in. God's above they are such dunderheads! I know the kids I'm around are getting stupider as the years pass by. Okay I'm stopping before I start ranting. I have ranted about this before, for ten minutes straight.
I like the idea of having an ape as a mascot. Can it be a Silverbacked Gorilla?
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EC, I'm with you on the Silverbacked Gorilla! That would definitely RAWK!
In respect to your comment and the thread subject, I'm afraid our society in general is affluent enough that it now induces laziness in many forms. This is a cycle all civilizations go through in their evolutionary growth, and now we're on (what I beleive is) the downhill side if this one. People are given comfort and sustenance with very little effort. When things cost little, they are prized little. More and more people expect a handout without thinking they should be responsible for bettering themselves. This translates to poorer educational acheivements, declining communication skills and a general "dumbing-down" of the population.
And by the way, I hold no great stock in IQ or intelligence. I've tested highly, and could probably go claim my MENSA card any time I wanted. But that is meaningless to me. Because I have seen a lot of very intelligent (some even college educated) people do some dumb-ass stuff. And I have seen a grade-school janitor exhibit the wisdom of Solomon. Yee gods! I knew a woman once who was in her late fifties, had cystic fibrosis and had to walk with leg braces and canes everywhere she went, and would not have been considered highly intelligent by those who met her. But oh man, was she wise ... wise beyond all belief. I was a better person just for knowing her that all too brief a time.
Intelligence is overrated. Give me someone with wisdom and grace anytime ... although those qualities are in increasingly short supply as well. Just look at our politicians! *cough*
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Originally Posted by Disfunction
They are not actually distinct, and I don't know where you would have gotten that impression. In fact, ADD is the earlier name for the same disorder. The hyperactive was added and now the name is applicable as "Attention Deficit Hyperactive Disorder without Hyperactivity". At least that's what the psychologists/psychiatrists I've spoken to about it have told me. The concept is that while the disorder does impact learning, that it is a developmental/behavioural disorder that impacts more than just one's ability to learn and is not classified in the psychological community as a learning disability for that very reason.
I don't have any idea as to why you're of the impression that they are not the same thing and are actually very different.
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Actually,
Dis, I have been clinically diagnosed with
ADD twice, by two different psychiatrists. In probing both of them for information, I learned that there is still a lot of disinformation about the subject. And yes, the sources I have referenced (both personal contact and online), including
www.psych.org, originally referred to ADHD and ADD as two separate, but related conditions. ADD was coined when it was realized that there were some people who exhibited some but not all of the same symptoms, without the hyperactivity. Here's the timeline, from
this article from about.com:
1980 - The current name "Attention Deficit Disorder +/-" was given in the DSM III by the American Psychiatric Association. ADHD and ADD were separate diagnosis.
1987 - The APA renamed the disorder Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.
My doctors have always called my condition ADD, citing that the mention of hyperactivity in some cases like mine is not relevant. I agree with them, but that's certainly not a clinical opinion.
I'll not gainsay what your psychologists/psychiatrists have said to you, but I will say that there is room under the big umbrella of psychoilogy today for it to be classified as a learning disorder, especially if that lets some people get the help they need. That's not to say I support abusing the diagnosis or using it as a crutch or an excuse. Just my opinion.